Court Backs Schwarzenegger Cutting Worker Pay to Min Wage

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Court Backs Schwarzenegger Cutting Worker Pay to Min Wage

Post by Bella Fortuna » Fri Jul 02, 2010 8:56 pm

As one of the people to be affected by this.... *gulp* :?
Court backs Schwarzenegger wage order
By Jon Ortiz
Published: Friday, Jul. 2, 2010 - 11:58 am

The 3rd District Court of Appeal has upheld a 17-month-old ruling allowing Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger to reduce state workers to minimum wage in the absence of a budget.

The court, agreeing with a Sacramento Superior Court ruling, said State Controller John Chiang overstepped his authority by refusing to issue minimum-wage paychecks to state workers during the 2008 budget impasse.

The decision, published just moments ago, comes the day after Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger's Department of Personnel Administration gave Chiang the same pay reduction instructions the controller rejected two years ago.

Chiang's office has not said whether it will appeal to the state Supreme Court. If the ruling stands and no appeal is filed, Chiang will be hard pressed to refuse to follow Schwarzenegger's minimum wage ruling this year.

The governor's pay order was triggered by lawmakers' failure to enact a budget before the July 1 start of the fiscal year.

With no budget in place that appropriates money for wages, the state can withhold what it pays employees to the least amount allowed by federal standards, which is $7.25 per hour for most of the 240,000 workers subject to the law. The withheld money would be issued once legislators and the governor agreed on a budget with payroll appropriated.

"We ... conclude the DPA has the authority to direct the Controller to defer salary payments in excess of federally-mandated minimum wages when appropriations for the salaries are lacking due to a budget impasse, because the Legislature created DPA to 'manage the nonmerit aspects of the state's personnel system" and vested DPA with jurisdiction with respect to 'the administration of salaries' and 'other personnel-related matters,'" the appellate court said in its decision.

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Governor puts 200,000 state workers on minimum wage
By Jon Ortiz
Published: Friday, Jul. 2, 2010 - 12:00 am | Page 1A

Roughly 200,000 state workers will receive minimum wage paychecks next month under terms of an order issued Thursday by the Schwarzenegger administration.

According to a letter delivered to Controller John Chiang in late afternoon, July pay for most hourly state employees will be withheld to the minimum allowed by federal law – $7.25 an hour – and then restored once there's a budget.

Chiang, whose office cuts state paychecks, said Thursday that he won't follow the order unless a court tells him to.

The letter from the governor's Department of Personnel Administration instructs Chiang to withhold employees' pay because the state started the 2010-11 fiscal year Thursday without a budget appropriating money for payroll. Hours earlier, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger officially ended 17 months of furloughs for state workers.

The minimum-wage order exempts roughly 37,000 state workers in the six bargaining units that have tentatively agreed to labor deals.

The administration insists the order is a matter of law and not politics, but it puts more pressure on the remaining six unions that haven't agreed to the pension and pay concessions Schwarzenegger wants in exchange for an exclusion from minimum wage.

"Regrettably, we must take the steps outlined in the attached pay letter to adjust wages and salaries during this budget impasse," Personnel Administration Director Debbie Endsley said in a letter accompanying the pay withholding instructions.

The administration declined further comment.

Chiang, who has appealed the lawsuit he lost for refusing to comply two years ago with similar instructions, called the minimum wage order "political tricks" that he will resist.

"Again, absent a final court ruling, I will continue to protect the state's finances and pay full wages earned by state employees," Chiang said in a statement Thursday evening.

Bruce Blanning, executive director of the 11,000-member Professional Engineers in California Government, slammed Schwarzenegger's order.

"It appears that the governor has taken a constitutional budget issue and reduced it to a bargaining ploy," Blanning said. "He's saying that if you're one of the six groups that have signed a contract, if you've agreed to a contract with him, then you get your salary. If you didn't, he wants you to get minimum wage."

