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Post by Robert_S » Wed Aug 04, 2010 3:32 am

So, I was happily browsing in the bookstore when I got trolled by the in-store music. It was a cover of Usuf Islam's "Wild World", which I think is a rather condescending song, and the particular version struck me as even more whiny and pathetic that Cat's. I just couldn't get past the irony of a bookstore playing the music of a man who thinks it would be grand to kill someone over the writing of a book.

I was going to say something to the staff, but I didn't think I could retain my composure long enough to get through it without screaming "Fuck all Islam! Especially Usuf!!!!!!!" at the top of my lungs.
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Re: Barnes and Noble pissed me off.

Post by maiforpeace » Wed Aug 04, 2010 3:34 am

Robert_S wrote:So, I was happily browsing in the bookstore when I got trolled by the in-store music. It was a cover of Usuf Islam's "Wild World", which I think is a rather condescending song, and the particular version struck me as even more whiny and pathetic that Cat's. I just couldn't get past the irony of a bookstore playing the music of a man who thinks it would be grand to kill someone over the writing of a book.

I was going to say something to the staff, but I didn't think I could retain my composure long enough to get through it without screaming "Fuck all Islam! Especially Usuf!!!!!!!" at the top of my lungs.
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Post by Hermit » Wed Aug 04, 2010 5:03 am

Oh, yes, the nerve of it all. Just look at the lyrics:

  • Lalalalalala...

    Now that I've lost everything to you
    You say you wanna start something new
    And it's breakin' my heart you're leavin'
    Baby, I'm grievin'
    But if you wanna leave, take good care
    Hope you have a lot of nice things to wear
    But then a lot of nice things turn bad out there

    CHORUS:
    Oh, baby, baby, it's a wild world
    It's hard to get by just upon a smile
    Oh, baby, baby, it's a wild world
    and I'll always remember you like a child, girl

    You know I've seen a lot of what the world can do
    And it's breakin' my heart in two
    Because I never wanna see you sad, girl
    Don't be a bad girl
    But if you wanna leave, take good care
    Hope you make a lot of nice friends out there
    But just remember there's a lot of bad and beware

    CHORUS

    Lalalalala....

    Baby, I love you
    But if you wanna leave, take good care
    Hope you make a lot of nice friends out there
    But just remember there's a lot of bad and beware

    CHORUS (x2)


Fundamentalist religious shit like that should not be allowed to be broadcast anywhere, even if it was written seven years before the author actually converted to it.
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Post by charlou » Wed Aug 04, 2010 5:08 am

Robert_S wrote:I just couldn't get past the irony of a bookstore playing the music of a man who thinks it would be grand to kill someone over the writing of a book.
I think that's the key point?

This is what muslims are told by Islamic fundamentalists should happen, but does this man (Cat/Yusuf) goes along with that 'interpretation' of Islamic dogma?
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Post by Hermit » Wed Aug 04, 2010 5:18 am

Yusuf Islam did say about the fatwa calling for Salman Rushdie's execution: "He must be killed. The Qur'an makes it clear - if someone defames the prophet, then he must die." The irony is not lost on me either, but I would not get emotionally worked up about barnes & Noble playing a song written by the same pop artist that was created seven years before his conversion, and the lyrics of which cannot be thematically more removed from the writings in the qur'an.
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Post by Robert_S » Wed Aug 04, 2010 5:33 am

Seraph wrote:Yusuf Islam did say about the fatwa calling for Salman Rushdie's execution: "He must be killed. The Qur'an makes it clear - if someone defames the prophet, then he must die." The irony is not lost on me either, but I would not get emotionally worked up about barnes & Noble playing a song written by the same pop artist that was created seven years before his conversion, and the lyrics of which cannot be thematically more removed from the writings in the qur'an.
I don't know if Yusuf gets any royalties from the store playing his music, but the exposure probably helps him with royalties and all that.

If I recall right, Yusuf backtracked a little and said he would only be a party to Salman's death if it were state sanctioned. That makes him a coward on top of everything else in my book.

