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Nancy Pelosi is fucking naive

Post by Chinaski » Mon Mar 01, 2010 6:15 pm

Pelosi: Dems "share some" tea party views

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi believes the tea party movement shares a common enemy with Democrats -- the entrenched special interests that feed money into the political system.

"We share some of the views of the tea partiers in terms of the role of special interest in Washington, D.C.," Pelosi said in a taped interview airing Sunday on ABC's "This Week." "It just has to stop. And that's why I've fought the special interest, whether it's on energy, whether it's on health insurance, whether it's on pharmaceuticals and the rest."

And Pelosi still believes Washington Republicans are trying to quietly influence the tea party movement through well-funded, fake grassroots organizations, referred to as "astroturf."

"The Republican Party directs a lot of what the tea party does, but not everybody in the tea party takes direction from the Republican Party," Pelosi said. "So there was a lot of, shall we say, Astroturf, as opposed to grassroots."

"Some of it is orchestrated from the Republican headquarters," she continued. "Some of it is hijacking the good intentions who share some of our concerns we have."

And she said she's not worried about the threat the movement presents to her party.

"We're fully prepared to face the American people with the integrity of what we have put forth, the commitment to jobs and health care and education and a world at peace and safe for our children and with the political armed power to go with it to win those elections," she said.
And now, I lovely rant courtesy of another forum I visit (the same one the libertarian one came from).

"Dear Speaker Pelosi,

What in the fuck are you thinking? The Democratic Party has absolutely nothing in common with the Teabaggers and the Cult of Glen Beck. Have you been to one of their rallies, seen the type of people who show up, or even listened to their nonsensical, paranoid schizophrenic ramblings? They are fucking insane! What do you not understand about these people? The Teabagger Movement is the ultimate political Trojan horse. Sure, it looks harmless on the outside – more responsible government and less corporate welfare – but inside this seemly reasonable façade lies an army of war mongers, racists, homophobes, 9/11 Truthers, gun nuts, Birthers, xenophobes, 6,000 year old Earth fundamentalists, and Ron Paul supporters. Are you this desperate to be loved or so fucking naïve that you would joyfully roll this dangerous behemoth inside the walls of the Democratic Party? Take my advice and do what King Priam should have done...smash this thing on the rocks or burn it to the fucking ground.

These people are Ponda Baba and Dr. Evazan to your Luke Skywalker. They do not and never will like you. Sure, they’ll copy off of your test and let you suck their cock as long as you promise not to tell anyone, but they are never going to take you to the prom. John Hughes is dead, you are not Molly Ringwald, and that hunky Jake is not going to buy you a cake for your Sweet Sixteenth. Farmer Ted, Long Duck Dong, and Joan Cusack in a neck brace are your base. Wake the fuck up! Stop dreaming and realize that if you decide to get into bed with these people it will not be Patrick Swayze helping you with your pottery while the Righteous Brothers croon in the background, it will be Max Hardcore slapping the shit out of you and turning you into a German Goo Girl.

They are not interested in your olive branch or your bipartisanship. Do you honestly expect anyone to believe that you or any other member of Congress has ever fought against the “special interests” or ever will? Hell, even your bullshit is full of bullshit. A quick look at some data picked up from the website Opensecrets.org clearly shows to anyone with half a brain and a fifth grade reading level that in the 2008 election cycle, PACs in the "Labor" sector contributed $66.4 million, 92% to Democrats; PACs in business sectors contributed a total of $286.5 million, roughly divided about 55% to Republicans, 45% to Democrats; PACs in the Finance, Insurance & Real Estate sector contributed $62.6 million, divided equally between Democrats and Republicans; and "Ideology/single issue" PACs contributed $59 million, 53% to Democrats, 47% to Republicans. Yes, your tireless efforts at combating the special interests have slowed the torrent of cash to a mere $252.6 million trickle for your party alone in one election cycle. And this doesn’t even take into consideration all of the campaign contributions outside of the PACs or the army of lobbyists who roam the Capitol hallways and committee hearing rooms, consulting on and writing the very bills that seek to restrain them. Face facts, Mrs. Speaker, Congress is the east coast version of the Nevada Bunny Ranch and you are all whores.

