Can Chavez get any more mental?

[RuleBritannia]

The Americans hate him and for that alone I love him. Viva Chávez!

[Posse Comitatus]

He's still a cunt.

[Coito ergo sum]

The Americans hate him and for that alone I love him. Viva Chávez!

Every Venezuelan I've met hates him. And, I have met many here in Florida.

It's only socialist wishful thinking that makes people who are safely tucked away in western parliamentary democracies support this crackpot.

[sandinista]

Right, because throwing political opponents in jail, and seizing television, radio and newspaper outfits is so non-dictatorial....as is doing away with term limits, rigging elections and seizing private property.

But, by all means, stick to your naivete. He is just such a good man, that he would never abuse his power.

Really? This has to be gone over....again. "Opponents" were "thrown in jail" for corruption charges, he never "seized" media outlets, he didn't renew a Television license because said station participated in a coup against the government along with other reasons, the media in Venezuela is as free, or more so than every other country in south america. Term limits?? Are you shitting me? What the fuck is wrong with getting rid of term limits? Rigging elections...never happened. By "seizing private property" do you mean nationalizing industry? Should be done globally. Can't believe people still take the US media seriously. wow.

[RuleBritannia]

The Americans hate him and for that alone I love him. Viva Chávez!

Every Venezuelan I've met hates him. And, I have met many here in Florida.

It's only socialist wishful thinking that makes people who are safely tucked away in western parliamentary democracies support this crackpot.

Yeah because a bunch of Venezuelans in Florida is obviously an unbiased sample.

[sandinista]

The Americans hate him and for that alone I love him. Viva Chávez!

Every Venezuelan I've met hates him. And, I have met many here in Florida.

It's only socialist wishful thinking that makes people who are safely tucked away in western parliamentary democracies support this crackpot.

Yeah because a bunch of Venezuelans in Florida is obviously an unbiased sample.

What do you mean, Venezuelans who left the country and the US media are biased toward a continent wide social movement? NEVER.

[Coito ergo sum]

Right, because throwing political opponents in jail, and seizing television, radio and newspaper outfits is so non-dictatorial....as is doing away with term limits, rigging elections and seizing private property.

But, by all means, stick to your naivete. He is just such a good man, that he would never abuse his power.

Really? This has to be gone over....again. "Opponents" were "thrown in jail" for corruption charges,

Bwwaahhahahahahahahhahaha! Right...

Like, how Guillermo Zuloaga had to flee the country in the face of a warrant alleging charges that a car dealership his family owns had hoarded automobiles. It just so happens Mr. Zuloaga owned one of the last few remaining television stations that was not under Chavez's control.

Previously, in March, 2010, Zuloaga was arrested for saying on a television show that the nation lacked freedom of expression. Because, obviously, Chavez is such a fan of freedom of expression that his government arrests people for saying that the nation lacks freedom of expression.

he never "seized" media outlets, he didn't renew a Television license because said station participated in a coup against the government

Maybe Chavez should arrest himself, since he participated in a coup against the government in 1992.....

along with other reasons, the media in Venezuela is as free, or more so than every other country in south america.

The media is all owned, controlled or intimidated by the government now. it's as free as Pravda was.

Chavez 'stifles Venezuelan media'

Media attack Chavez
Private media companies from across the Americas have accused Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez of stifling press freedom in his country.
Delegates at a meeting of the Inter- American Press Association in Caracas said Mr Chavez was using intimidation to curb criticism of his government.
They cited his threats to close down one of Venezuela's TV channels.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7321168.stm

Term limits?? Are you shitting me? What the fuck is wrong with getting rid of term limits?

He set it up so that he could remain as President indefinitely. He's got 11 years now and counting, and announced that he would celebrate 11 more. Those certainly aren't the words of a modern day Cincinnatus.

Rigging elections...never happened.

Why? Because Chavez said so?

