Arab guilty of rape for falsely claiming to be a Jew.

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Arab guilty of rape for falsely claiming to be a Jew.

Post by Coito ergo sum » Wed Jul 21, 2010 1:00 pm

Arab guilty of rape after consensual sex with Jew
A man has been sentenced to 18 months in prison after telling a woman that he was also Jewish
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/ju ... al-sex-jew


This guy shouldn't be convicted.

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Post by Pappa » Wed Jul 21, 2010 1:07 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:
Arab guilty of rape after consensual sex with Jew
A man has been sentenced to 18 months in prison after telling a woman that he was also Jewish
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/ju ... al-sex-jew


This guy shouldn't be convicted.
Wow... how stupid is that?
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Re: Arab guilty of rape for falsely claiming to be a Jew.

Post by cowiz » Wed Jul 21, 2010 1:09 pm

Fucking hell I'd better hit the road and live my life as an outlaw. I've told bigger whoppers than that to get into a girls knickers.
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Post by Coito ergo sum » Wed Jul 21, 2010 1:18 pm

SockFuckit wrote:Fucking hell I'd better hit the road and live my life as an outlaw. I've told bigger whoppers than that to get into a girls knickers.
Rapist. :biggrin:

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Post by cowiz » Wed Jul 21, 2010 1:41 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:
SockFuckit wrote:Fucking hell I'd better hit the road and live my life as an outlaw. I've told bigger whoppers than that to get into a girls knickers.
Rapist. :biggrin:
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Post by Trolldor » Wed Jul 21, 2010 1:43 pm

Goddamnit, you always have to pay something don't you.
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Post by Coito ergo sum » Wed Jul 21, 2010 2:16 pm

Court rules sex through use of fraud is not rape
By Jonathan Saltzman, Globe Staff | May 11, 2007

A Hampden County man who allegedly tricked his brother's girlfriend into having sex with him by impersonating his sibling in the middle of the night cannot be convicted of rape, the state's highest court ruled yesterday in a controversial decision that affirms the court's long-held view that sex obtained through fraud is no crime.

The Supreme Judicial Court unanimously ruled that a judge should have dismissed the rape charge against Alvin Suliveres , 44, of Westfield, because Massachusetts law has for centuries defined rape as sexual intercourse by force and against one's will, and that it is not rape when consent is obtained through fraud.

If the Legislature wants to make sex through fraud qualify as rape, it should follow the lead of several other states -- including Alabama, California, Michigan, and Tennessee -- and change the law, the court said.

Brownlow M. Speer , a state public defender who represented Suliveres in the challenge, praised the ruling. His client, who has been free since his March 2006 trial ended in a hung jury, denies impersonating his brother and maintains that the sex was consensual.
http://www.boston.com/news/local/articl ... _not_rape/

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Post by lordpasternack » Wed Jul 21, 2010 11:48 pm

According to the guy, he never claimed to be Jewish, because he never even touched on the topic...
...according to Kashur, he did not pretend to be Jewish.

He told reporters that he is known by friends and family by the nickname Dudu, which is more commonly used by Jews called David.

He has been under house arrest for two years, he said.

"If I were Jewish, they wouldn't have even questioned me," the Haaretz newspaper quoted him as saying.

"That's not called rape, I didn't rape her in the forest and and throw her away naked. She agreed to everything that happened."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-10717186

I simply am aghast at how stupid and horrible and sectarian this is. As someone else pointed out, the same charge could be brought about by a woman discovering that the man is not really a natural blond or something - only it's more insidious... How downright disturbed in your mind do you have to be to have enjoyed consensual sex with someone, and suddenly be repulsed when you discover they're not from the right ethnic group/tribe for you? And to take that to the point of accusing said consensual partner of RAPE for not being clear about that upfront? Fuck off... :fp:

This is so galling:
In the court's ruling the judge, Zvi Segal, wrote: "If she had not thought the accused was a Jewish bachelor interested in a serious relationship, she would not have co-operated.