Schwarzenegger is invoking a 2003 state Supreme Court decision as grounds for the order. The ruling in White v. Davis held that without a state budget with money appropriated for payroll, wages can be withheld to the federal minimum. Back pay would be issued once a budget is enacted.

The threat of minimum wage has prodded several unions into contract talks with Schwarzenegger. Last month six unions – representing doctors, highway patrol officers, firefighters and psychiatric technicians, equipment operators, and health and social service professionals – tentatively agreed to pacts lowering retirement benefits for new state hires and increasing what all their members will pay into their pensions.

Reducing the state's cost for pension benefits has been a policy centerpiece for Schwarzenegger. In exchange for those concessions, he promised the six unions that they would be shielded from minimum wage.

When the administration issued similar pay instructions during a 2008 budget impasse, Chiang refused to comply over concerns that doing so would violate federal law. He also asserted that the decades-old computerized payroll system couldn't handle changing pay for the 240,000 or so state workers affected by the governor's instruction.

The administration sued Chiang and eventually won in early 2009. By then a budget was in place, so the governor's order was moot.

Chiang appealed the decision. Sacramento's 3rd District Court of Appeal heard oral arguments June 21 and could issue a decision any day.

State workers such as Kathleen Jennings have felt trapped in the political, legal and labor crossfire for more than a year.

A Fairfield-based scientist with the Department of Fish and Game, Jennings has already endured furloughs that cost her the equivalent of 46 days of pay. A month of minimum-wage pay would be devastating, she said.

"I took on a second job teaching part time because I couldn't make ends meet on what I made from my state job," Jennings said. "I'm a single parent with two kids in college. Now what?"

Many state workers are likely in the same position, said Jeff Michael, director of the Business Forecasting Center at the University of the Pacific in Stockton.

"The impact of putting state workers on minimum wage for even one month would be much larger than two years ago," Michael said. "Many of them have depleted their savings or exhausted their ability to borrow and cushion themselves from even a short-run change in their income."

The impact on the Sacramento region, where roughly one in 10 wage earners works for the state, is unknown, Michael said.

"We don't have a historical precedent," he said. "But for a lot of people, this would be a massive decline that they couldn't get around by borrowing or tapping savings."

If the governor's order is implemented, some employees, such as doctors and lawyers, would get no pay because federal law exempts them from minimum wage rules. Others who don't get overtime would receive a flat $455 per week.

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Post by maiforpeace » Fri Jul 02, 2010 9:02 pm

The minimum-wage order exempts roughly 37,000 state workers in the six bargaining units that have tentatively agreed to labor deals.
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Post by Bella Fortuna » Fri Jul 02, 2010 9:08 pm

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The minimum-wage order exempts roughly 37,000 state workers in the six bargaining units that have tentatively agreed to labor deals.
Are you in this group?
No, I'm not represented by a union.
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Post by Mr Anderson » Fri Jul 02, 2010 9:31 pm

This isn't going to save any money, just delay the payment, or am I missing something?
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Post by Bella Fortuna » Fri Jul 02, 2010 9:33 pm

Mr Anderson wrote:This isn't going to save any money, just delay the payment, or am I missing something?
Nope, that's right. And throw thousands of people into a quandary while their paychecks shrink to nothing yet they still have to pay mortgages etc.
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Post by Mr Anderson » Fri Jul 02, 2010 9:43 pm

Have the mortgage companies made any comments about how they will react to the situation as they must also be aware it's happening.?
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Post by Bella Fortuna » Fri Jul 02, 2010 9:53 pm

