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Re: America! We brought democracy to Iraq!

Post by Robert_S » Sat Aug 21, 2010 12:19 am

Ian wrote:
sandinista wrote:
mistermack wrote:
Ian wrote:Y'know who's even dumber than Americans? People who say "Americans" like we're all one and the same. People like you. I voted against George W. Bush, thanks.
How could anyone assume that I meant every single american? You're picking a meaning out of what I wrote that you know perfectly well wasn't there.

I was talking about winning an election. Bush won a strong majority the second time round. He conned enough americans to do that.
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Re: America! We brought democracy to Iraq!

Post by Toontown » Sat Aug 21, 2010 12:47 am

Robert_S wrote:
Toontown wrote:I hesitate to ask, for fear of dislodging another avalanche of leftobot propaganda....but what the hell. We only live once, or so the beer commercial confidently declares...so let's get them doggies rolling.
There might be a noteworthy point in that post, but I couldn't be arsed to look at the word "leftobot" more than twice, so I will forever be without an opinion of the posts actual content.
You won't answer the very simple question I posed because I said "leftobot" a lot?

Excuses are like assholes.

You didn't have to get past very many "leftobots" to get to the very simple question. I'm pretty sure you saw the question.

If you don't want to answer the very simple question, why did you bother responding to the post? Trying to sweep the question under the rug by criticizing the questioner's posting style?

Why do you want to make the very simple question go away?

"My question is, why do leftobot automatons keep repetitively screaming that the U.S. is taking Iraq's oil, without any evidence? Is there some reason for this, other than inherent dishonesty?"
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Re: America! We brought democracy to Iraq!

Post by Trolldor » Sat Aug 21, 2010 12:56 am

lol.
More nonsense. You and gawd are so much alike - any point you might make is drowned in your abject and irrational hatred.
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Re: America! We brought democracy to Iraq!

Post by sandinista » Sat Aug 21, 2010 1:18 am

Ian wrote:
sandinista wrote:
mistermack wrote:
Ian wrote:Y'know who's even dumber than Americans? People who say "Americans" like we're all one and the same. People like you. I voted against George W. Bush, thanks.
How could anyone assume that I meant every single american? You're picking a meaning out of what I wrote that you know perfectly well wasn't there.

I was talking about winning an election. Bush won a strong majority the second time round. He conned enough americans to do that.
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Don't worry about Ian, he can't help himself, just ignore him.
Yeah, I'm quite the fanatic. ;)
So...what does that have to do with anything. I am not a fanatic either and you made the same snide ass comment about me. Oh...wait, whats that??? I AM a fanatic...really!! Because you said so I suppose. Ok, in that case, you are a fanatic as well. :roll:
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Re: America! We brought democracy to Iraq!

Post by Toontown » Sat Aug 21, 2010 1:42 am

The Mad Hatter wrote:lol.
More nonsense. You and gawd are so much alike - any point you might make is drowned in your abject and irrational hatred.
Wouldn't that be more like Sandinista?

Perhaps we will discuss your own "irrational hatred" later.

In the meantime, I'll take these repeated slaggings-off of the very simple question as tacit admissions that the leftobot automatons are lying about the U.S. stealing Iraq's oil. And that's not all they're lying about.

Although I'm sure the automatons really believed the lie in 2005. Perhaps It is just hard for them to shift their propagandistic gears. Perhaps they keep forgetting they blew out that gear of their unsynchronized propagandistic transmission by repeatedly slamming into it without regard to road speed or RPM.

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Re: America! We brought democracy to Iraq!

Post by Robert_S » Sat Aug 21, 2010 1:49 am

sandinista wrote:
Ian wrote:
sandinista wrote:
mistermack wrote:
Ian wrote:Y'know who's even dumber than Americans? People who say "Americans" like we're all one and the same. People like you. I voted against George W. Bush, thanks.
How could anyone assume that I meant every single american? You're picking a meaning out of what I wrote that you know perfectly well wasn't there.

I was talking about winning an election. Bush won a strong majority the second time round. He conned enough americans to do that.
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Don't worry about Ian, he can't help himself, just ignore him.
Yeah, I'm quite the fanatic. ;)
So...what does that have to do with anything. I am not a fanatic either and you made the same snide ass comment about me. Oh...wait, whats that??? I AM a fanatic...really!! Because you said so I suppose. Ok, in that case, you are a fanatic as well. :roll:
You've implied he's something at least very like a fanatic, if he's to be ignored because he can't help himself.
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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Re: America! We brought democracy to Iraq!

Post by kiore » Sat Aug 21, 2010 1:55 am

Toontown wrote:
The Mad Hatter wrote:lol.
More nonsense. You and gawd are so much alike - any point you might make is drowned in your abject and irrational hatred.
Wouldn't that be more like Sandinista?

Perhaps we will discuss your own "irrational hatred" later.

