GM Produces the Volt!

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Re: GM Produces the Volt!

Post by Coito ergo sum » Thu Jul 29, 2010 1:26 pm

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Re: GM Produces the Volt!

Post by Robert_S » Thu Jul 29, 2010 5:23 pm

SUVs are the guidos of the road.
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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Re: GM Produces the Volt!

Post by Meekychuppet » Thu Jul 29, 2010 5:43 pm

Robert_S wrote:SUVs are the guidos of the road.
I'm noting that down for future reference.
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Re: GM Produces the Volt!

Post by Coito ergo sum » Thu Jul 29, 2010 6:07 pm

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The Mad Hatter wrote:Wow, you really do have to go to incredible lengths to justify it to yourself.
No. I just illustrate hypocrisy when I see it. And, it comes from the "green movement" in spades....
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Coito ergo sum wrote:
Meekychuppet wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:
The Mad Hatter wrote:Wow, you really do have to go to incredible lengths to justify it to yourself.
No. I just illustrate hypocrisy when I see it. And, it comes from the "green movement" in spades....
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Your latent rage was suggestive of a dry spell, but now you're dreaming about gay sex too?
Rum wrote:Does it occur to you that you have subscribed to the model of maleness you seem to be pushing in order to justify your innately hostile and aggressive nature? I have noticed it often and even wondered if it might be some sort of personality disorder. You should consider this possibility.

Rum wrote:Did I leave out being a twat? (With ref to your sig)
Things Rum has diagnosed me with to date: "personality disorder", autism, Aspergers.
eRvin wrote:People can see what a fucking freak you are. Have you not noticed all the disparaging comments you get?
rum wrote:What a cunt you are. Truly.

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Re: GM Produces the Volt!

Post by Coito ergo sum » Thu Jul 29, 2010 6:12 pm

Meekychuppet wrote:
Still not getting any eh?
I'm probably not "green" enough. Chicks dig vegetarian Prius drivers. :biggrin:

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Post by drl2 » Thu Jul 29, 2010 6:15 pm

I normally don't spend a lot of time worrying about what the people around me choose to drive (or not to drive), but every once in a while I see some behavior that I find excessively annoying... like that one woman who, every year on Halloween, drives her 2 kids around trick-or-treating in a big Expedition/Suburban sized SUV. In our suburban neighborhood where the houses aren't exactly widely spaced, she'll pull up to a house and let the kids jump out and run up to do their thing while she idles on the street. Then the kids will get back into the SUV, covering about the same distance it would take to walk to the next house; she'll pull forward and repeat the process. :banghead:
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Re: GM Produces the Volt!

Post by Coito ergo sum » Thu Jul 29, 2010 6:16 pm

Meekychuppet wrote: Your latent rage was suggestive of a dry spell, but now you're dreaming about gay sex too?
LOL - isn't there someone out there doing something you don't approve of? They might be doing something you think is absurd. Quick, hurry, go display more of your smug sense of self-satisfaction.

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Re: GM Produces the Volt!

Post by Meekychuppet » Thu Jul 29, 2010 6:31 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:
Meekychuppet wrote: Your latent rage was suggestive of a dry spell, but now you're dreaming about gay sex too?
LOL - isn't there someone out there doing something you don't approve of? They might be doing something you think is absurd. Quick, hurry, go display more of your smug sense of self-satisfaction.
The troll fu is strong in this one. Provoking you is too easy.
Rum wrote:Does it occur to you that you have subscribed to the model of maleness you seem to be pushing in order to justify your innately hostile and aggressive nature? I have noticed it often and even wondered if it might be some sort of personality disorder. You should consider this possibility.

Rum wrote:Did I leave out being a twat? (With ref to your sig)
Things Rum has diagnosed me with to date: "personality disorder", autism, Aspergers.
eRvin wrote:People can see what a fucking freak you are. Have you not noticed all the disparaging comments you get?
rum wrote:What a cunt you are. Truly.

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Re: GM Produces the Volt!

Post by Coito ergo sum » Thu Jul 29, 2010 6:39 pm

Meekychuppet wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:
Meekychuppet wrote: Your latent rage was suggestive of a dry spell, but now you're dreaming about gay sex too?
LOL - isn't there someone out there doing something you don't approve of? They might be doing something you think is absurd. Quick, hurry, go display more of your smug sense of self-satisfaction.
The troll fu is strong in this one. Provoking you is too easy.

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Coming from the guy who busted a nut because of jokes about red haired people..... http://rationalia.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... 50#p423330 :yawn:

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Re: GM Produces the Volt!

Post by Meekychuppet » Thu Jul 29, 2010 6:49 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:
Meekychuppet wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:
Meekychuppet wrote: Your latent rage was suggestive of a dry spell, but now you're dreaming about gay sex too?
LOL - isn't there someone out there doing something you don't approve of? They might be doing something you think is absurd. Quick, hurry, go display more of your smug sense of self-satisfaction.
The troll fu is strong in this one. Provoking you is too easy.

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Coming from the guy who busted a nut because of jokes about red haired people..... http://rationalia.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... 50#p423330 :yawn:
read the thread, it was the kicking.

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Rum wrote:Does it occur to you that you have subscribed to the model of maleness you seem to be pushing in order to justify your innately hostile and aggressive nature? I have noticed it often and even wondered if it might be some sort of personality disorder. You should consider this possibility.

Rum wrote:Did I leave out being a twat? (With ref to your sig)
Things Rum has diagnosed me with to date: "personality disorder", autism, Aspergers.
eRvin wrote:People can see what a fucking freak you are. Have you not noticed all the disparaging comments you get?
rum wrote:What a cunt you are. Truly.

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Re: GM Produces the Volt!

Post by Kristie » Thu Jul 29, 2010 8:06 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote: I'm not the one who was telling people how to live. Fuck faces like you do that, with your snotty, smug bullshit about whether an SUV is "absurd" and such. That's why I was making the point that a fucking jerkoff who drives long distances each way to work in what he or she calls a "green" car has no business telling anyone what to drive.
It appears that you're crossing the line in this post by insulting 2 of the members here. Watch your step please.
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Post by Azathoth » Thu Jul 29, 2010 8:17 pm

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Post by Coito ergo sum » Thu Jul 29, 2010 8:54 pm

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Re: GM Produces the Volt!

Post by Coito ergo sum » Thu Jul 29, 2010 9:17 pm

On a serious note, does anyone know the per mile cost of charging the Volt's battery?

I really do, as I mentioned in the OP, like the idea of electric cars. They offer a lot of potential speed and acceleration. Plus, they're quiet, and I believe they would be more reliable because there would be fewer parts.

The problem that I see is that you can't go very far on the battery - 40 miles is jack squat. And, it takes hours to recharge. So, people will wind up tooling around on the gas engine in the thing anyway. They need a 300-400 mile battery and capacitor technology to allow fast charging.

In addition, there is the question of cost. I would like to know what the Volt would cost me per mile. It would be nice to have a commuter car I could go back and forth to work with, but if it costs $3.00 a mile, then no thanks.

That will also become a long term issue. If we stop buying gasoline in large numbers and start tapping into the electrical grid, then the demand for electricity will raise the price (naturally) of electricity. It has to, or people will just overload the grid. We need more electrical power generation capacity.

It doesn't make any sense to use coal or oil power plants, because you lose like 70% of the energy in burning the fossil fuel, converting it to electrical power and then transporting it over miles of power lines. It would be better for the environment just to burn gasoline in the car. We need nuclear. Without it, we can't generate enough electricity for this to work. It's just not feasible.

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