And the lyrics... they just make me want to puke.
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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Post by FreeThinker23 » Fri Aug 20, 2010 12:09 am

Robert_S wrote:I was going to say something to the staff, but I didn't think I could retain my composure long enough to get through it without screaming "Fuck all Islam! Especially Usuf!!!!!!!" at the top of my lungs.
A lot of stores have a third-party source (such as Muzak) for the in-store music, so they may not have had control over what was being played. Your complaint probably would have fallen on deaf ears anyway.

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Post by Robert_S » Fri Aug 20, 2010 12:18 am

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Robert_S wrote:I was going to say something to the staff, but I didn't think I could retain my composure long enough to get through it without screaming "Fuck all Islam! Especially Usuf!!!!!!!" at the top of my lungs.
A lot of stores have a third-party source (such as Muzak) for the in-store music, so they may not have had control over what was being played. Your complaint probably would have fallen on deaf ears anyway.
Or perhaps helpless but sympathetic ones.
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Post by Animavore » Fri Aug 20, 2010 7:31 am

Seraph wrote:
and I'll always remember you like a child, girl
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Post by Link » Fri Aug 20, 2010 8:08 am

Animavore wrote:
Seraph wrote:
and I'll always remember you like a child, girl
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Post by mistermack » Sat Aug 21, 2010 10:41 am

It's a great song. Cat Stevens was a fabulous song-writer.
I don't think it's condescending. I always thought it had a hint of a father letting his daughter go. He did write the father-and-son song as well.

Anyway, lot of girls do get by "just upon a smile". It's their most deadly weapon.
They are nowhere near as vulnerable as Cat Stevens thought at the time. I don't think it's condescending, it's just a bit innocent.
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Post by tattuchu » Sat Aug 21, 2010 2:19 pm

Teaser and the Firecat is one of the greatest pop records of all time. It's flawless from start to finish, and infused with a rare magic. Sad, though, that the man who sang "Peace Train" now advocates death to "blasphemers" :ddpan:
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Post by tattuchu » Sat Aug 21, 2010 2:26 pm

In fact I'm gonna put it in my CD player right now...
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Post by Imagination Theory » Mon Aug 23, 2010 7:57 am

Robert_S wrote:
Seraph wrote:Yusuf Islam did say about the fatwa calling for Salman Rushdie's execution: "He must be killed. The Qur'an makes it clear - if someone defames the prophet, then he must die." The irony is not lost on me either, but I would not get emotionally worked up about barnes & Noble playing a song written by the same pop artist that was created seven years before his conversion, and the lyrics of which cannot be thematically more removed from the writings in the qur'an.
I don't know if Yusuf gets any royalties from the store playing his music, but the exposure probably helps him with royalties and all that.

If I recall right, Yusuf backtracked a little and said he would only be a party to Salman's death if it were state sanctioned. That makes him a coward on top of everything else in my book.

And the lyrics... they just make me want to puke.
Fucking dick, I'd be pissed too. :evil:


Did you buy anything there, by the way, I think people should just go to overpriced book stores to look for books and skim inside them and then go online and buy the book for half the price or less. ;)
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За одиночество вдвоем,
И за тебя я пью, -
За ложь меня предавших губ,
За мертвый холод глаз,
За то, что мир жесток и груб,
За то, что Бог не спас.

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Re: Barnes and Noble pissed me off.

Post by Robert_S » Mon Aug 23, 2010 8:26 am

Imagination Theory wrote:
Robert_S wrote:
Seraph wrote:Yusuf Islam did say about the fatwa calling for Salman Rushdie's execution: "He must be killed. The Qur'an makes it clear - if someone defames the prophet, then he must die." The irony is not lost on me either, but I would not get emotionally worked up about barnes & Noble playing a song written by the same pop artist that was created seven years before his conversion, and the lyrics of which cannot be thematically more removed from the writings in the qur'an.
I don't know if Yusuf gets any royalties from the store playing his music, but the exposure probably helps him with royalties and all that.

If I recall right, Yusuf backtracked a little and said he would only be a party to Salman's death if it were state sanctioned. That makes him a coward on top of everything else in my book.

And the lyrics... they just make me want to puke.
Fucking dick, I'd be pissed too. :evil:


Did you buy anything there, by the way, I think people should just go to overpriced book stores to look for books and skim inside them and then go online and buy the book for half the price or less. ;)
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