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by Rum » Tue Aug 03, 2010 6:28 pm
Normal wrote:Here is the first picture I took of her (without gore and blood all over). She's resting in daddy's arms while mommy sadly had to go to get 3 litres of replacement blood. Strangely I didn't feel scared or alone, I just felt happy holding my baby

Is that baby Islamic? What's the relevance!?
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by Coito ergo sum » Tue Aug 03, 2010 6:45 pm
AnInconvenientScotsman wrote:Coito ergo sum wrote:[
I object to the White Knight defense because it's discriminatorily applied. It's like being against the death penalty not on cruelty grounds, but on the grounds that it is applied more frequently against blacks than whites.
I also object to it because it's stupid. The English language, when used in conversation, is full of generalizations. If we're having a discussion and Elessarina tells me that "Men are Pigs!" - I don't think we need the White Knights to ride to the rescue of males in general and make sure that everyone is cautioned that not "all" men are pigs.
We're all perfectly capable of understanding that when we say "Islam motivates X" that we don't mean that every single god damn Muslim does X. Heck, most of the religious conversations on this website would be difficult to even have if generalizations couldn't be used. We're always talking about religions' impact on the world. This religion does that, and this religion says that. Do we mean EVERY SINGLE self-identified member of those groups does X, Y or Z? Of course not.
The reality is, people swoop in more frequently to defend the honor of Islam (for whatever reason). I wish they'd stop. Islam can take care of itself, and needs no more champions.
It's still no reason to object to someone defending a group on rational grounds

Of course it is. I gave you two good reasons.
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by AnInconvenientScotsman » Tue Aug 03, 2010 6:55 pm
Coito ergo sum wrote:AnInconvenientScotsman wrote:Coito ergo sum wrote:[
I object to the White Knight defense because it's discriminatorily applied. It's like being against the death penalty not on cruelty grounds, but on the grounds that it is applied more frequently against blacks than whites.
I also object to it because it's stupid. The English language, when used in conversation, is full of generalizations. If we're having a discussion and Elessarina tells me that "Men are Pigs!" - I don't think we need the White Knights to ride to the rescue of males in general and make sure that everyone is cautioned that not "all" men are pigs.
We're all perfectly capable of understanding that when we say "Islam motivates X" that we don't mean that every single god damn Muslim does X. Heck, most of the religious conversations on this website would be difficult to even have if generalizations couldn't be used. We're always talking about religions' impact on the world. This religion does that, and this religion says that. Do we mean EVERY SINGLE self-identified member of those groups does X, Y or Z? Of course not.
The reality is, people swoop in more frequently to defend the honor of Islam (for whatever reason). I wish they'd stop. Islam can take care of itself, and needs no more champions.
It's still no reason to object to someone defending a group on rational grounds

Of course it is. I gave you two good reasons.
The hell they are. Because English is full of generalisations doesn't mean that people aren't allowed to be defended from those, and just because you assume everybody here is intelligent enough not to make sweeping generalisations does not make it so. Individuals and groups should be allowed to be defended from such generalisations, especially when they are not present to defend themselves - because people do it all the time doesn't make it wrong in specific situations, ever situation is singular and often unique.
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by maiforpeace » Tue Aug 03, 2010 6:58 pm
Coito ergo sum wrote:
This thread is becoming yet another prime example of the "White Knight" chivalrous rush to the defense of Islam that is so common these days.
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by Toontown » Wed Aug 04, 2010 2:40 pm
Lots of "sweeping generalization" cops around here. This sweeping generalization stuff must be very bad, to require so many cops watching for it.
Trouble is, CES seems to be on to something. The SweepGen cops only seem to be watching for sweepgens against muslims and leftists. Sweepgens against unprotected groups do routinely go unreported and unpunished.
Odd. Suspicious, even.
Yeah, I know. I've just made a sweeping generalization. I'll go quietly this time. But I'm watching you, SweepGen cops.
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by normal » Wed Aug 04, 2010 2:58 pm
Toontown wrote:Lots of "sweeping generalization" cops around here. This sweeping generalization stuff must be very bad, to require so many cops watching for it.
Trouble is, CES seems to be on to something. The SweepGen cops only seem to be watching for sweepgens against muslims and leftists. Sweepgens against unprotected groups do routinely go unreported and unpunished.
Odd. Suspicious, even.
Yeah, I know. I've just made a sweeping generalization. I'll go quietly this time. But I'm watching you, SweepGen cops.
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by Pappa » Wed Aug 04, 2010 3:01 pm
Normal wrote:Toontown wrote:Lots of "sweeping generalization" cops around here. This sweeping generalization stuff must be very bad, to require so many cops watching for it.
Trouble is, CES seems to be on to something. The SweepGen cops only seem to be watching for sweepgens against muslims and leftists. Sweepgens against unprotected groups do routinely go unreported and unpunished.
Odd. Suspicious, even.
Yeah, I know. I've just made a sweeping generalization. I'll go quietly this time. But I'm watching you, SweepGen cops.
Go to bed. You're tired.
I blame teh Jews!
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by Elessarina » Wed Aug 04, 2010 3:06 pm
Pappa wrote:
I blame teh Jews!
I blame the Welsh
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by Pappa » Wed Aug 04, 2010 3:08 pm
Elessarina wrote:Pappa wrote:
I blame teh Jews!
I blame the Welsh
Damn you English!!!!
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by Azathoth » Wed Aug 04, 2010 3:10 pm
I blame Darwin
Outside the ordered universe is that amorphous blight of nethermost confusion which blasphemes and bubbles at the center of all infinity—the boundless daemon sultan Azathoth, whose name no lips dare speak aloud, and who gnaws hungrily in inconceivable, unlighted chambers beyond time and space amidst the muffled, maddening beating of vile drums and the thin monotonous whine of accursed flutes.
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by Pappa » Wed Aug 04, 2010 3:13 pm
I blame Noah. Fucking bastard!

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by Tigger » Wed Aug 04, 2010 9:54 pm
Anot mad u truncat o a wor b toont: Sweepgen. FF :la
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