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Australian Judge orders woman to remove niqab

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Re: Australian Judge orders woman to remove niqab

Post by charlou » Thu Aug 19, 2010 7:17 am

the article wrote:The prosecution said the woman - identified only as Tasneem - would feel uncomfortable without her niqab, which would affect her evidence.

But the defence said the jury should be able to watch her facial expressions.
I sympathise (acknowledgement, not approval) with the woman's situation (she's 36 and never been out in public without wearing the niqab since 17 years of age), but people aren't allowed to wear balaklava's when appearing in court, either.

The judge says this isn't a precedent. I disagree.
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Post by JimC » Thu Aug 19, 2010 8:51 am

A sensible decision. This is a very different ball-game to proposed general bans in some European countries. No one else has the right to cover their face in a court-room (possibly except for protected witnesses, in extreme circumstances, for excellent reasons), so why should one flavour of delusion entitle you to?
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Post by Pappa » Thu Aug 19, 2010 9:02 am

JimC wrote:A sensible decision. This is a very different ball-game to proposed general bans in some European countries. No one else has the right to cover their face in a court-room (possibly except for protected witnesses, in extreme circumstances, for excellent reasons), so why should one flavour of delusion entitle you to?
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Besides, if the woman is genuinely concerned about feeling too uncomfortable to give evidence, they could offer a video link. I've sat on a jury where once was used and I saw no obvious down sides.
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Post by mistermack » Thu Aug 19, 2010 10:14 am

What the fuck are they funding Islamic Schools for anyway? When I'm in power these religious loonies won't get one penny. And I'll make it law that they have to wear the shishkebab.
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mistermack wrote:What the fuck are they funding Islamic Schools for anyway? When I'm in power these religious loonies won't get one penny. And I'll make it law that they have to wear the shishkebab.
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Post by mistermack » Thu Aug 19, 2010 10:18 am

JimC wrote:
mistermack wrote:What the fuck are they funding Islamic Schools for anyway? When I'm in power these religious loonies won't get one penny. And I'll make it law that they have to wear the shishkebab.
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Post by Trolldor » Thu Aug 19, 2010 2:47 pm

mistermack wrote:What the fuck are they funding Islamic Schools for anyway? When I'm in power these religious loonies won't get one penny. And I'll make it law that they have to wear the shishkebab.
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Post by maiforpeace » Thu Aug 19, 2010 2:51 pm

This is becoming more and more of an issue all around the globe.

http://www.ndtv.com/article/world/musli ... carf-45556
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Post by Trolldor » Thu Aug 19, 2010 2:54 pm

Actually, in the article you posted I don't see why she should have to remove it.

Quite the reverse from the Aust. Case.
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Post by leo-rcc » Thu Aug 19, 2010 2:59 pm

The Mad Hatter wrote:Actually, in the article you posted I don't see why she should have to remove it.

Quite the reverse from the Aust. Case.
:this:

I see no reason at all why she wouldn't be able to do her job while wearing the ḥijāb.
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Post by maiforpeace » Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:06 pm

leo-rcc wrote:
The Mad Hatter wrote:Actually, in the article you posted I don't see why she should have to remove it.

Quite the reverse from the Aust. Case.
:this:

I see no reason at all why she wouldn't be able to do her job while wearing the ḥijāb.
I posted it because the wearing of veils is becoming an issue everywhere - not because I think it's right or wrong.
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Post by Trolldor » Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:07 pm

Thanks for clarifying.

Anyway, it's been a problem for some time now, the only difference is that Islam has been recieving special treatment since 9/11 and they've been taking advantage of it.
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Re: Australian Judge orders woman to remove niqab

Post by maiforpeace » Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:12 pm

The Mad Hatter wrote:Thanks for clarifying.

Anyway, it's been a problem for some time now, the only difference is that Islam has been recieving special treatment since 9/11 and they've been taking advantage of it.
Exactly, and in the case of the Disneyland thing, the union is taking advantage of it too.
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Re: Australian Judge orders woman to remove niqab

Post by mistermack » Thu Aug 19, 2010 5:28 pm

The Mad Hatter wrote:
mistermack wrote:What the fuck are they funding Islamic Schools for anyway? When I'm in power these religious loonies won't get one penny. And I'll make it law that they have to wear the shishkebab.
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