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by Bella Fortuna » Fri Jun 25, 2010 7:57 pm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Newdow
I always hear him and his litigation efforts to remove references to god from American institutions/currency/etc. described as petty, focused on unimportant details and having 'too much time on his hands.' Fellow atheists seem to find him irritating too.
Any thoughts on him and what he focuses on?
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by AshtonBlack » Fri Jun 25, 2010 8:14 pm
Meh.
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by Bella Fortuna » Fri Jun 25, 2010 8:17 pm
AshtonBlack wrote:Meh.
Stop, this heated debate is polarising us all!
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by Robert_S » Fri Jun 25, 2010 8:25 pm
I'm glad he's doing what he's doing.
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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by charlou » Sat Jun 26, 2010 1:09 am
I don't know who he is but I approve of his efforts as you describe them. Why do 'fellow atheists' find him irritating?
Maybe I should just read the provided link   |
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by Bella Fortuna » Sat Jun 26, 2010 1:32 am
I've heard other atheists say he focuses on the symptom rather than the cause, that his efforts are petty and such. I think there are different ways of approaching achieving a more secular society - he does some of the grunt-work that no one else wants to take time to do.
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by Hermit » Sat Jun 26, 2010 5:35 am
Bella Fortuna wrote:I've heard other atheists say he focuses on the symptom rather than the cause, that his efforts are petty and such. I think there are different ways of approaching achieving a more secular society - he does some of the grunt-work that no one else wants to take time to do.
Symptoms can become causes. That exhortation on every US coin and bank note (IN GOD WE TRUST), for example, is more than a symptom; it also acts as a mantra by dint of sheer repetition, even to those who are not even consciously aware of it any more. It's just one of many brainwashing devices that are wrongfully ignored as "mere symptoms".
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by RappingAgnostic » Sat Jun 26, 2010 8:43 am
AshtonBlack wrote:Meh.
I would say the same but I'm just too apathetic to type it out.
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by AnInconvenientScotsman » Sat Jun 26, 2010 11:17 am
lol..."Newd"
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