From my understanding, things would have been a great deal better if the US would have either allowed for a more orderly withdrawal on the part of the Soviets or made some kind of effort to avoid the turmoil immediately following it.JimC wrote:Without holding any brief for the Soviet forces supporting the leftist regime at the time, the CIA aid to the anti-Soviet resistance was merely another cynical chess move in the cold war, with no heroic or liberating motives whatsoever. Long term vision was somewhat lacking...Robert_S wrote:You are referring to the '80s stuff? Most of us ordinary citizens were under the impression that we were helping to liberate the nation from an oppressive occupier, which was true, but not the entire story.Gawd wrote:You're right, Jim. I blame the Ameri-somethings for the war and lawlessness over there that they created.JimC wrote:There will be a certain element of the left which will use this to bash US and allied involvement, even though it is criminal action by islamic thugs...
Afghan Casualties rising.
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What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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No group whatsoever comes out of that era in Afghanistan looking good...Robert_S wrote:From my understanding, things would have been a great deal better if the US would have either allowed for a more orderly withdrawal on the part of the Soviets or made some kind of effort to avoid the turmoil immediately following it.JimC wrote:Without holding any brief for the Soviet forces supporting the leftist regime at the time, the CIA aid to the anti-Soviet resistance was merely another cynical chess move in the cold war, with no heroic or liberating motives whatsoever. Long term vision was somewhat lacking...Robert_S wrote:You are referring to the '80s stuff? Most of us ordinary citizens were under the impression that we were helping to liberate the nation from an oppressive occupier, which was true, but not the entire story.Gawd wrote:You're right, Jim. I blame the Ameri-somethings for the war and lawlessness over there that they created.JimC wrote:There will be a certain element of the left which will use this to bash US and allied involvement, even though it is criminal action by islamic thugs...
Complete cluster fuck from start to finish by all concerned...
Nurse, where the fuck's my cardigan?
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Madagascar did well.
"The fact is that far more crime and child abuse has been committed by zealots in the name of God, Jesus and Mohammed than has ever been committed in the name of Satan. Many people don't like that statement but few can argue with it."
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Even more elliptical than usual, grasshopper...The Mad Hatter wrote:Madagascar did well.
Nurse, where the fuck's my cardigan?
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It closed it's fucking borders.
(...nevermind. Joke is not funny if I have to explain it. In fact, I regret making the joke.)
(...nevermind. Joke is not funny if I have to explain it. In fact, I regret making the joke.)
"The fact is that far more crime and child abuse has been committed by zealots in the name of God, Jesus and Mohammed than has ever been committed in the name of Satan. Many people don't like that statement but few can argue with it."
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^^^^^^^^^
I had a funny feeling you may have been referring to the box office success of that appalling Disney film...
I had a funny feeling you may have been referring to the box office success of that appalling Disney film...
Nurse, where the fuck's my cardigan?
And my gin!
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Thankfully no.
"The fact is that far more crime and child abuse has been committed by zealots in the name of God, Jesus and Mohammed than has ever been committed in the name of Satan. Many people don't like that statement but few can argue with it."
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Oh my gawd, it's a catastrophe: The US has found 1.8 billion barrels of oil in Afghanistan. Now they will never leave (as if they were really going to before). This is a dark, dark day.
http://af.reuters.com/article/worldNews ... AO20100815
http://af.reuters.com/article/worldNews ... AO20100815
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