Mr Anderson wrote:Have the mortgage companies made any comments about how they will react to the situation as they must also be aware it's happening.?
The decision quite literally came down just a few hours ago, so not that I'm aware of. The housing market where I am (and will probably be the most affected as 1 out of 10 are state employees here) has collapsed in the past 5 years or so, yet I imagine lenders won't be any more forgiving than usual.
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Bella Fortuna wrote:
Mr Anderson wrote:Have the mortgage companies made any comments about how they will react to the situation as they must also be aware it's happening.?
The decision quite literally came down just a few hours ago, so not that I'm aware of. The housing market where I am (and will probably be the most affected as 1 out of 10 are state employees here) has collapsed in the past 5 years or so, yet I imagine lenders won't be any more forgiving than usual.
I thought that you lived in a free market? This is a huge opportunity for quick fix short term loans and the banks must be hunting for public employees that are proprty owners, you must be the very opposite of sub-prime. Have you been in your job/property long or doesn't that matter?
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Post by Bella Fortuna » Fri Jul 02, 2010 11:03 pm

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Mr Anderson wrote:Have the mortgage companies made any comments about how they will react to the situation as they must also be aware it's happening.?
The decision quite literally came down just a few hours ago, so not that I'm aware of. The housing market where I am (and will probably be the most affected as 1 out of 10 are state employees here) has collapsed in the past 5 years or so, yet I imagine lenders won't be any more forgiving than usual.
I thought that you lived in a free market? This is a huge opportunity for quick fix short term loans and the banks must be hunting for public employees that are proprty owners, you must be the very opposite of sub-prime. Have you been in your job/property long or doesn't that matter?
I just bought my house this past February. :cry:

Actually, it's harder for people to get loans now, or so my realtor told me when I was buying my place. There have been loads of defaults and foreclosures and things and banks are not just lending to anyone like they did a few years ago.
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Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Sat Jul 03, 2010 1:04 am

So what's the reasoning behind this? Is it a tactic to force somebody to enact a budget? Who would that be - the state legislature, or the national? And whoever it is, isn't this political suicide for Arnie? Punishing a huge swathe of his voters to make a political point?

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Post by Bella Fortuna » Sat Jul 03, 2010 2:26 am

Xamonas Chegwé wrote:So what's the reasoning behind this? Is it a tactic to force somebody to enact a budget? Who would that be - the state legislature, or the national? And whoever it is, isn't this political suicide for Arnie? Punishing a huge swathe of his voters to make a political point?

Or am I missing something here? :dono:
He probably thinks it's a tactic, but it doesn't save any money - if anything it'll cost more because not only will they have to reimburse us, but they'll probably incur overtime as payroll folks have to figure out how to enact this. In the meantime people already stretched thin and with depleted savings have to struggle to pay their mortgages and things.
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Post by maiforpeace » Sat Jul 03, 2010 3:10 am

Bella Fortuna wrote:
Xamonas Chegwé wrote:So what's the reasoning behind this? Is it a tactic to force somebody to enact a budget? Who would that be - the state legislature, or the national? And whoever it is, isn't this political suicide for Arnie? Punishing a huge swathe of his voters to make a political point?

Or am I missing something here? :dono:
He probably thinks it's a tactic, but it doesn't save any money - if anything it'll cost more because not only will they have to reimburse us, but they'll probably incur overtime as payroll folks have to figure out how to enact this. In the meantime people already stretched thin and with depleted savings have to struggle to pay their mortgages and things.
I heard in a newscast that the comptroller (or the guy who cuts the checks?) was going to appeal this because they weren't prepared to enact the changes. :dono:

Regardless, this is totally scary for many people, you being one of them. I'm really sorry you have to worry about this. :console: Oh, nice they told you right before the July 4 holiday. :roll:
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Post by Gawd » Sat Jul 03, 2010 3:18 am

I bet Arnold could use a drip of that sweet ass Middle East & War Money.

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Post by Martok » Mon Jul 05, 2010 5:20 pm

I think politicians should show solidarity with their constituents and cut their own pay as well.

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Post by maiforpeace » Mon Jul 05, 2010 5:49 pm

Martok wrote:I think politicians should show solidarity with their constituents and cut their own pay as well.
I give credit to Schwartzenegger because he does that - he doesn't take a penny of his $200K + salary.
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