Do you hate Tony Blair?

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Do you hate Tony Blair?

Yes, I hate him.
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39%
No, I dislike him, but below the hate level.
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30%
No, I'm neutral, neither hate, dislike, like or love him.
3
13%
No, I like him alright.
4
17%
No, I love him - best Prime Minister Evah!
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Re: Do you hate Tony Blair?

Post by Posse Comitatus » Sat Sep 04, 2010 10:40 pm

Pappa wrote: He was given an incredibly easy ride in those hearings. In general people were amazed here that he wasn't given a grilling at all.
In general no one was paying any attention at all. Ask the vast majority of people what the word Chilcot means to them and the most you're likely to get in a shrug.

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Re: Do you hate Tony Blair?

Post by owtth » Sat Sep 04, 2010 10:42 pm

Posse Comitatus wrote:Oh you knew some iraqis once did you? Lovely. Gives your views on the matter such authority.

What authority would you like to refer to ? Are you seriously of the opinion that Iraq is a better place now than it was before the invasion, because every opinion that has the slightest experience would suggest otherwise?
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Re: Do you hate Tony Blair?

Post by Tigger » Sat Sep 04, 2010 10:43 pm

Posse Comitatus wrote:
Tigger wrote: Wow. In my opinion he was one of the worst public speakers I've ever come across. Maybe because here in the UK we got all of the shit he puked out without filters, but his hesitant speech, umming and erring all the fucking time was cringe-worthy. And, he's a cunt. Did I say that already?



These both work rather nicely.
They might work for you - I don't intend to listen to the fucker ever again, no matter what you find retrospectively to support your misconceptions - and you are, after all, very young. /patronise
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Re: Do you hate Tony Blair?

Post by Posse Comitatus » Sat Sep 04, 2010 10:44 pm

owtth wrote:
Posse Comitatus wrote:Oh you knew some iraqis once did you? Lovely. Gives your views on the matter such authority.

What authority would you like to refer to ? Are you seriously of the opinion that Iraq is a better place now than it was before the invasion, because every opinion that has the slightest experience would suggest otherwise?
The world will be a better and safer place post-Iraq. Probably. Saddam was a bit evil- like at least an 8/10.

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Re: Do you hate Tony Blair?

Post by Posse Comitatus » Sat Sep 04, 2010 10:46 pm

he's also really rather pretty.

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Re: Do you hate Tony Blair?

Post by Tigger » Sat Sep 04, 2010 10:47 pm

Posse Comitatus wrote:
owtth wrote:
Posse Comitatus wrote:Oh you knew some iraqis once did you? Lovely. Gives your views on the matter such authority.

What authority would you like to refer to ? Are you seriously of the opinion that Iraq is a better place now than it was before the invasion, because every opinion that has the slightest experience would suggest otherwise?
The world will be a better and safer place post-Iraq. Probably. Saddam was a bit evil- like at least an 8/10.
Bulllshit. He posed no threat to the world. More UK citizens have died because of Bliar than Hussein could have achieved with his scuds inter alia.
Posse Comitatus wrote: he's also really rather pretty.
Serious thread is serious. :mod:
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Re: Do you hate Tony Blair?

Post by owtth » Sat Sep 04, 2010 10:49 pm

Posse Comitatus wrote:The world will be a better and safer place post-Iraq. Probably. Saddam was a bit evil- like at least an 8/10.
Yes Saddam was evil, yes he started wars without just cause, yes he had certain religious beliefs that are ridiculous to a rational person, yes he entered into unjust pacts with countries who could not be trusted to behave honourably. Is all this ringing a fucking bell or are you that dense?
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Re: Do you hate Tony Blair?

Post by beige » Sat Sep 04, 2010 10:50 pm

Posse Comitatus wrote:The world will be a better and safer place post-Iraq.
:funny:

Oh wait... were you actually being serious?
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Re: Do you hate Tony Blair?