Venezuela: Academics' Study Backs Fraud Claim In Chavez Election

David Luhnow And Jose De Cordoba, The Wall Street Journal
2004 September 07 - Two Venezuelan academics claim to have found statistical evidence of fraud in last month's referendum on President Hugo Chavez, fueling the opposition's claims of a rigged vote and raising the possibility that despite Mr. Chavez's victory, the country's tense standoff will continue.

The claims were made Sunday by Ricardo Hausmann, a professor at Harvard University's John F. Kennedy School of Government and former chief economist at the Inter-American Development Bank, and Roberto Rigobon, a professor of applied economics at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology's Sloan School of Management.

The pair issued a report that tried to measure the possibility that the vote was clean using two separate analyses of the official results. In both cases, they said, the chances of a clean vote were less than one in 100.

http://vcrisis.com/index.php?content=le ... 0409080559

By "seizing private property" do you mean nationalizing industry? Should be done globally.

Not in a free world.

Can't believe people still take the US media seriously. wow.

One need not rely on the US media, as my citation to the BBC news above illustrates.

But, let's see your news sources. Let me guess...."truthout" -- "alternet" ....oh, by all means....cite your sources.

[Coito ergo sum]

The Americans hate him and for that alone I love him. Viva Chávez!

Every Venezuelan I've met hates him. And, I have met many here in Florida.

It's only socialist wishful thinking that makes people who are safely tucked away in western parliamentary democracies support this crackpot.

Yeah because a bunch of Venezuelans in Florida is obviously an unbiased sample.

No sample is unbiased.

At least I have a sample, and a sample of people that have actually lived there. But, by all means, keep spouting opinions based on zero. Oh, no wait - you did tell us your opinion was based on something. You like Chavez because the US is against him. That's much better, and much less biased.....

[RuleBritannia]

u hu whatever

[Coito ergo sum]

The Americans hate him and for that alone I love him. Viva Chávez!

Every Venezuelan I've met hates him. And, I have met many here in Florida.

It's only socialist wishful thinking that makes people who are safely tucked away in western parliamentary democracies support this crackpot.

Yeah because a bunch of Venezuelans in Florida is obviously an unbiased sample.

What do you mean, Venezuelans who left the country and the US media are biased toward a continent wide social movement? NEVER.

But, those that support Chavez are not biased..... nooooo nooo....and "European media" is fair and completely unbiased....

Should we still wait for your citations of the unbiased non-American news sources that you would like everyone to refer to from now on? I'd love to see it. Maybe it's one of Chavez's own media outlets, or the ones he threatened? Which news sources ought we be following....

3-2-1.....wait for the "...if you don't know about the real, unbiased, non-American news sources, I'm not going to stoop to naming them...." answer....

[Robert_S]

I think the BBC might possibly have some bias around South America.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8584199.stm

That particular translation has overtones of tea party.

[Robert_S]

The Americans hate him and for that alone I love him. Viva Chávez!

Every Venezuelan I've met hates him. And, I have met many here in Florida.

It's only socialist wishful thinking that makes people who are safely tucked away in western parliamentary democracies support this crackpot.

Yeah because a bunch of Venezuelans in Florida is obviously an unbiased sample.

No sample is unbiased.

At least I have a sample, and a sample of people that have actually lived there. But, by all means, keep spouting opinions based on zero. Oh, no wait - you did tell us your opinion was based on something. You like Chavez because the US is against him. That's much better, and much less biased.....

Pat Robertson thought we ought to assassinate him, he can't be as bad as your sources say.

[Coito ergo sum]

u hu whatever

Exhibit A --

The Americans hate him and for that alone I love him. Viva Chávez!

Much less biased than people who can actually bring a lifetime of experience in Venezuela to bear on the issue. Of course, Chavez must be benign and benevolent, and honest in all things, and Venezuelans who moved to the US must always be biased and untrustworthy.

[Coito ergo sum]

I think the BBC might possibly have some bias around South America.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8584199.stm

That particular translation has overtones of tea party.

By all means, provide the good sources then.

Educate me.

[sandinista]

haha, your seriously asking me to cite a source when you link to Vcrisis?

watch this if you want to hear from some people who actually spent some time in Latin America with the leaders.