"The court is obliged to protect the public interest from sophisticated, smooth-tongued criminals who can deceive innocent victims at an unbearable price - the sanctity of their bodies and souls."
Yeah - if she'd known he was a stinkin' Arab... A stinkin' smooth-tongued deceiving criminal who deceives innocent young waifs like this - she wouldn't have gone ahead. Obviously she was really interested in serious relationships, and the sanctity of her body and soul and all that, and we need to protect that - and overlook those times here and there were she has those merry little fucks with men she met the same day (and later accuses of rape if she subsequently finds objectionable)...
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Post by Weston » Thu Jul 22, 2010 1:56 am

Arab penis in Jewish vagina is rape says Jewish judge.
Would he consider Jewish penis in Arab vagina to be rape?

Somehow, I doubt it.

There was a time when and a place where black penis in white vagina was automatically rape and white penis in black vagina just a bit of fun.

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Re: Arab guilty of rape for falsely claiming to be a Jew.

Post by Robert_S » Thu Jul 22, 2010 10:50 am

Coito ergo sum wrote:
Court rules sex through use of fraud is not rape
By Jonathan Saltzman, Globe Staff | May 11, 2007

A Hampden County man who allegedly tricked his brother's girlfriend into having sex with him by impersonating his sibling in the middle of the night cannot be convicted of rape, the state's highest court ruled yesterday in a controversial decision that affirms the court's long-held view that sex obtained through fraud is no crime.

The Supreme Judicial Court unanimously ruled that a judge should have dismissed the rape charge against Alvin Suliveres , 44, of Westfield, because Massachusetts law has for centuries defined rape as sexual intercourse by force and against one's will, and that it is not rape when consent is obtained through fraud.

If the Legislature wants to make sex through fraud qualify as rape, it should follow the lead of several other states -- including Alabama, California, Michigan, and Tennessee -- and change the law, the court said.

Brownlow M. Speer , a state public defender who represented Suliveres in the challenge, praised the ruling. His client, who has been free since his March 2006 trial ended in a hung jury, denies impersonating his brother and maintains that the sex was consensual.
http://www.boston.com/news/local/articl ... _not_rape/
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Re: Arab guilty of rape for falsely claiming to be a Jew.

Post by Coito ergo sum » Thu Jul 22, 2010 12:15 pm

Weston wrote:Arab penis in Jewish vagina is rape says Jewish judge.
Would he consider Jewish penis in Arab vagina to be rape?

Somehow, I doubt it.

There was a time when and a place where black penis in white vagina was automatically rape and white penis in black vagina just a bit of fun.
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Post by The Dawktor » Thu Jul 22, 2010 1:00 pm

:shock: ... just.... :shock:
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Post by Beatsong » Thu Jul 22, 2010 11:14 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:
Court rules sex through use of fraud is not rape
By Jonathan Saltzman, Globe Staff | May 11, 2007

... If the Legislature wants to make sex through fraud qualify as rape, it should follow the lead of several other states -- including Alabama, California, Michigan, and Tennessee -- and change the law, the court said...
http://www.boston.com/news/local/articl ... _not_rape/
This must surely have something to do with Israeli law? The part above suggests that some American states recognise the concept of "rape by deception" while others don't. Presumeably Israeli law does?

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Post by Gawd » Fri Jul 23, 2010 5:03 am

Sadly, this is just one case in the ocean of Jews discriminating against Arabs in Israel. This stuff happens every day, only you guys ignore it.

BTW, shouldn't this thread be in my sub-forum?

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Re: Arab guilty of rape for falsely claiming to be a Jew.

Post by Pappa » Fri Jul 23, 2010 8:18 am

The boston.com link that CES posted mentions that several US states, including "Alabama, California, Michigan, and Tennessee" do define sex obtained via deception as rape, while most states do not. If rape by deception is illegal under Israeli law, and the Palestinian man is indeed guilty of rape by deception... then it follows he should be sent to prison for that crime.

We all have laws we don't like, but we have to submit to them or choose to risk the penalties. :dono:
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