Post by Posse Comitatus » Sat Sep 04, 2010 10:52 pm

Tigger wrote:
They might work for you - I don't intend to listen to the fucker ever again, no matter what you find retrospectively to support your misconceptions - and you are, after all, very young. /patronise
Me being young means what exactly? I grew up under New Labour. I was at least partially lucid from the start of the project to it's conclusion.
Bulllshit. He posed no threat to the world. More UK citizens have died because of Bliar than Hussein could have achieved with his scuds inter alia.
I really don't care if they were British or otherwise. Also saying he poses no threat to the world is just ludicrous- particularly if we're counting his own citizens (and esp. the Kurds).
Serious thread is serious
And? He's seriously pretty. The issue debated is whether I hate Tony Blair and why that might or might not be the case. I don't hate him precisely because, at least in part, I think he's pretty. Ergo relevance.

Oh and people trotting out the same supercilious pejorative nonsense ("He's a liar", "He's a cunt" etc) hardly makes for a credibly serious thread in and of itself- certainly no less so than comments of the opposite but ultimately equally insubstantial nature ("he's very pretty" etc)

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Re: Do you hate Tony Blair?

Post by Posse Comitatus » Sat Sep 04, 2010 10:54 pm

owtth wrote:
Posse Comitatus wrote:The world will be a better and safer place post-Iraq. Probably. Saddam was a bit evil- like at least an 8/10.
Yes Saddam was evil, yes he started wars without just cause, yes he had certain religious beliefs that are ridiculous to a rational person, yes he entered into unjust pacts with countries who could not be trusted to behave honourably. Is all this ringing a fucking bell or are you that dense?
Not really, no. I'm guessing however that you're attempting to create a point of comparison between Blair and Saddam, which is just precious.

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Re: Do you hate Tony Blair?

Post by Tigger » Sat Sep 04, 2010 11:02 pm

Posse Comitatus wrote:
Tigger wrote:
They might work for you - I don't intend to listen to the fucker ever again, no matter what you find retrospectively to support your misconceptions - and you are, after all, very young. /patronise
Me being young means what exactly? I grew up under New Labour. I was at least partially lucid from the start of the project to it's conclusion.
Bulllshit. He posed no threat to the world. More UK citizens have died because of Bliar than Hussein could have achieved with his scuds inter alia.
I really don't care if they were British or otherwise. Also saying he poses no threat to the world is just ludicrous- particularly if we're counting his own citizens (and esp. the Kurds).
Serious thread is serious
And? He's seriously pretty. The issue debated is whether I hate Tony Blair and why that might or might not be the case. I don't hate him precisely because, at least in part, I think he's pretty. Ergo relevance.

Oh and people trotting out the same supercilious pejorative nonsense ("He's a liar", "He's a cunt" etc) hardly makes for a credibly serious thread in and of itself- certainly no less so than comments of the opposite but ultimately equally insubstantial nature ("he's very pretty" etc)
Education policy fail :read: *snork*
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Re: Do you hate Tony Blair?

Post by owtth » Sat Sep 04, 2010 11:03 pm

So your response is "that's precious"? Glad to see I'm debating on the level of a Barbie doll. At least I'm not wasting my time on something frivolous. If you don't care about something please say so up front, don't lull people into a discussion about which you have no opinion.
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Re: Do you hate Tony Blair?

Post by Posse Comitatus » Sat Sep 04, 2010 11:05 pm

owtth wrote:So your response is "that's precious"? Glad to see I'm debating on the level of a Barbie doll. At least I'm not wasting my time on something frivolous. If you don't care about something please say so up front, don't lull people into a discussion about which you have no opinion.
Oh I do have an opinion, it's just that my opinion is that he's amazing. And good shout on the level of debate here- but the reality is my offerings have been no less substantive than yours or indeed pretty much anyone else's from the anti-Blair camp. The only difference is you don't quite agree with what I'm saying.

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Re: Do you hate Tony Blair?

Post by Posse Comitatus » Sat Sep 04, 2010 11:05 pm

owtth wrote:So your response is "that's precious"? Glad to see I'm debating on the level of a Barbie doll. At least I'm not wasting my time on something frivolous. If you don't care about something please say so up front, don't lull people into a discussion about which you have no opinion.
Oh I do have an opinion, it's just that my opinion is that he's amazing. And good shout on the level of debate here- but the reality is my offerings have been no less substantive than yours or indeed pretty much anyone else's from the anti-Blair camp. The only difference is you don't quite agree with what I'm saying.

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Re: Do you hate Tony Blair?

Post by Tigger » Sat Sep 04, 2010 11:06 pm

Politicians repeat themselves too, when they don't want to listen. *snork* again
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