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Re: Bitch throws puppies into river

Post by Feck » Thu Sep 02, 2010 10:24 am

Cunt wrote:The flamethrower would be a good method if you wanted to torture.

Tossing them into the river is pretty fast.

RuleBritannia, do they not sell rat and pigeon poison where you live? Are you sure breakink the neck is quicker/less painful?

They sell rat poison but not pigeon poison , that would be illegal .And yes I'm sure that a broken neck or decapitation or massive blunt trauma to the head is quicker than drowning . And I I were to have to kill a litter of pups I wouldn't film myself happily throwing them in a river without conscience and with apparent amusement and post it on Youtube .
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Re: Bitch throws puppies into river

Post by charlou » Thu Sep 02, 2010 1:08 pm

Cunt wrote:The flamethrower would be a good method if you wanted to torture.

Tossing them into the river is pretty fast.

RuleBritannia, do they not sell rat and pigeon poison where you live? Are you sure breakink the neck is quicker/less painful?
I think tossing them into a river may be quicker and less painful than bludgeoning or neck breaking ... for the person doing the deed. If we're going to discuss the best way to dispose of unwanted litters, I think how the person who must do it feels is a valid consideration, too. It's unfortunate that euthenasing by injection isn't always an option, though. Even then, there's a person who must do the deed. Not an easy one.
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Re: Bitch throws puppies into river

Post by devogue » Thu Sep 02, 2010 1:11 pm

I still think that tossing puppies in to a river is wrong.

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Post by Feck » Thu Sep 02, 2010 1:16 pm

devogue wrote:I still think that tossing puppies in to a river is wrong.
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Re: Bitch throws puppies into river

Post by Cunt » Thu Sep 02, 2010 1:18 pm

Feck wrote:
Cunt wrote:The flamethrower would be a good method if you wanted to torture.

Tossing them into the river is pretty fast.

RuleBritannia, do they not sell rat and pigeon poison where you live? Are you sure breakink the neck is quicker/less painful?

They sell rat poison but not pigeon poison , that would be illegal .And yes I'm sure that a broken neck or decapitation or massive blunt trauma to the head is quicker than drowning . And I I were to have to kill a litter of pups I wouldn't film myself happily throwing them in a river without conscience and with apparent amusement and post it on Youtube .
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The above ass filmed a rat dying slowly to promote his political agenda. Maby we should find his 'dox' and fuck his shit up. [/sarcasm]
There are many companies selling these torture devices...doing WAY more torture than a bucket of drowned puppies.

How about some perspective?
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Re: Bitch throws puppies into river

Post by charlou » Thu Sep 02, 2010 1:23 pm

devogue wrote:I still think that tossing puppies in to a river is wrong.
So do I, but I also eat meat so I'm in no position to claim any high ground. :(
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Re: Bitch throws puppies into river

Post by Cunt » Thu Sep 02, 2010 1:46 pm

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devogue wrote:I still think that tossing puppies in to a river is wrong.
So do I, but I also eat meat so I'm in no position to claim any high ground. :(
Don't feel so bad, my friend. Even those who go vegan are not able to 'claim any high ground' (though many pretentious assholes do just that). We eat life. If we are as good as we can be, we aim for less suffering, but many just buy products or use services without a thought to what or who had to die to provide it.

I try to minimize suffering where I am able to have a reasonable effect. I think that's the best we can expect.

Organizations like ALF lay guilt trips, sometimes effectively, but look at what they really are - a perfect excuse for people to vandalize anything they wish and later say it was because the victim was exploiting animals. Without any accountability. (does that ever remind me of religion!)

Fuck - who ISN'T exploiting animals?
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Post by Tero » Thu Sep 02, 2010 2:16 pm

Lozzer wrote: I think their fins may have been lacking and the odds of fighting the current were very minimal.
One can only hope it was a quick end.

There are millions of puppies abandoned every year, also kittens. Some small fraction will find homes.

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Re: Bitch throws puppies into river

Post by Feck » Thu Sep 02, 2010 2:49 pm

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Cunt wrote:The flamethrower would be a good method if you wanted to torture.

Tossing them into the river is pretty fast.

RuleBritannia, do they not sell rat and pigeon poison where you live? Are you sure breakink the neck is quicker/less painful?

They sell rat poison but not pigeon poison , that would be illegal .And yes I'm sure that a broken neck or decapitation or massive blunt trauma to the head is quicker than drowning . And I I were to have to kill a litter of pups I wouldn't film myself happily throwing them in a river without conscience and with apparent amusement and post it on Youtube .
Trigger Warning!!!1! :
The above ass filmed a rat dying slowly to promote his political agenda. Maby we should find his 'dox' and fuck his shit up. [/sarcasm]
There are many companies selling these torture devices...doing WAY more torture than a bucket of drowned puppies.

