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Re: Things that bands have done that make you MAD

Post by Gallstones » Thu Sep 02, 2010 6:01 am

The Mad Hatter wrote:Which came first, the band or the fans? Who made the music that the fans think they have right to dictate direction over?
I don't think I have a right to dictate what a band produces. If I like it I listen and buy, if I don't I don't.

The band came first but is not sustained without the fans.
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Post by Trolldor » Thu Sep 02, 2010 6:20 am

It's not sustained without money either.
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Re: Things that bands have done that make you MAD

Post by Gallstones » Thu Sep 02, 2010 7:11 am

The Mad Hatter wrote:It's not sustained without money either.
Right, but the money comes from the fans.

Bands are entertainers. Entertainers, to make a living doing that, require a paying audience. An audience does not buy tickets or cds or merchandising (T shirts) if they don't like the music.
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Post by Trolldor » Thu Sep 02, 2010 7:12 am

1. Not, it doesn't just come from the fans.
2. They will still have fans if their music is reaching a wider audience. In fact, they will have more fans.
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Re: Things that bands have done that make you MAD

Post by Robert_S » Thu Sep 02, 2010 8:04 am

Selling out is abandoning one fan base to attract a larger, more lucrative one. There are artists that do not do this and still achieve commercial success. There are artists that do this and either fail utterly because they misread the market or they gain some short term success and then fizzle out after one or two hits.

There are also artists who spend their lives playing what they want to play, how they want to play it for a small but loyal fan base and still making a decent living at it. Some of these artists I like a lot. I'll buy their CDs, even if I've already downloaded them, and come out to see them when they come through the area, often dragging my friends with me.

They'll probably never be millionaires, but they'll be ok with the material that they're playing.
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Post by Pappa » Thu Sep 02, 2010 9:01 am

Feck wrote:Sell out , release country and western albums ,get coke habits , turn right wing , sue Napster release shit albums with orchestras and pretend nobody had ever done it before.
Are you talking about Metallica? :hehe:
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Pappa wrote:
Feck wrote:Sell out , release country and western albums ,get coke habits , turn right wing , sue Napster release shit albums with orchestras and pretend nobody had ever done it before.
Are you talking about Metallica? :hehe:
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Re: Things that bands have done that make you MAD

Post by Feck » Thu Sep 02, 2010 11:34 am

Normal wrote:
Pappa wrote:
Feck wrote:Sell out , release country and western albums ,get coke habits , turn right wing , sue Napster release shit albums with orchestras and pretend nobody had ever done it before.
Are you talking about Metallica? :hehe:
What made you think that!?
I cut the rant short ,I didn't mention their full list of lies and u-turns ..It might not be long before they are playing republican party gigs !
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Re: Things that bands have done that make you MAD

Post by leo-rcc » Thu Sep 02, 2010 11:36 am

Become an airline pilot. :lay:
well not really, I just wanted to have this thread in egosearch.
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Re: Things that bands have done that make you MAD

Post by leo-rcc » Thu Sep 02, 2010 11:37 am

btw, Metallica did not sell out, they stayed true to their goals since day one, which was to make money.
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Re: Things that bands have done that make you MAD

Post by Feck » Thu Sep 02, 2010 11:45 am

leo-rcc wrote:btw, Metallica did not sell out, they stayed true to their goals since day one, which was to make money.
I know that NOW :cry: :cry: :cry:
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Re: Things that bands have done that make you MAD

Post by Pappa » Thu Sep 02, 2010 2:40 pm

Hit rock bottom and find God. :nono:
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Religion poisons everything :nono:
Libertarianism: The belief that out of all the terrible things governments can do, helping people is the absolute worst.
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Re: Things that bands have done that make you MAD

Post by Robert_S » Wed Aug 03, 2011 9:28 am

leo-rcc wrote:Become an airline pilot. :lay:
well not really, I just wanted to have this thread in egosearch.
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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