But this is not news to anyone with a pulse and at least one firing synapse. What is news is that you would sacrifice all of your meager remaining principles in a cynical and suicidal mad dash past the middle and into the extreme Right-wing to woo a group of voters that aren’t going to vote for you anyway. In case you haven’t been paying attention, there are no Democrat Teabaggers. We know you’re a cheap slut but you are quickly approaching crackwhore status.

A lot of good people have worked tirelessly to marginalize and ridicule these Teabaggers, giving them just enough rope to hang themselves and allowing them to show their true colors when they interrupt town hall meetings, carry ridiculously retarded protest signs, and fly small aircraft into buildings in Texas. They are a disorganized mob of fringe dwelling miscreants that even the mainstream power structure of the Republican Party has deemed illegitimate. When Rush Limbaugh and Dick Cheney distance themselves from you and your ideas and Lyndon LaRouche embraces them, it doesn’t take Nancy Reagan and a team of astrologers to predict extra-long sleeves and a padded cell in your near future.

What happened? For awhile, you were on our side and out front leading the venomous charge. Did the election of a pro-choice Republican from Massachusetts who just happened to break ranks with the conservatives and vote with your party on the recent jobs bill scare you that much? Do you honestly believe that it was the Teabaggers who put him in office and not the fact that the Democratic candidate was such an empty vacuous bitch who ran a campaign so incompetent that it made Dukakis riding in a tank look like marketing genius in comparison?

You have a majority government. Republicans were on the ropes. The Teabaggers were and are causing a schism within the Republican Party. You could have just shut the fuck up and watched them self-implode under the weight of their own disgruntled base. You could have just run with the President’s agenda, jammed it through both Houses, and come out the other side smelling like a rose. I mean, you could have if you weren't such a whore and really wanted to do any of it in the first place, which you didn't. But more importantly, you could have further marginalized and fractured the opposition by allowing them to talk themselves into obscurity. Instead, you decide to give credence to their insanity and paranoia. Congratulations, cunt. You have single-handedly legitimized crazy."
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Post by Coito ergo sum » Tue Jun 01, 2010 2:39 pm

Pelosi Says She Has a Duty to Pursue Policies in Keeping With The Values of Jesus, 'The Word Made Flesh' - http://cnsnews.com/news/article/66208
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Post by Coito ergo sum » Fri Jun 11, 2010 5:48 pm

Pelosi - least democratic speaker of the house in US history, says Representative Pence:

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=37440

she’s blocked a “free and open debate” in Congress.

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Post by Martok » Fri Jun 11, 2010 6:35 pm

I'll gladly take Palosi over the last two ass clowns who were speakers, Gingrich and Hastert.

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Post by Coito ergo sum » Sat Jun 12, 2010 1:05 pm

Martok wrote:I'll gladly take Palosi over the last two ass clowns who were speakers, Gingrich and Hastert.
Why? Because you side with her party? :roll:

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Post by Martok » Sat Jun 12, 2010 2:10 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:
Martok wrote:I'll gladly take Palosi over the last two ass clowns who were speakers, Gingrich and Hastert.
Why? Because you side with her party? :roll:
Because she's a better speaker than those two "morans."

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Post by Coito ergo sum » Sat Jun 12, 2010 3:26 pm

Martok wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:
Martok wrote:I'll gladly take Palosi over the last two ass clowns who were speakers, Gingrich and Hastert.
Why? Because you side with her party? :roll:
Because she's a better speaker than those two "morans."
Morans? LOL

So, make your case. How is she a better speaker?

I'll make a few points:

1. Jack Cafferty of CNN (hardly a conservative bastion), stated, "It's a disgrace," said Cafferty. "This nation is hurting, but Nancy Pelosi can use three military jets for a December trip to Copenhagen, and then refuse to answer any questions about it." Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-shepp ... z0qeTAYJlU "What a horrible woman she is," he said.

2. Pelosi said “the Democrats have to pass their terrible health care bill so that the American people can actually find out what's in it.” :ddpan:

3. She voted in favor of the Patriot Act. Every time. While railing against it. :fp:

4. She voted against the 2002 Iraq War Resolution, but then voted in favor of every single war appropriations bill since then, making her first vote meaningless, except for political purposes.

