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Re: 92,000 classified military documents leaked

Post by sandinista » Tue Jul 27, 2010 7:32 pm

How so?
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Re: 92,000 classified military documents leaked

Post by kiki5711 » Tue Jul 27, 2010 7:35 pm

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The secrecy with the military and CIA is not so much about "strategy or tactics" as it is about not letting the public become aware of the dirty tricks and immoral acts which are committed. For a starter, for anyone interested, I would recommend "Killing Hope" by William Blum, just to scratch the surface of the lies, deceit and dirty business of war and covert actions.
I understand that, but I doubt very much that the other side is playing fair either. Blowing yourself up among unsuspected bystanders or soldiers is hardly anything making sense.
So, now the US and Canaduh want to behave like the other side? It's a race to the bottom?
I'd like to live in a "war free" world just as much as anyone else, but I don't remember if that was EVER the case in human history.
Did you see the move "300"? They had an incredible strategy to fight their enemies. Strategy gets more sophisticated as years move on, so more sophisticated angles are required.

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Re: 92,000 classified military documents leaked

Post by Coito ergo sum » Tue Jul 27, 2010 7:42 pm

sandinista wrote:How so?
Because your posts are such that it appears you think US is worse than totalitarian regimes.

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Re: 92,000 classified military documents leaked

Post by sandinista » Tue Jul 27, 2010 8:08 pm

kiki5711 wrote:
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kiki5711 wrote:
The secrecy with the military and CIA is not so much about "strategy or tactics" as it is about not letting the public become aware of the dirty tricks and immoral acts which are committed. For a starter, for anyone interested, I would recommend "Killing Hope" by William Blum, just to scratch the surface of the lies, deceit and dirty business of war and covert actions.
I understand that, but I doubt very much that the other side is playing fair either. Blowing yourself up among unsuspected bystanders or soldiers is hardly anything making sense.
So, now the US and Canaduh want to behave like the other side? It's a race to the bottom?
I'd like to live in a "war free" world just as much as anyone else, but I don't remember if that was EVER the case in human history.
Did you see the move "300"? They had an incredible strategy to fight their enemies. Strategy gets more sophisticated as years move on, so more sophisticated angles are required.
Defeatism. I, personally, think humanity can get beyond things such as war. We've progressed in other ways and I see no reason why more progression isn't possible. Believe me, I agree with you to a certain extent, like saying "ahhh fuck it, we'll always have religion, war, borders, rape, inequality etc because humans suck" but then I figure, what the point. If thats what we all believe than might as well stop fighting for any causes whatsoever and give in. If people in the past said that we'd all be in chains except for the rich and powerful.
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Re: 92,000 classified military documents leaked

Post by sandinista » Tue Jul 27, 2010 8:09 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:
sandinista wrote:How so?
Because your posts are such that it appears you think US is worse than totalitarian regimes.
What do you mean by "worse"?
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Post by Trolldor » Tue Jul 27, 2010 8:09 pm

We are in chains to the rich and the powerful.
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Post by sandinista » Tue Jul 27, 2010 8:13 pm

I meant literally, like literally in chains.
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Re: 92,000 classified military documents leaked

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Tue Jul 27, 2010 8:33 pm

sandinista wrote: :hehe: yah, when the "bad guys" come to town.
September 11, 2001. The bad guys came to town.

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Re: 92,000 classified military documents leaked

Post by sandinista » Tue Jul 27, 2010 8:38 pm

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sandinista wrote: :hehe: yah, when the "bad guys" come to town.
September 11, 2001. The bad guys came to town.

Fucking civilians.
If the true bad guys didn't instigate it, never would have happened. Know your enemy.

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Re: 92,000 classified military documents leaked

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Tue Jul 27, 2010 8:40 pm

sandinista wrote:
Gawdzilla wrote:
sandinista wrote: :hehe: yah, when the "bad guys" come to town.
September 11, 2001. The bad guys came to town.

Fucking civilians.
If the true bad guys didn't instigate it, never would have happened. Know your enemy.
Blame Abel, not Caine, eh. Fuck off.
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Re: 92,000 classified military documents leaked

Post by kiki5711 » Tue Jul 27, 2010 8:45 pm

sandinista wrote:
Gawdzilla wrote:
sandinista wrote: :hehe: yah, when the "bad guys" come to town.
September 11, 2001. The bad guys came to town.

Fucking civilians.
If the true bad guys didn't instigate it, never would have happened. Know your enemy.

what's your purpose with this video?

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Re: 92,000 classified military documents leaked

Post by sandinista » Tue Jul 27, 2010 8:51 pm

Gawdzilla wrote:
sandinista wrote:
Gawdzilla wrote:
sandinista wrote: :hehe: yah, when the "bad guys" come to town.
September 11, 2001. The bad guys came to town.

Fucking civilians.
If the true bad guys didn't instigate it, never would have happened. Know your enemy.
Blame Abel, not Caine, eh. Fuck off.
yah, like the states were just innocent bystanders minding their own business when they were attacked. :pawiz: yourself. eh.
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Re: 92,000 classified military documents leaked

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Tue Jul 27, 2010 8:52 pm

sandinista wrote:yah, like the states were just innocent bystanders minding their own business when they were attacked. :pawiz: yourself. eh.
Me and you should meet.
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Re: 92,000 classified military documents leaked

Post by sandinista » Tue Jul 27, 2010 8:55 pm

whats that? an internet threat? :roll: pathetic, what? you want to shoot me? :o fucking hell.
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Re: 92,000 classified military documents leaked

Post by Meekychuppet » Tue Jul 27, 2010 8:56 pm

Gawdzilla wrote:
sandinista wrote: :hehe: yah, when the "bad guys" come to town.
September 11, 2001. The bad guys came to town.

Fucking civilians.
If memory serves the heroes of 9/11 were firefighters. The job of the military was to prevent it. How'd that work out for you?

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