First creatures to lay eggs

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First creatures to lay eggs

Post by Dory » Fri Aug 13, 2010 6:06 am

I assume it was the dinosaurs...but I can't find any info as far as the history and evolution of the egg. help?

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Re: First creatures to lay eggs

Post by Pappa » Fri Aug 13, 2010 9:16 am

Fish?
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Re: First creatures to lay eggs

Post by Dory » Fri Aug 13, 2010 10:39 am

Pappa wrote:Fish?
Eggshells eggs. Calcium carbonate sort

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Re: First creatures to lay eggs

Post by Pappa » Fri Aug 13, 2010 10:41 am

Dory wrote:
Pappa wrote:Fish?
Eggshells eggs. Calcium carbonate sort
Dino eggs were leathery ( think). So yes, I expect it would be dino eggs that were the first hard shelled eggs... seeing as birds are really just dinos anyway.
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Re: First creatures to lay eggs

Post by Dory » Fri Aug 13, 2010 10:47 am

Pappa wrote:
Dory wrote:
Pappa wrote:Fish?
Eggshells eggs. Calcium carbonate sort
Dino eggs were leathery ( think). So yes, I expect it would be dino eggs that were the first hard shelled eggs... seeing as birds are really just dinos anyway.
Right...it seems that holds water (excuse this overused pun) amongst large animals. I think insects were the first though. I presume that land animals eggs evolved to contain more fluids and water as opposed to fish eggs? It seems to make sense but I'm looking for evidence and references.

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Re: First creatures to lay eggs

Post by Pappa » Fri Aug 13, 2010 10:51 am

Dory wrote:
Pappa wrote:
Dory wrote:
Pappa wrote:Fish?
Eggshells eggs. Calcium carbonate sort
Dino eggs were leathery ( think). So yes, I expect it would be dino eggs that were the first hard shelled eggs... seeing as birds are really just dinos anyway.
Right...it seems that holds water (excuse this overused pun) amongst large animals. I think insects were the first though. I presume that land animals eggs evolved to contain more fluids and water as opposed to fish eggs? It seems to make sense but I'm looking for evidence and references.
Marine arthropods came before insects, and they laid eggs.
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Re: First creatures to lay eggs

Post by Dory » Fri Aug 13, 2010 11:02 am

Pappa wrote:
Dory wrote:
Pappa wrote:
Dory wrote:
Pappa wrote:Fish?
Eggshells eggs. Calcium carbonate sort
Dino eggs were leathery ( think). So yes, I expect it would be dino eggs that were the first hard shelled eggs... seeing as birds are really just dinos anyway.
Right...it seems that holds water (excuse this overused pun) amongst large animals. I think insects were the first though. I presume that land animals eggs evolved to contain more fluids and water as opposed to fish eggs? It seems to make sense but I'm looking for evidence and references.
Marine arthropods came before insects, and they laid eggs.
Right...okay, I think I got this thing mapped. Any more info and I'm the world first eggologist.

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Re: First creatures to lay eggs

Post by Svartalf » Fri Aug 13, 2010 11:17 am

Dory wrote:
Pappa wrote:Fish?
Eggshells eggs. Calcium carbonate sort
Then it would have been reptiles from the Carboniferous era, long before there were proper dinosaurs... with luck, it might even have happened with Devonian early land dwellers (early reptiles or not-quite reptiles evolved from amphibians).
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Re: First creatures to lay eggs

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Fri Aug 13, 2010 11:37 am

Svartalf wrote:
Dory wrote:
Pappa wrote:Fish?
Eggshells eggs. Calcium carbonate sort
Then it would have been reptiles from the Carboniferous era, long before there were proper dinosaurs... with luck, it might even have happened with Devonian early land dwellers (early reptiles or not-quite reptiles evolved from amphibians).
"The fish that walked" would continue to lay eggs. Probably in pools at first, but the successful ones would be the ones that didn't need the pools for their eggs to survive, probably by a process of surviving when the pools dried up. The "winners" in that contest would trend toward "no pool" laying. SWAG off.
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