5. She was one of eight representatives and senators who knew about the wireless surveillance being carried out by the telecommunications industry on behalf of in 2004. She has since then "rammed through" the House of Representatives the FISA amendments bill that gives the telecommunications industry from civil suits for privacy violations.

6. March 20, 2003 - The day after the war on Iraq was launched - the one she voted AGAINST - as her constituents were protesting the invasion, Pelosi was in Congress condemning the demonstrators. She voted that very day for a resolution declaring "unequivocal support and appreciation to the president...for his firm leadership and decisive action." And she used her leadership position in Congress to urge others to sign on to the resolution. And, then she spoke out of the other side of her mouth ever since, declaring the war "illegal."

7. She voted for NAFTA.

8. She voted for the No Child Left Behind Bill.

9. She's hypocritical on unions - claiming to support them, but she and her husband own a $25 million vineyard which is a non-union shop, and are also partners in a restaurant chain called Piatti, which has 900 employees. The chain is also a non-union shop. LOL

10. She's a rich hypocrite that straddles the fence on almost every issue. She cares nothing for the traditional rules of Congress, so long as it serves her political purpose. She votes for stuff like NAFTA and the No Child Left Behind thing, in case they work, but at the same time excoriates them because the press tend to protect her and fail to deeply analyze where she's coming from. I.e., she's a lying twat.

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Post by Martok » Sun Jun 13, 2010 12:30 am

Coito ergo sum wrote:She cares nothing for the traditional rules of Congress, so long as it serves her political purpose.
That's a bunch of horse poo. :D

She's nothing like Joseph Gurney Cannon:
Cannon wielded the office of Speaker with unprecedented power. At the time of Cannon's election the Speaker of the House concurrently held the chair of the Rules Committee, which determined under what rules and restrictions bills could be debated, amended, and voted on, and in some cases whether they would be allowed on the floor at all. As such, Cannon effectively controlled every aspect of the House's agenda: Bills reached the floor of the house only if Cannon approved of it, and then in whatever form he determined—with he himself deciding whether and to what extent the measures could be debated and amended.

Cannon also reserved to himself the right to appoint not only the chairs of the various House committees, but also all of committees' members, and (despite the seniority system that had begun to develop) used that power to appoint his allies and proteges to leadership positions while punishing those who opposed his legislation. Crucially, Cannon exercised these powers to maintain discipline within the ranks of his own party: the Republicans were divided into the conservative "Old Guard," led by Cannon, and the progressives, led by President Theodore Roosevelt. His committee assignment privileges ensured that the party's Progressive element was essentially powerless in the House, and his control over the legislative process obstructed progressive legislation.

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Re: Nancy Pelosi is fucking naive

Post by Coito ergo sum » Fri Jul 02, 2010 12:35 pm

Is she fucking insane?

http://www.breitbart.tv/pelosi-unemploy ... eate-jobs/

Unemployment compensation is a "job creator?"
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Post by Martok » Fri Jul 02, 2010 3:44 pm

And yet, she's STILL better than the last two Speakers. :mrgreen:

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Post by Coito ergo sum » Fri Jul 02, 2010 3:46 pm

Martok wrote:And yet, she's STILL better than the last two Speakers. :mrgreen:
On what basis?

She's a dolt.

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Post by Robert_S » Sun Jul 04, 2010 11:33 am

Coito ergo sum wrote:Is she fucking insane?

http://www.breitbart.tv/pelosi-unemploy ... eate-jobs/

Unemployment compensation is a "job creator?"
:fp:
Money coming in to those who will spend it is more like a job preserver than job creator. That's costumers not lost at local shops and therefore people not laid off all the way up the supply chain.
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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Post by Coito ergo sum » Mon Jul 05, 2010 11:37 am

Robert_S wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:Is she fucking insane?

http://www.breitbart.tv/pelosi-unemploy ... eate-jobs/

Unemployment compensation is a "job creator?"
:fp:
Money coming in to those who will spend it is more like a job preserver than job creator. That's costumers not lost at local shops and therefore people not laid off all the way up the supply chain.
When you pay someone to do something, they do more of it. And, using borrowed money to foot that bill is net loss to the economy.

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Re: Nancy Pelosi is fucking naive

Post by Toontown » Fri Jul 09, 2010 7:09 pm

The word "fucking", when associated directly with Pelosi, gives me the heebie-jeebies.

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