Most spectacular piece of historical revisionism in film.

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Re: Most spectacular piece of historical revisionism in film

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Mon May 10, 2010 12:34 am

Pappa wrote:I find Tolkein's story-telling technique to me infantile, almost patronising. I never felt there was any depth to it, no matter how much detail he put in.
It's Chauncerian, a veriable style of storytelling. However, it is English/Scots, so I can understand why you have a problem with it. :hehe:
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Re: Most spectacular piece of historical revisionism in film

Post by Pappa » Mon May 10, 2010 12:39 am

Gawdzilla wrote:
Pappa wrote:I find Tolkein's story-telling technique to me infantile, almost patronising. I never felt there was any depth to it, no matter how much detail he put in.
It's Chauncerian, a veriable style of storytelling. However, it is English/Scots, so I can understand why you have a problem with it. :hehe:
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Re: Most spectacular piece of historical revisionism in film

Post by virphen » Mon May 10, 2010 12:41 am

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Geoff wrote:LOTR - it was Glorfindel at the Ford of Bruinen, not Arwen, FFS! (and lots of other revisions!)
WHERE THE FUCK WAS TOM BOMBADIL?
WHERE WAS THE SCOURGING OF THE SHIRE?
Just as fucking well, Tom Bombadil would have made it totally crap. Unfilmable.

And with the scourging of the shire the film would never have ended.

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Re: Most spectacular piece of historical revisionism in film

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Mon May 10, 2010 12:47 am

virphen wrote:
Gawdzilla wrote:
Geoff wrote:LOTR - it was Glorfindel at the Ford of Bruinen, not Arwen, FFS! (and lots of other revisions!)
WHERE THE FUCK WAS TOM BOMBADIL?
WHERE WAS THE SCOURGING OF THE SHIRE?
Just as fucking well, Tom Bombadil would have made it totally crap. Unfilmable.
How so? Bombadil was immune to the ring. He lived outside the system that made it powerful.
And with the scourging of the shire the film would never have ended.
How so? With "extended versions" they could have put it on as an "extra" no problem. And it was the one time when it was ALL Hobbit, no humans except Wormtongue and only the one wizard, Saruman. The warrior Hobbits won their country back from the last dregs of the Shadow in Middle Earth.
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Re: Most spectacular piece of historical revisionism in film

Post by Animavore » Sun Jul 25, 2010 9:41 pm

Not a film but I'm watching Spartacus: Blood and Sand and I'm sure Romans were not circumcised.
I had to rewind it a couple of times to make sure that's what it was. Then I had to pause it and take out my own lad and size it up :hehe:
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Re: Most spectacular piece of historical revisionism in film

Post by Geoff » Sun Jul 25, 2010 11:10 pm

Animavore wrote:Not a film but I'm watching Spartacus: Blood and Sand and I'm sure Romans were not circumcised.
I had to rewind it a couple of times to make sure that's what it was. Then I had to pause it and take out my own lad and size it up :hehe:
It's a fairly poor series, but some of the "naughty" scenes are very well done... :hehe: (yeah, I fast-forward through the rest).
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Re: Most spectacular piece of historical revisionism in film

Post by macdoc » Mon Jul 26, 2010 12:52 am

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Re: Most spectacular piece of historical revisionism in film

Post by quisquose » Mon Jul 26, 2010 8:45 am

Gawdzilla wrote:Mel Gibson has three mentions, nobody else has two. Shall we reproduce his "exit scene" in Braveheart? :demon:
I think you're underestimating his 'abilities' there. I've counted four so far.

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Re: Most spectacular piece of historical revisionism in film

Post by Clinton Huxley » Mon Jul 26, 2010 8:58 am

Gawdzilla wrote:The Longest Day. French troops fighting. :hilarious:

How did I miss this? :hehe:
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Re: Most spectacular piece of historical revisionism in film

Post by Animavore » Mon Jul 26, 2010 8:59 am

quisquose wrote:
Gawdzilla wrote:Mel Gibson has three mentions, nobody else has two. Shall we reproduce his "exit scene" in Braveheart? :demon:
I think you're underestimating his 'abilities' there. I've counted four so far.
5 if you count Mad Max 2. The future doesn't happen like that.
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Re: Most spectacular piece of historical revisionism in film

Post by Clinton Huxley » Mon Jul 26, 2010 9:02 am

Revisionism with a movie series....

Highlander II. Took all that was good about Highlander and stomped on it with hob-naileed boots.

So, Sean Connery is an alien and not really a Spanio-Scottisher!

It made me cross.
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