Why I love America

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Re: Why I love America

Post by Robert_S » Wed Sep 01, 2010 4:00 pm

LaMont Cranston wrote:mai, Actually, I do the best that I can to stay on the "proper" side of the line when it comes to being a dirty old man. I've seen enough old horndogs make fools of themselves by fawning over young women, as if they had a chance of getting some. I've also been around enough women who have let me know how they feel when some old fart with a few drinks in him carries on like that, and they think that kind of behavior is repulsive. So do I.

I really like women; I think women are great! I think it's wonderful to appreciate their beauty, humor and everything else, and, if they're willing, there's nothing wrong with flirting and sexual innuendo. However, thinking it's going to go beyond that is what makes those "dirty old men" types look stupid.

PS: I still think she would look cute in a cheerleader's outfit. Maybe she could be cheering for an end to football.
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Re: Why I love America

Post by sandinista » Wed Sep 01, 2010 7:36 pm

Seraph wrote:
sandinista wrote:
Seraph wrote:
jd wrote:An elected head of state
That is certainly preferable to people claiming to rule by divine right and other dictators. On the downside, the US electorate chose Ronald Reagan. Twice!
I'm not even sure if I would say it's preferable to a "dictator". It's still a essentially a dictatorship, only instead of one party/one person its two parties with the same ideology. Reagan TWICE AND Bush TWICE!
Are you serious? I would definitely prefer to live under Reagan, Bush, rather than Pinochet, Franco, Mussolini, Stalin, Hitler or Ulbricht.
You're just naming individual leaders. It's not a "rather this or that" situation. Just saying that the US has a dictatorship in place, only it happens to be a corporate dictatorship.
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Re: Why I love America

Post by LaMont Cranston » Wed Sep 01, 2010 8:08 pm

sandinista, I've been thinking about that thing you wrote about how commie political types do more than read and spout stuff about how the workers of the world are going to get their shit together. I realized that a huge part of the problem that communists have had is all about image. I mean, everybody thinks that commies are all about working your asses off in the field and lugging around 200 bags of potatoes.

Speaking of 200 bags of potatoes (dressed in coveralls), why don't we talke about Russian women? I mean, not only did the commies have the image of being very little fun, the only Russian women you ever saw looked liked they could bench press a truck. Even if those leftist women wanted to fuck, why would anybody care?

Now that capitalism has made such inroads into the former Soviet Union, we get to see a lot of hot Russian babes. Talk about an improvement!

Maybe you and some of your "better red than dead" friends could hire one of those capitalist advertising agenices on Madison Avenue to do an image makeover on communism. Think about it while you're putting down that next shot of tequila...

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Re: Why I love America

Post by sandinista » Wed Sep 01, 2010 8:19 pm

no makeover required. I just thought of that while smoking some sticky sticky. :smoke:
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Re: Why I love America

Post by Trolldor » Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:48 pm

sandinista wrote:
Seraph wrote:
sandinista wrote:
Seraph wrote:
jd wrote:An elected head of state
That is certainly preferable to people claiming to rule by divine right and other dictators. On the downside, the US electorate chose Ronald Reagan. Twice!
I'm not even sure if I would say it's preferable to a "dictator". It's still a essentially a dictatorship, only instead of one party/one person its two parties with the same ideology. Reagan TWICE AND Bush TWICE!
Are you serious? I would definitely prefer to live under Reagan, Bush, rather than Pinochet, Franco, Mussolini, Stalin, Hitler or Ulbricht.
You're just naming individual leaders. It's not a "rather this or that" situation. Just saying that the US has a dictatorship in place, only it happens to be a corporate dictatorship.
A corporate dictatorship? So which single corporation rules the US?
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Re: Why I love America

Post by Don't Panic » Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:52 pm

The Mad Hatter wrote:
sandinista wrote:
Seraph wrote:
sandinista wrote:
Seraph wrote:That is certainly preferable to people claiming to rule by divine right and other dictators. On the downside, the US electorate chose Ronald Reagan. Twice!
I'm not even sure if I would say it's preferable to a "dictator". It's still a essentially a dictatorship, only instead of one party/one person its two parties with the same ideology. Reagan TWICE AND Bush TWICE!
Are you serious? I would definitely prefer to live under Reagan, Bush, rather than Pinochet, Franco, Mussolini, Stalin, Hitler or Ulbricht.
You're just naming individual leaders. It's not a "rather this or that" situation. Just saying that the US has a dictatorship in place, only it happens to be a corporate dictatorship.
A corporate dictatorship? So which single corporation rules the US?
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Re: Why I love America

Post by Twoflower » Wed Sep 01, 2010 9:53 pm

LaMont Cranston wrote:mai, Actually, I do the best that I can to stay on the "proper" side of the line when it comes to being a dirty old man. I've seen enough old horndogs make fools of themselves by fawning over young women, as if they had a chance of getting some. I've also been around enough women who have let me know how they feel when some old fart with a few drinks in him carries on like that, and they think that kind of behavior is repulsive. So do I.

