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Re: A Possible Change In The Rules - RatSkep tangent

Post by JimC » Thu Aug 19, 2010 9:59 am

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Posse Comitatus wrote:So I wouldn't be allowed to make a post saying 'Fat people are awful' without getting a warning?
I guess the question is, why would you want to generalise and denigrate a group of people?
:whisper: There is a branch of humour, both whimsical and twisted, black and cheeky, that does seem to pass by the good denizens of RatSkep...
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Re: A Possible Change In The Rules - RatSkep tangent

Post by FBM » Thu Aug 19, 2010 10:01 am

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Posse Comitatus wrote:So I wouldn't be allowed to make a post saying 'Fat people are awful' without getting a warning?
I guess the question is, why would you want to generalise and denigrate a group of people?
Even if he were wrong in thinking so, shouldn't he be able to say what he thinks? It's only than that opposing views can be presented. In the exchange, he may very well discover a better way to think. That would be using the forum to help its members learn and progress in their reasoning abilities. I'm not suggesting that hate speech be allowed, but differing and minority opinions are potentially valuable.

That said, the way RatSkep is run doesn't bother me in the least, as I rarely post there. The founders have the right to design the place to match the sort of forum they wanted in the first place, eh?
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Re: A Possible Change In The Rules - RatSkep tangent

Post by Posse Comitatus » Thu Aug 19, 2010 10:08 am

rEvolutionist wrote:
Posse Comitatus wrote:So I wouldn't be allowed to make a post saying 'Fat people are awful' without getting a warning?
I guess the question is, why would you want to generalise and denigrate a group of people?
Because I hate them all?

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Re: A Possible Change In The Rules - RatSkep tangent

Post by Pappa » Thu Aug 19, 2010 10:09 am

rEvolutionist wrote:
Posse Comitatus wrote:So I wouldn't be allowed to make a post saying 'Fat people are awful' without getting a warning?
I guess the question is, why would you want to generalise and denigrate a group of people?
Denigrate implies you actually mean it. You'll find a lot of ironic, satirical humor over here. We even have a pet Jew now. :lol:
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Re: A Possible Change In The Rules - RatSkep tangent

Post by pErvinalia » Thu Aug 19, 2010 10:11 am

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rEvolutionist wrote:
Posse Comitatus wrote:So I wouldn't be allowed to make a post saying 'Fat people are awful' without getting a warning?
I guess the question is, why would you want to generalise and denigrate a group of people?
:whisper: There is a branch of humour, both whimsical and twisted, black and cheeky, that does seem to pass by the good denizens of RatSkep...
What, is that the same kind of "humour" when someone says that gays are perverts, or black people aren't as intelligent as white people? Sorry, but I honestly don't see what's funny about denigrating a whole group of people. :dunno:
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Re: A Possible Change In The Rules - RatSkep tangent

Post by JimC » Thu Aug 19, 2010 10:12 am

rEvolutionist wrote:
JimC wrote:
rEvolutionist wrote:
Posse Comitatus wrote:So I wouldn't be allowed to make a post saying 'Fat people are awful' without getting a warning?
I guess the question is, why would you want to generalise and denigrate a group of people?
:whisper: There is a branch of humour, both whimsical and twisted, black and cheeky, that does seem to pass by the good denizens of RatSkep...
What, is that the same kind of "humour" when someone says that gays are perverts, or black people aren't as intelligent as white people? Sorry, but I honestly don't see what's funny about denigrating a whole group of people. :dunno:
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Re: A Possible Change In The Rules - RatSkep tangent

Post by Posse Comitatus » Thu Aug 19, 2010 10:16 am

rEvolutionist wrote: I honestly don't see what's funny about denigrating a whole group of people. :dunno:
It's funny because they're not us.

