Hawking announces god not needed to create the universe

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Re: Hawking announces god not needed to create the universe

Post by Tero » Thu Sep 02, 2010 9:43 pm

Animavore, I can summarize these books for you. When you look at STUFF on really small or large scale, everything goes weird. Time and all that shit is stretchy and the universe is stretchy and odd shaped and you are at the center of it all points. Better to go back to thinking of atoms as the solid models in the atomic model set from college. Sticks for bonds.

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Post by Animavore » Thu Sep 02, 2010 9:51 pm

Well I have read other books on the same topic. Brian Greene is rally good. I'm not sure if hawking is all there any more. All that dodgy speculation on aliens and his recent crap fest on The History Channel is kinda putting me off any new books.
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Post by Tero » Thu Sep 02, 2010 10:05 pm

I think we are too interested in all this mystery stuff. I like to read Heinrich books for light science reading.

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Re: Hawking announces god not needed to create the universe

Post by Pappa » Thu Sep 02, 2010 11:38 pm

klr wrote:BBC Newsnight is going to have a feature on this in about 30 minutes or so.

A physicist-minister is going to be the chief interviewee. :roll:
Fuck... missed it.
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Re: Hawking announces god not needed to create the universe

Post by Randydeluxe » Fri Sep 03, 2010 1:26 am

That makes this a fun time to read FreeRepublic.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2582013/posts

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Randydeluxe wrote:That makes this a fun time to read FreeRepublic.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2582013/posts
at least they are all consistent

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Post by Mr P » Fri Sep 03, 2010 3:44 am

Randydeluxe wrote:That makes this a fun time to read FreeRepublic.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2582013/posts
I managed 5 posts before closing the window :banghead:

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Re: Hawking announces god not needed to create the universe

Post by Mr P » Fri Sep 03, 2010 4:51 am

Ray Cumfuck's at it again, from here :http://www.christiannewswire.com/news/2977814861.html
Comfort, said, "It is embarrassingly unscientific to speak of anything creating itself from nothing. Common sense says that if something possessed the ability to create itself from nothing, then that something wasn't nothing, it was something -- a very intelligent creative power of some sort."

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Re: Hawking announces god not needed to create the universe

Post by Bolero » Fri Sep 03, 2010 6:07 am

I was moved to tears upon hearing news of this on the radio driving in to work this morning, so despite some people's misgivings, I'm just glad there are credible people like Hawking out there saying there's no (need for) god.

It's made the churches and theists go into severe damage control mode ... maybe the odd person wavering in their "faith" will just go "Fuck it, that wheelchair guy's right."
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Post by Tero » Fri Sep 03, 2010 11:59 am

Mr P wrote:Ray Cumfuck's at it again, from here :http://www.christiannewswire.com/news/2977814861.html
Comfort, said, "It is embarrassingly unscientific to speak of anything creating itself from nothing. Common sense says that if something possessed the ability to create itself from nothing, then that something wasn't nothing, it was something -- a very intelligent creative power of some sort."
I knew it, common sense would pop up. Common sense is OK for watching farm animals reproduce etc.

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Re: Hawking announces god not needed to create the universe

Post by Horwood Beer-Master » Fri Sep 03, 2010 12:49 pm

klr wrote:BBC Newsnight is going to have a feature on this in about 30 minutes or so.

A physicist-minister is going to be the chief interviewee. :roll:
Of course - we must have "balance" after all. :roll:

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Re: Hawking announces god not needed to create the universe

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Tero wrote:
Mr P wrote:Ray Cumfuck's at it again, from here :http://www.christiannewswire.com/news/2977814861.html
Comfort, said, "It is embarrassingly unscientific to speak of anything creating itself from nothing. Common sense says that if something possessed the ability to create itself from nothing, then that something wasn't nothing, it was something -- a very intelligent creative power of some sort."
I knew it, common sense would pop up. Common sense is OK for watching farm animals reproduce etc.
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Re: Hawking announces god not needed to create the universe

Post by Pappa » Fri Sep 03, 2010 3:25 pm

Common sense says goddidit. Stands to reason, dunnit?
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Re: Hawking announces god not needed to create the universe

Post by Tero » Fri Sep 03, 2010 6:37 pm

OK I have covered the topic in my news. You may quote me.
http://teroreport.blogspot.com/2010/09/ ... d-god.html

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Re: Hawking announces god not needed to create the universe

Post by A Monkey Shaved » Sat Sep 04, 2010 3:22 am

IMHO it would require divine intervention to stop the universe from ever happening and not create it due to the inherent property of the extreme instability of pristine nothingness. It is why the universe is something rather than nothing because there was nothing to prevent everything from happening, period. Well, it makes more sense to me or at least better than some convoluted string theory of divine intervention.
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