In the meantime, I'll take these repeated slaggings-off of the very simple question as tacit admissions that the leftobot automatons are lying about the U.S. stealing Iraq's oil. And that's not all they're lying about.

Although I'm sure the automatons really believed the lie in 2005. Perhaps It is just hard for them to shift their propagandistic gears. Perhaps they keep forgetting they blew out that gear of their unsynchronized propagandistic transmission by repeatedly slamming into it without regard to road speed or RPM.
Is this an attempt to get leftbot included in a dictionary?
"unsynchronized propagandistic transmission" this one is more difficult try:unsynchronized-propagandistic-transmissionarianism . :pardon:
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Re: America! We brought democracy to Iraq!

Post by Trolldor » Sat Aug 21, 2010 1:56 am

Stop your Confuscational attemps at bi-prioritising these Chomskese protentions of linguistic acceleratation!
"The fact is that far more crime and child abuse has been committed by zealots in the name of God, Jesus and Mohammed than has ever been committed in the name of Satan. Many people don't like that statement but few can argue with it."

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Re: America! We brought democracy to Iraq!

Post by Robert_S » Sat Aug 21, 2010 1:59 am

Toontown wrote:
Robert_S wrote:
Toontown wrote:I hesitate to ask, for fear of dislodging another avalanche of leftobot propaganda....but what the hell. We only live once, or so the beer commercial confidently declares...so let's get them doggies rolling.
There might be a noteworthy point in that post, but I couldn't be arsed to look at the word "leftobot" more than twice, so I will forever be without an opinion of the posts actual content.
You won't answer the very simple question I posed because I said "leftobot" a lot?

Excuses are like assholes.

You didn't have to get past very many "leftobots" to get to the very simple question. I'm pretty sure you saw the question.

If you don't want to answer the very simple question, why did you bother responding to the post? Trying to sweep the question under the rug by criticizing the questioner's posting style?

Why do you want to make the very simple question go away?

"My question is, why do leftobot automatons keep repetitively screaming that the U.S. is taking Iraq's oil, without any evidence? Is there some reason for this, other than inherent dishonesty?"
Iraqi oil used to be a public sector thing, owned by the Iraqis themselves. There was a war and this is no longer the case.

Where are the WMDs?
Where are the plans for the Death Star?
Where is the money Lebowski?
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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Re: America! We brought democracy to Iraq!

Post by Trolldor » Sat Aug 21, 2010 2:00 am

Not the rug!
"The fact is that far more crime and child abuse has been committed by zealots in the name of God, Jesus and Mohammed than has ever been committed in the name of Satan. Many people don't like that statement but few can argue with it."

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Re: America! We brought democracy to Iraq!

Post by Toontown » Sat Aug 21, 2010 3:01 am

Robert_S wrote: Iraqi oil used to be a public sector thing, owned by the Iraqis themselves. There was a war and this is no longer the case.
Oh, that's the leftobots' excuse?

Whatever. The oil stopped being "owned by the Iraqis themselves" (if it ever was) when Saddam seized power in 1979. By then the Ba'aths had been in de facto control of Iraq since 1968, with Saddam as the muscle. The oil was nationalized in 1972.

I do hope your cryptic little remark was not intended to convey the impression that Iraq's oil is being stolen. Buying oil concessions from the Iraq Oil Ministry is not stealing. There is nothing unusual about buying and selling oil concessions. It is the best way to maximize production and profits.

Robert_S wrote: Where are the WMDs?
Where are the plans for the Death Star?
Where is the money Lebowski?
Running off on a tangent now, are you? Well, goodbye. Have a nice tangent run, or whatever.

As expected, your response to my question was completely inadequate bordering on fundamentally dishonest.

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Post by Warren Dew » Sat Aug 21, 2010 4:07 am

Toontown wrote:You won't answer the very simple question I posed because I said "leftobot" a lot?
I think I actually agreed with your point, but the term was pretty distracting to me, too.

Can't think of a better term offhand, though.

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Re: America! We brought democracy to Iraq!

Post by Warren Dew » Sat Aug 21, 2010 4:15 am

mistermack wrote:And now the US wants 1000 billion Dollars in oil to pay for it.
Source?

I'm pretty sure the Iraqi government is selling the oil at market prices. I'm also quite sure it's going to be a long time before they pump anywhere close to "1000 billion Dollars" of it. They'll be lucky if they can get output much above 50 billion dollars worth per year in the foreseeable future.

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Post by Trolldor » Sat Aug 21, 2010 4:24 am

Warren Dew wrote:
Toontown wrote:You won't answer the very simple question I posed because I said "leftobot" a lot?
I think I actually agreed with your point, but the term was pretty distracting to me, too.

Can't think of a better term offhand, though.
I can, a number of them.
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Re: America! We brought democracy to Iraq!

Post by BrettA » Sat Aug 21, 2010 5:03 am

I didn't go through all the posts so sorry if it's been mentioned...

but Eye-raq?!? How many years were they here and they still can't pronounce the country? Good to see 'em go, though.
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