The NHS and other departments like Education are essential for the overall well being of the nation.Pensioner wrote:I have never had a major operation and I don’t see why my taxes should be used for those that need one.
I thoroughly disagree with that. For all it's faults, the BBC is still a fantastic public service broadcaster. They make some of the best TV in the world and they do it for a fair price.devogue wrote:The BBC is an expensive luxury.
The BBC is not nearly as expensive as the "free"-to-air channels and stations you don't even realise you are paying for.devogue wrote:The BBC is an expensive luxury.
Hits nail on head with that post mate.Seraph wrote:What? Are you trying to tell me that you can possibly survive in your environment by only buying products that are not advertised on the so-called "free to air" television channels or radio stations? Face up to it; you are paying for what is laughingly called "free to air" media whenever you buy a car, and when you fill it up with petrol. Even when you buy a product that is not specifically advertised, chances are that you buy it from a supermarket that marks up that product to cover its own advertising costs. Then there are computers. Do you own one that is not made by Apple and is not powered by an Intel CPU? What about your telephone connection?devogue wrote:Technically you are right - major companies factor in the cost of advertising on television in their budgets, a cost which is ultimately passed on to the consumer in the price they pay at the till for their products. However, by buying products which may be advertised on Sky or the Murdoch press I implicitly choose to accept the fact that Murdoch gets my money. If I was really bothered I would go to the trouble of finding out and boycotting all products which are advertised on Murdoch's TV interests or in The Murdoch press. In fact here's a list of Fox News Advertisers for 2010 - I'm sure there's a list of other Murdoch advertisers somewhere:Seraph wrote:Like fuck, you can. Where on earth do you think the money comes from that goes into running the "free" to air television channels and radio stations? You pay Murdoch every time you pay for your shopping.devogue wrote:I can choose not to pay Murdoch.Clinton Huxley wrote:So when Murdoch gives the public what they want (America's Next Teen Bounty Hunter or whatever), that's ok, but when the BBC does it, its the end of the world?
http://foxnewssucks.blogspot.com/2009/0 ... isers.html
My point is that even at that level the consumer has a choice - "Fuck it, I'm not going to buy Campbell's soup - I'll buy Heinz instead." With the BBC, the only choices are:
1) Pay your licence fee
2) Imprisonment
3) Don't own a TV
For crying out loud, surviving without buying goods that are advertised on the aforementioned "free" media is impossible in your environment and mine, so don't try to pull the wool over our eyes; like it or not, you, I and everybody else pays for the use of the so-called "free" media, and I bet the contribution amounts to way more than the piddling £145.50 per year.
As for your complaint that you don't avail yourself to the services you pay for, let me just point out that I don't listen to commercial radio and I don't watch commercial television either, but I am still paying for them every time I go shopping.
devogue wrote:Just FUCK OFF!!!!!
CuntPeople legally snoop to see if you have a TV. You have to explain why you have a TV. That you fucking paid for. For your own private fucking use.Pappa wrote:About paying a TV license - I know someone who had a TV but didn't use it. The TV licensing people came round to check. He showed them the TV and how he used it for playing PS2 games on. He even had an aerial socket only a couple of metres away from the TV. They were happy to allow him to continue on an annual basis to not pay the license fee.
No, they just check to see if you're telling the truth about not using it to watch TV.devogue wrote:People legally snoop to see if you have a TV. You have to explain why you have a TV. That you fucking paid for. For your own private fucking use.Pappa wrote:About paying a TV license - I know someone who had a TV but didn't use it. The TV licensing people came round to check. He showed them the TV and how he used it for playing PS2 games on. He even had an aerial socket only a couple of metres away from the TV. They were happy to allow him to continue on an annual basis to not pay the license fee.
It should be absolutely none of their fucking business. They have as much right to that information as they have to what cycle you run your washing machine on or what type of underwear you prefer.Pappa wrote:No, they just check to see if you're telling the truth about not using it to watch TV.devogue wrote:People legally snoop to see if you have a TV. You have to explain why you have a TV. That you fucking paid for. For your own private fucking use.Pappa wrote:About paying a TV license - I know someone who had a TV but didn't use it. The TV licensing people came round to check. He showed them the TV and how he used it for playing PS2 games on. He even had an aerial socket only a couple of metres away from the TV. They were happy to allow him to continue on an annual basis to not pay the license fee.
devogue wrote:It should be absolutely none of their fucking business. They have as much right to that information as they have to what cycle you run your washing machine on or what type of underwear you prefer.Pappa wrote:No, they just check to see if you're telling the truth about not using it to watch TV.devogue wrote:People legally snoop to see if you have a TV. You have to explain why you have a TV. That you fucking paid for. For your own private fucking use.Pappa wrote:About paying a TV license - I know someone who had a TV but didn't use it. The TV licensing people came round to check. He showed them the TV and how he used it for playing PS2 games on. He even had an aerial socket only a couple of metres away from the TV. They were happy to allow him to continue on an annual basis to not pay the license fee.
They should if there's a TV license.qed.Pappa wrote:devogue wrote:It should be absolutely none of their fucking business. They have as much right to that information as they have to what cycle you run your washing machine on or what type of underwear you prefer.Pappa wrote:No, they just check to see if you're telling the truth about not using it to watch TV.devogue wrote:People legally snoop to see if you have a TV. You have to explain why you have a TV. That you fucking paid for. For your own private fucking use.Pappa wrote:About paying a TV license - I know someone who had a TV but didn't use it. The TV licensing people came round to check. He showed them the TV and how he used it for playing PS2 games on. He even had an aerial socket only a couple of metres away from the TV. They were happy to allow him to continue on an annual basis to not pay the license fee.
Pappa wrote:About paying a TV license - I know someone who had a TV but didn't use it. The TV licensing people came round to check. He showed them the TV and how he used it for playing PS2 games on. He even had an aerial socket only a couple of metres away from the TV. They were happy to allow him to continue on an annual basis to not pay the license fee.
devogue wrote:qed.Pappa wrote:devogue wrote:It should be absolutely none of their fucking business. They have as much right to that information as they have to what cycle you run your washing machine on or what type of underwear you prefer.Pappa wrote:No, they just check to see if you're telling the truth about not using it to watch TV.devogue wrote:
People legally snoop to see if you have a TV. You have to explain why you have a TV. That you fucking paid for. For your own private fucking use.
WTF???Pappa wrote:About paying a TV license - I know someone who had a TV but didn't use it. The TV licensing people came round to check. He showed them the TV and how he used it for playing PS2 games on. He even had an aerial socket only a couple of metres away from the TV. They were happy to allow him to continue on an annual basis to not pay the license fee.
Well, as you are required to pay the TV License if you use a TV, they are entitled to check. You don't ever have to let them in, they have no right of entry, but they could fine you for not paying for a license if you don't provide some evidence that you don't use the set. They also have detector vans to catch out people who just don't pay a TV license but do watch TV.Charlou wrote:Sorry, butWTF???Pappa wrote:About paying a TV license - I know someone who had a TV but didn't use it. The TV licensing people came round to check. He showed them the TV and how he used it for playing PS2 games on. He even had an aerial socket only a couple of metres away from the TV. They were happy to allow him to continue on an annual basis to not pay the license fee.
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