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Re: A Possible Change In The Rules - RatSkep tangent

Post by pErvinalia » Thu Aug 19, 2010 10:19 am

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rEvolutionist wrote:
Posse Comitatus wrote:So I wouldn't be allowed to make a post saying 'Fat people are awful' without getting a warning?
I guess the question is, why would you want to generalise and denigrate a group of people?
Even if he were wrong in thinking so, shouldn't he be able to say what he thinks? It's only than that opposing views can be presented. In the exchange, he may very well discover a better way to think. That would be using the forum to help its members learn and progress in their reasoning abilities. I'm not suggesting that hate speech be allowed, but differing and minority opinions are potentially valuable.
Sure, but there has to be a line drawn somewhere (well, there doesn't have to be, but most people agree that a line does need to be drawn). I think it's just too ignorant and too irrational, as well as being hateful, to be given any airtime on a site devoted to rationality. And let's be honest here, most people who hold racist and/or sexist and/or other discriminatory views like that aren't likely to be swayed by a good argument. They get off on trolling. There's plenty of other places on the net were they can be a troll. Why should we suffer them?
That said, the way RatSkep is run doesn't bother me in the least, as I rarely post there. The founders have the right to design the place to match the sort of forum they wanted in the first place, eh?
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Re: A Possible Change In The Rules - RatSkep tangent

Post by pErvinalia » Thu Aug 19, 2010 10:21 am

Posse Comitatus wrote:
rEvolutionist wrote:
Posse Comitatus wrote:So I wouldn't be allowed to make a post saying 'Fat people are awful' without getting a warning?
I guess the question is, why would you want to generalise and denigrate a group of people?
Because I hate them all?
OK, i'm finally catching on that you are probably taking the piss. You are taking the piss, right?

Be that as it may, there are plenty of wankers out there who actually say stuff like that. So hopefully my comments are still relevant.
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Re: A Possible Change In The Rules - RatSkep tangent

Post by devogue » Thu Aug 19, 2010 10:32 am

rEvolutionist wrote:
Posse Comitatus wrote:So I wouldn't be allowed to make a post saying 'Fat people are awful' without getting a warning?
I guess the question is, why would you want to generalise and denigrate a group of people?
To see what happens. :hehe:

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Re: A Possible Change In The Rules - RatSkep tangent

Post by pErvinalia » Thu Aug 19, 2010 10:34 am

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rEvolutionist wrote:
Posse Comitatus wrote:So I wouldn't be allowed to make a post saying 'Fat people are awful' without getting a warning?
I guess the question is, why would you want to generalise and denigrate a group of people?
To see what happens. :hehe:
We already know what happens (at ratskep). You'll get banned.
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Re: A Possible Change In The Rules - RatSkep tangent

Post by charlou » Thu Aug 19, 2010 10:41 am

Pappa wrote:
rEvolutionist wrote:
Posse Comitatus wrote:So I wouldn't be allowed to make a post saying 'Fat people are awful' without getting a warning?
I guess the question is, why would you want to generalise and denigrate a group of people?
Denigrate implies you actually mean it. You'll find a lot of ironic, satirical humor over here. We even have a pet Jew now. :lol:
He and our token fat person are :date:
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Re: A Possible Change In The Rules - RatSkep tangent

Post by charlou » Thu Aug 19, 2010 10:42 am

rEvolutionist wrote:
Posse Comitatus wrote:
rEvolutionist wrote:
Posse Comitatus wrote:So I wouldn't be allowed to make a post saying 'Fat people are awful' without getting a warning?
I guess the question is, why would you want to generalise and denigrate a group of people?
Because I hate them all?
OK, i'm finally catching on that you are probably taking the piss. You are taking the piss, right?

Be that as it may, there are plenty of wankers out there who actually say stuff like that. So hopefully my comments are still relevant.
I'd call you on group hate speech there, only wanking is so :shiver:
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Re: A Possible Change In The Rules - RatSkep tangent

Post by Durro » Thu Aug 19, 2010 11:25 am

Gallstones wrote:
I have a feeling I am about to be fast tracked to suspension if not banning.
Really ? Those bastards...

And just how many formal warnings and/or suspensions have you received so far ?

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Re: A Possible Change In The Rules

Post by Trolldor » Thu Aug 19, 2010 12:15 pm

rEvolutionist wrote:
The Mad Hatter wrote:The original poster stated an opinion. If he's going to be warned for his personal views, as opposed to challenged, then there's nothing rational about your approach.


/thread.
I'm not sure if this is in response to me, but if so I'm not really sure what you are talking about. I'm not responding to the OP of this thread at all, I'm just addressing Gallstones point.

I was actually referring to the warning of the author of the fatrolls thread.
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