How about some perspective?
Since when did one cruel thing make another one less cruel ? and yes I know all about glue boards ,I refused to use them when I did that job and BTW I refused to drown live animals in traps even if they were 'vermin' .
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Re: Bitch throws puppies into river

Post by Cunt » Thu Sep 02, 2010 3:09 pm

Feck wrote:
Cunt wrote:How about some perspective?
Since when did one cruel thing make another one less cruel ? and yes I know all about glue boards ,I refused to use them when I did that job and BTW I refused to drown live animals in traps even if they were 'vermin' .
I think no matter what you do it's pretty fucking awful (for the victim). I try to make it quick when it is my responsibility but I don't delude myself that it is in any way nice.
I also think about how much better I do than most non-human animals when it comes to killing. I do a lot better. This young girl did a lot better.

I wonder how many folks who got their knickers in a twist over the 'poor puppies' did so after a breakfast of eggs? Do you think they have inspected the facility where the eggs are produced in an effort to make sure there was no poultry torture?

There is something unsettling about getting together to hate. Especially when someone tries to direct it at an individual like this young girl.
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Re: Bitch throws puppies into river

Post by maiforpeace » Thu Sep 02, 2010 3:37 pm

Regarding taking the animal to the vet being a cowardly act - except for some insects when I was a child, I have no experience killing anything. I could make a mess of it by trying to slit it's throat, shoot it or drop an anvil on it's head, so it is more humane to take it where you know it will be killed by someone who has some experience doing so.
Cunt wrote:I wonder how many folks who got their knickers in a twist over the 'poor puppies' did so after a breakfast of eggs? Do you think they have inspected the facility where the eggs are produced in an effort to make sure there was no poultry torture?
You don't even need to inspect these facilities to know that torture exists there. When it comes to how factory farmed meat, eggs and dairy are produced most people are in denial. So yes, I agree, it's a bit hypocritical to claim such outrage over the drowning of a puppy as long as you are consuming those products.
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Post by Trolldor » Thu Sep 02, 2010 3:51 pm

Tell you what, you show me someone who knowingly purchases meat from a company linked to the maltreatment of animals and who outraged over this clip I'll show you a hypocrite. But unless you know, no there's no hypocrisy involved because not all companies mistreat animals, and very likely you won't know unless you're willing to do some travelling and backtracking.

Now, if you'll excuse me I'm going to keep being infuriated by this whole thing.
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Re: Bitch throws puppies into river

Post by Cunt » Thu Sep 02, 2010 4:04 pm

maiforpeace wrote:Regarding taking the animal to the vet being a cowardly act - except for some insects when I was a child, I have no experience killing anything. I could make a mess of it by trying to slit it's throat, shoot it or drop an anvil on it's head, so it is more humane to take it where you know it will be killed by someone who has some experience doing so.
Got me.
Ya, you are correct, of course. (I took the last animal to the vet myself and felt a bit like I was shirking a responsibility - not to excuse it but to explain how I got there)
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Cunt wrote:I wonder how many folks who got their knickers in a twist over the 'poor puppies' did so after a breakfast of eggs? Do you think they have inspected the facility where the eggs are produced in an effort to make sure there was no poultry torture?
You don't even need to inspect these facilities to know that torture exists there. When it comes to how factory farmed meat, eggs and dairy are produced most people are in denial. So yes, I agree, it's a bit hypocritical to claim such outrage over the drowning of a puppy as long as you are consuming those products.
I guess the main point I was making is that when you take a step back, this girl was doing very little torture relative to what I do (being a meat-eater and even killing some of it myself) But even so, her 'dox' are posted in what looks like an effort to have some hate directed at her for her act.

I don't suggest they come down - I already asked Lozzer once and he can say what he wants. Leave it up as long as he wants. I do wish he would edit it to add his own contact info, though. :biggrin:
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Re: Bitch throws puppies into river

Post by maiforpeace » Thu Sep 02, 2010 4:59 pm

The Mad Hatter wrote:Tell you what, you show me someone who knowingly purchases meat from a company linked to the maltreatment of animals and who outraged over this clip I'll show you a hypocrite. But unless you know, no there's no hypocrisy involved because not all companies mistreat animals, and very likely you won't know unless you're willing to do some travelling and backtracking.

Now, if you'll excuse me I'm going to keep being infuriated by this whole thing.
I'm not saying ALL companies that produce these products are inhumane - but I am saying that MOST 'factory farmed' methods are inhumane. Here in the US, 99% of products produced from animals are produced through factory farmed methods.
To your second statement about travelling and backtracking - I would challenge you to try to get a tour of a plant that produces factory farmed animal products. Unlike companies that produce products not made from animals, the meat industry has, over and over again refused to give the public a tour of their production facilities. Most of what we have learned about what really goes on in those plants have been from people infiltrating them illegally, or by accounts from people who used to work there. The beef, pork and poultry lobby is as powerful as the oil one.

If the public really knew what went on at factory farms, then I feel certain people would eat less animal products than they do now, and/or make a more concerted effort to buy products from more humanely produced methods.
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Post by Thinking Aloud » Thu Sep 02, 2010 5:08 pm

Cunt wrote:There is something unsettling about getting together to hate. Especially when someone tries to direct it at an individual like this young girl.
Very unsettling.

Even more so when it's directed at the wrong young girl, as may well be the case with the published name and address.

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