Happy Women's Equality Day, Ladies! (8/26)

[Gawdzilla Sama]

I don't think women are the equals of men.







I think they're far more dangerous.

High praise indeed.

We had a rule. "Shoot the women first." They had something to prove and were very enthusiastic about trying to prove it.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

I don't think women are the equals of men.







I think they're far more dangerous.

You're right, I've seen them parallel park.

You leave my wife out of this!

[Jay G]

I don't think women are the equals of men.







I think they're far more dangerous.

You're right, I've seen them parallel park.

You leave my wife out of this!

And my daughters (ALL of them)

[maiforpeace]

Fuck Women's Equality Day.

What's so equal about earning 77 cents for every dollar men earn for the same job? And, we haven't even gotten the ERA ratified.

[Coito ergo sum]

Because of course the men own the rest of the days...

We have the forgotten holiday...Father's Day - a card - some novelty golf item. Done.

[Jay G]

Fuck Women's Equality Day.

And, we haven't even gotten the ERA ratified.

Why do you care about your Earned Run Average?

[Gawdzilla Sama]

And, we haven't even gotten the ERA ratified.

More women in the US than men. Says something.

[Bella Fortuna]

And, we haven't even gotten the ERA ratified.

More women in the US than men. Says something.

That we know the right arsenic dose?

[Thinking Aloud]

I think they (the Moodies) don't get the respect they deserve. Oh well.

I think the #1 Moodies fan in the world who's a member here would agree.

#1? Not quite.

[Coito ergo sum]

Fuck Women's Equality Day.

What's so equal about earning 77 cents for every dollar men earn for the same job? And, we haven't even gotten the ERA ratified.

That stat is not true. The 77 cents for every dollar does not refer to "for the same job." According to money.cnn.com, the oft-quoted "77 cents" sounds like women are earning less than men are to do exactly the same job. This gender gap in wage earning stat is from a 2004 study by the Census Bureau, which was actually a comparison of median earnings of working men and women who clocked in at least 35 hours per week. It didn’t compare men and women working the same job, as rhetoric often suggests, but rather, median income from any job.

As reported by money.cnn.com, Warren Farrell, author of Why Men Earn More: The Startling Truth Behind the Pay Gap – and What Women Can Do About It, believes this is a case of comparable pay versus equal pay, or apples and oranges. He says men are more likely to make life-decisions that will lead to a higher annual salary. He says males are more apt (than women) to relocate or travel for work, take on more dangerous jobs (over 90 percent of workplace deaths are reportedly men), work in the difficult (read boring) sciences, seek jobs that require financial risk and work jobs in unpleasant environments.

In contrast, he says, "women commonly prefer jobs with shorter and more flexible hours to accommodate the demands of family. Compared to men, [the majority of] women generally favor jobs that involve little danger, no travel and good social skills. Such jobs generally pay less.” For women who earn over $100,000 per year, Farrell says they are more likely [than men at the same pay] to give up a portion of pay to spend more time with their families. http://blogs.payscale.com/ask_dr_salary ... en_sa.html

A major reason for the 23 cent gap in average pay for men and women is that the most physically dangerous jobs require more physical strength than the vast majority of women possess. People, regardless of gender, tend receive higher pay for work that puts life and limb in jeopardy. According to US Department of Labor statistics for 2006, 54% of workers were men and 46% women while 92% of those killed on the job were men and only 8% women. The 23-cent gap between men’s and women’s incomes is to a large extent a reflection of the workplace death gap.

Another reason for the gender wage gap is that women are more likely to move in and out of the labor market than men. That women spend more time out of the paid workforce than men does not necessarily indicate oppression by tyrannical male chauvinist pigs but can reflect the greater freedom we have to devote time to homemaking and/or child care and the generosity and caring of the men who take on the sole breadwinner role in order to allow us that freedom. Indeed, men often take dangerous jobs so they can adequately support the women and children in their lives.

In some careers, Farrell says women actually earn more than their male counterparts do, and he's not just talking about the field of modeling. According to Farrell, the median salaries of women exceeded that of men's by at least 5 percent, and in some careers, up to 43 percent in 39 occupations. Some of the 39 professions include: sales engineers, statisticians, legislators, transportation workers, automotive service technicians and mechanics, speech-language pathologists and library assistants. http://blogs.payscale.com/ask_dr_salary ... en_sa.html

What about right after men and women graduate college? Those men and women should be the least likely to show a pay gap, as typically they are not yet parents. According to a recent study by the American Association of University Women Educational Foundation (mentioned on pamshouseblend.com), there is a pay scale difference between men and women out of college. One year out of college, women who are working full-time are earning 80 percent of what men earn. The study also says that, ten years after graduation, women were earning 69 percent as much as men.

Like the 77 cents on the dollar number, this study was based on median income from all jobs. There is a logical reason behind some of the disparity. According to CNN.money.com, the gender gap in wage earning study said, “Female students tended to study areas with lower pay, such as education, health and psychology, while male students dominated higher-paying fields such as engineering, mathematics and physical sciences.”

We see in the PayScale data exactly the same trends. In our database, the salaried jobs most popular with women are substantially less well paid that the salaried jobs most popular than men. http://blogs.payscale.com/ask_dr_salary ... en_sa.html

The fact is - when you look at women and men in the same jobs + experience, there is no wage gap.

[maiforpeace]

And, we haven't even gotten the ERA ratified.

More women in the US than men. Says something.

You mean congress always votes the interests of their constituents?

[Coito ergo sum]

Fuck Women's Equality Day.

And, we haven't even gotten the ERA ratified.

Why do you care about your Earned Run Average?

They will have true equality when they can explain "the infield fly rule" and how a pitcher can get four strikeouts in one inning.

[Coito ergo sum]

And, we haven't even gotten the ERA ratified.

More women in the US than men. Says something.

You mean congress always votes the interests of their constituents?

If women only voted for women, women would rule completely. Hopefully before then, we would install rules requiring supermajorities for all legislation....

[maiforpeace]

And, we haven't even gotten the ERA ratified.

More women in the US than men. Says something.

You mean congress always votes the interests of their constituents?

If women only voted for women, women would rule completely. Hopefully before then, we would install rules requiring supermajorities for all legislation....

I run a bingo game at a nursing home...of course, the bulk of the residents are women. I might have to add voting registration to the next bingo game.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

And, we haven't even gotten the ERA ratified.

More women in the US than men. Says something.

You mean congress always votes the interests of their constituents?

No, that women had the votes to pass the ERA.