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Re: Simple Mafia 3 - Day 2

Post by higgs2 » Sun Jun 20, 2010 1:49 pm

It is possible that there is no seer in this game. There could be a vig and a doc only. Last game we only had 2 specials.

And it was a vig, oblivion said nothing about indie roles iirc.
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Re: Simple Mafia 3 - Day 2

Post by higgs2 » Sun Jun 20, 2010 1:51 pm

Of course we can wifom that to death. An option is to lynch ghat and if she is town take out animavore tonight.

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Re: Simple Mafia 3 - Day 2

Post by Zigmen » Sun Jun 20, 2010 1:58 pm

There are some alternative longshots here:

1) Anim might be a paranoid seer. I would not expect this role in a teaching game, though. This role views everyone as scum, and it is fairly easily tested.

2) Anim might be scum trying to get our seer to out his role. It's poor strategy for a scum team, but it is possible. I think it is safe to ask our seer to counterclaim since the Don is already dead and town is at a huge advantage.

3) Anim might be town but also lying. This is a martyr move designed to keep scum off our seer. Vanilla townies will sometimes falsely claim for that purpose. This plan almost always backfires, but Anim might not have known why the plan wouldn't work.

Today will not yield much in the way of discussion, which is why I'm happy we had long discussions yesterday. Scum likely tried to stay under the radar if they were smart, and possibly split their votes up a bit.

I suggest we all reread day one and look for more clues, especially now that we can rely on the knowledge of who was scum, and who was town in retrospect.
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Re: Simple Mafia 3 - Day 2

Post by Zigmen » Sun Jun 20, 2010 2:02 pm

higgs2 wrote:It is possible that there is no seer in this game. There could be a vig and a doc only. Last game we only had 2 specials.

And it was a vig, oblivion said nothing about indie roles iirc.
Yup. If there is no seer, and Anim is lying, our Vig/SK will likely kill him tonight. If not, we lynch him tomorrow.

Again, this would be a pretty awful gambit for scum, but we'll see.
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Re: Simple Mafia 3 - Day 2

Post by higgs2 » Sun Jun 20, 2010 2:04 pm

Possible, but longshots.

He's either the seer or scum and lying.

The second is less likely because he couldn't know in advance that we have no seer (if indeed we do).
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Re: Simple Mafia 3 - Day 2

Post by Animavore » Sun Jun 20, 2010 2:05 pm

Shouldn't the vig only have one shot? Seems to few to have a serial killer.

:what:

Anyway. A scum lie in a game with so few people is not a good idea. Ghat could be the vigi I suppose :ask:
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Re: Simple Mafia 3 - Day 2

Post by higgs2 » Sun Jun 20, 2010 2:05 pm

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Re: Simple Mafia 3 - Day 2

Post by Animavore » Sun Jun 20, 2010 2:05 pm

I meant "too" above.
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Re: Simple Mafia 3 - Day 2

Post by higgs2 » Sun Jun 20, 2010 2:06 pm

Vig get's one shot a night. I am assuming the other kill is scum kill.
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Re: Simple Mafia 3 - Day 2

Post by Azathoth » Sun Jun 20, 2010 2:09 pm

I'm not a viggie. I'm just vanilla town as you will see when I get lynched. I suggest you all vote for me to prove it
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Re: Simple Mafia 3 - Day 2

Post by Zigmen » Sun Jun 20, 2010 2:20 pm

Now that we know Useless was scum, let's look at a few key things he said yesterday:
I think magic is just being magic.
Feck is being very quiet and not his usual "look at me I'm so innocent I can act like scum" self.
Magic is actually posting way above normal, not sure if this is a new strategy for him, or if he just has a hell of a lot of time today.
and DP actually did the "i'm the only one I can trust as mayor" tell.
Right now, I'm going with

vote feck
Ghat always votes early, it's how he fishes for reactions. If you're wrong you'll have given the scum a 4-0 kill lead by the morning of day 3.
I will admit though, that the odds are good that at least one of the people who piled on you are scum. Maybe more than one, it'd be a great way to hide a vote without having to dream up an explanation.

I think my initial vote for feck is going to stand.
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Re: Simple Mafia 3 - Day 2

Post by Animavore » Sun Jun 20, 2010 2:21 pm

So it's probably fair to say that those that useless FOS'd are not scum?
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Re: Simple Mafia 3 - Day 2

Post by Zigmen » Sun Jun 20, 2010 2:28 pm

In these quotes from Useless, I see a couple of things:

1) He protects MagicZig twice (sort of).
2) He protects Ghat (who is viewed as scum).
3) He votes Feck.
4) He FoSes DP (now dead).

I sense a "hide my eggs in two baskets" strategy here.

MagicZig, who do you think is scum?

Feck, Who do you think is scum?
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Re: Simple Mafia 3 - Day 2

Post by Zigmen » Sun Jun 20, 2010 2:31 pm

Animavore wrote:So it's probably fair to say that those that useless FOS'd are not scum?
Scum FoS scum all the time. They hope it clears them later. It does not.

This is known as "bussing."

http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Bussing
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Re: Simple Mafia 3 - Day 2

Post by charlou » Sun Jun 20, 2010 2:42 pm

Animavore wrote:Vote Ghat.
Ghat is scum. I viewed him last night. If there's a bodyguard or whatever out there then I need protection tonight to view another.
Ani, if you viewed Ghat as scum last night, why did you say this (the bolded bit):
Animavore wrote:Shouldn't the vig only have one shot? Seems to few to have a serial killer.

:what:

Anyway. A scum lie in a game with so few people is not a good idea. Ghat could be the vigi I suppose :ask:
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