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Please deposit evidence for the non-existence of god here.


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Define/describe "god" in such a way as all theists and deists agree with your definition, and we'll get cracking on that.Pappa wrote:Please deposit evidence for the non-existence of god here.
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We'll ignore the deists and use RD's definition of theism from TGD.Thinking Aloud wrote:Define/describe "god" in such a way as all theists and deists agree with your definition, and we'll get cracking on that.Pappa wrote:Please deposit evidence for the non-existence of god here.

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1. Gods have not been demonstrated to exist.Pappa wrote:Please deposit evidence for the non-existence of god here.
2. Nothing in the universe discovered so far requires any gods in order to function.
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God told me he doesn't exist.
It's a piece of piss to be cowiz, but it's not cowiz to be a piece of piss. Or something like that.
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I'm sorry, negative evidence is not allowed.Coito ergo sum wrote:1. Gods have not been demonstrated to exist.Pappa wrote:Please deposit evidence for the non-existence of god here.
2. Nothing in the universe discovered so far requires any gods in order to function.

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How do you know there is not an evil or non-caring god?Ayaan wrote:
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Why not? Absence of evidence for the existence of something is generally a reason to refrain from concluding that something exists.Pappa wrote:I'm sorry, negative evidence is not allowed.Coito ergo sum wrote:1. Gods have not been demonstrated to exist.Pappa wrote:Please deposit evidence for the non-existence of god here.
2. Nothing in the universe discovered so far requires any gods in order to function.
But, if it's positive evidence you seek, well, I google-Earthed Mt. Olympus and there were no gods there.
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God clearly exists in many people's experience, so I suppose you mean exist in the scientific sense. I guess you'd have to explain why god appears in our experience, if it does not in fact exist.Pappa wrote:Please deposit evidence for the non-existence of god here.
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Proof for the non-existence of God is founded on pure logic. Douglas Adams illustrated it best.
- Now it is such a bizarrely improbably coincidence that anything so mindbogglingly useful [the Babel fish] could have evolved by chance that some thinkers have chosen to see it as a final and clinching proof of the non-existence of God.
The argument goes something like this: "I refuse to prove that I exist," says God, "for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing."
"But," says Man, "the Babel fish is a dead giveaway isn't it? It could not have evolved by chance. It proves you exist, and so therefore, by your own arguments, you don't. QED"
"Oh dear," says God, "I hadn't thought of that," and promptly vanishes in a puff of logic.
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I'm feeling a real lack of proof in this thread.
Surely you can do better.

Surely you can do better.
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Not fair. I haven't read it. You'll either have to lend me a copy, or give a summary.Pappa wrote:We'll ignore the deists and use RD's definition of theism from TGD.Thinking Aloud wrote:Define/describe "god" in such a way as all theists and deists agree with your definition, and we'll get cracking on that.Pappa wrote:Please deposit evidence for the non-existence of god here.
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Basically....mistermack wrote:Not fair. I haven't read it. You'll either have to lend me a copy, or give a summary.Pappa wrote:We'll ignore the deists and use RD's definition of theism from TGD.Thinking Aloud wrote:Define/describe "god" in such a way as all theists and deists agree with your definition, and we'll get cracking on that.Pappa wrote:Please deposit evidence for the non-existence of god here.
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Theism is defined as belief in a god like the god of Abrahamic religions. He is a god who actively brings the universe into being and is looking over it.
Deism covers the concept of god as a kind of force of nature. Completely non-personified.
Those who've read it... would that be a fair precis?
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