I really like women; I think women are great! I think it's wonderful to appreciate their beauty, humor and everything else, and, if they're willing, there's nothing wrong with flirting and sexual innuendo. However, thinking it's going to go beyond that is what makes those "dirty old men" types look stupid.

PS: I still think she would look cute in a cheerleader's outfit. Maybe she could be cheering for an end to football.
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And dragged away and thrown away
And then one day it turns to clay
It blows away, it finds a ray, it finds its way
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Re: Why I love America

Post by Robert_S » Wed Sep 01, 2010 10:35 pm

Twoflower wrote:
LaMont Cranston wrote:mai, Actually, I do the best that I can to stay on the "proper" side of the line when it comes to being a dirty old man. I've seen enough old horndogs make fools of themselves by fawning over young women, as if they had a chance of getting some. I've also been around enough women who have let me know how they feel when some old fart with a few drinks in him carries on like that, and they think that kind of behavior is repulsive. So do I.

I really like women; I think women are great! I think it's wonderful to appreciate their beauty, humor and everything else, and, if they're willing, there's nothing wrong with flirting and sexual innuendo. However, thinking it's going to go beyond that is what makes those "dirty old men" types look stupid.

PS: I still think she would look cute in a cheerleader's outfit. Maybe she could be cheering for an end to football.
You have crossed the line, stop now. :ddpan:
And you're this far from being reported for a group attack... on the dirty old men who's ranks I shall one day join! :lay:
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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Re: Why I love America

Post by LaMont Cranston » Thu Sep 02, 2010 12:49 am

Robert S, Actually, if a lady says "stop now" or "enough" or something like that, I think that her request should be honored. I'm done, or as they say in Hawaii, "all pau," with that. See you around...

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Re: Why I love America

Post by Trolldor » Thu Sep 02, 2010 12:50 am

Yeah, she only had to say it twice.
"The fact is that far more crime and child abuse has been committed by zealots in the name of God, Jesus and Mohammed than has ever been committed in the name of Satan. Many people don't like that statement but few can argue with it."

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Re: Why I love America

Post by Robert_S » Thu Sep 02, 2010 1:05 am

LaMont Cranston wrote:Robert S, Actually, if a lady says "stop now" or "enough" or something like that, I think that her request should be honored. I'm done, or as they say in Hawaii, "all pau," with that. See you around...
That's got nothing to do with age.
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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Re: Why I love America

Post by LaMont Cranston » Thu Sep 02, 2010 1:16 am

Robert S., That is absolutely correct!

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Re: Why I love America

Post by LaMont Cranston » Thu Sep 02, 2010 1:17 am

The Mad Hatter, Well, Sport, at least we know that you can count all the way to two...

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Re: Why I love America

Post by Trolldor » Thu Sep 02, 2010 1:19 am

You should hear all the numbers that have come about since your last jog in to mathematics.
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Re: Why I love America

Post by hadespussercats » Thu Sep 02, 2010 4:39 am

Let's see... things that make me proud or happy to be an American:
plasma
the yellow fever vaccine
lightbulbs
the telephone
sewing machines
recording technology
movies
Groucho and Harpo Marx
the Coen brothers
Marilyn Monroe
Katherine Hepburn
animation
cranberry juice
blueberries, in pies or otherwise
popcorn
cigarettes (not proud, but happy)
Jesseye Norman
John Coltrane
Nina Simone
Johnny Cash
Ani DiFranco
John Singer Sargeant
Maxfield Parrish
personal computers
Acadia National Park
Cape Cod
Santa Fe
canyon country
Yosemite
The Muir Woods
New York City
The Berkshires
Boston
Mark Twain
David Sedaris
Sarah Vowell
Diana Gabaldon
Langston Hughes
e e cummings
Edward Gorey

...

I could go on, but I won't. At least for now.
The green careening planet
spins blindly in the dark
so close to annihilation.

Listen. No one listens. Meow.

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