Holy Crap!
-
Gawdzilla Sama
- Stabsobermaschinist
- Posts: 151265
- Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 12:24 am
- About me: My posts are related to the thread in the same way Gliese 651b is related to your mother's underwear drawer.
- Location: Sitting next to Ayaan in Domus Draconis, and communicating via PMs.
-
Contact:
Post
by Gawdzilla Sama » Sun Jun 06, 2010 4:59 pm
Borrowed from RatzSkep:
[quote="DoctorE";p="258358"]Oh really, how weird
The faith of most Christians, even that of many pastors, will not stand up to intellectual scrutiny, according to renowned apologist Josh McDowell.
This is a concern because pastors’ inability to present biblical truth comprehensibly and relevantly has led to children from Christian families leaving the church, research has shown.
In the United States, the age at which nearly all such children leave church has decreased to 18 years.
Not even the children of many successful ministers are spared.
McDowell made his comments at a recent networking dinner among various men’s ministries organized recently by Men-in-Covenant. MiC is the men’s ministry of Covenant Evangelical Free Church.
He recalled speaking with the pastor of one of the largest U.S. churches, a man known for his expository preaching. Confiding in him, the pastor said their church was losing its youth right after high school graduation.
In his 50 years of ministry, McDowell has asked several thousand pastors and leaders how they could be certain Jesus Christ said “I am the truth” and not one of many truths or a truth.
“Not one person has ever given me an intelligent, biblically-based answer,” said the author of The New Evidence that Demands A Verdict.
Continues:
http://www.christianpost.com/article/20 ... index.html[/quote]
Ein Ubootsoldat wrote:“Ich melde mich ab. Grüssen Sie bitte meine Kameraden.”
-
Twiglet
- Posts: 371
- Joined: Fri Apr 09, 2010 1:33 pm
- Location: Australia
-
Contact:
Post
by Twiglet » Sun Jun 06, 2010 5:17 pm
I expect most Americans believe they live in a Christian nation. Does that make it so?
-
Ian
- Mr Incredible
- Posts: 16975
- Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 6:42 pm
- Location: Washington DC
Post
by Ian » Sun Jun 06, 2010 7:18 pm
"As the government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of Musselmen [Muslims] ... it is declared ... that no pretext arising from religious opinion shall ever product an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries....
"The United States is not a Christian nation any more than it is a Jewish or a Mohammedan nation."
-- Treaty of Tripoli (1797), carried unanimously by the Senate and signed into law by John Adams
-
Xamonas Chegwé
- Bouncer

- Posts: 50939
- Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 3:23 pm
- About me: I have prehensile eyebrows.
I speak 9 languages fluently, one of which other people can also speak.
When backed into a corner, I fit perfectly - having a right-angled arse.
- Location: Nottingham UK
-
Contact:
Post
by Xamonas Chegwé » Mon Jun 07, 2010 1:11 pm
In his 50 years of ministry, McDowell has asked several thousand pastors and leaders how they could be certain Jesus Christ said “I am the truth” and not one of many truths or a truth.
“Not one person has ever given me an intelligent, biblically-based answer,” said the author of The New Evidence that Demands A Verdict.
The problem appears to be the two, mutually-exclusive adjectives in that sentence.

A book is a version of the world. If you do not like it, ignore it; or offer your own version in return.
Salman Rushdie
You talk to God, you're religious. God talks to you, you're psychotic.
House MD
Who needs a meaning anyway, I'd settle anyday for a very fine view.
Sandy Denny
This is the wrong forum for bluffing 
Paco
Yes, yes. But first I need to show you this venomous fish!
Calilasseia
I think we should do whatever Pawiz wants.
Twoflower
Bella squats momentarily then waddles on still peeing, like a horse
Millefleur
-
AnInconvenientScotsman
- Posts: 646
- Joined: Thu May 27, 2010 9:05 am
- Location: Glasgow, Scotland
-
Contact:
Post
by AnInconvenientScotsman » Tue Jun 08, 2010 8:23 pm
It's a Christian nation no more than Britain is an English nation; just because the majority of the population are Christian (IIRC

) - like the majority of the British population are English - doesn't make them a Christian nation, no matter how many times the Christians blurt it out.
That and, you know, the whole Constitution thing...
When I feel sad, I stop being sad and be awesome instead.
True story.
SUIT UP!
"Dear God, dear Lord, dear vague muscular man with a beard or a sword,
Dear good all seeing being; my way or the highway Yahweh,
The blue-balled anti-masturbator, the great all-loving faggot-hater
I thank your holy might, for making me both rich and white"
-
Gawdzilla Sama
- Stabsobermaschinist
- Posts: 151265
- Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 12:24 am
- About me: My posts are related to the thread in the same way Gliese 651b is related to your mother's underwear drawer.
- Location: Sitting next to Ayaan in Domus Draconis, and communicating via PMs.
-
Contact:
Post
by Gawdzilla Sama » Tue Jun 08, 2010 8:53 pm
AnInconvenientScotsman wrote:It's a Christian nation no more than Britain is an English nation; just because the majority of the population are Christian (IIRC

) - like the majority of the British population are English - doesn't make them a Christian nation, no matter how many times the Christians blurt it out.
That and, you know, the whole Constitution thing...
My point is that there are very few actual Christians in the US. The vast majority of them are just bullshitters.
Ein Ubootsoldat wrote:“Ich melde mich ab. Grüssen Sie bitte meine Kameraden.”
-
virphen
- Posts: 1451
- Joined: Tue Feb 23, 2010 2:37 am
- About me: "that fairy-fingering ass-raping space lizard"
One year own my home planet = 3 on earth.
- Location: Orbit.
Post
by virphen » Tue Jun 08, 2010 10:00 pm
Gawdzilla wrote:AnInconvenientScotsman wrote:It's a Christian nation no more than Britain is an English nation; just because the majority of the population are Christian (IIRC

) - like the majority of the British population are English - doesn't make them a Christian nation, no matter how many times the Christians blurt it out.
That and, you know, the whole Constitution thing...
My point is that there are very few actual Christians in the US. The vast majority of them are just bullshitters.
And there are no actual Scotsmen in Scotland...
-
Gawdzilla Sama
- Stabsobermaschinist
- Posts: 151265
- Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 12:24 am
- About me: My posts are related to the thread in the same way Gliese 651b is related to your mother's underwear drawer.
- Location: Sitting next to Ayaan in Domus Draconis, and communicating via PMs.
-
Contact:
Post
by Gawdzilla Sama » Tue Jun 08, 2010 10:02 pm
virphen wrote:Gawdzilla wrote:AnInconvenientScotsman wrote:It's a Christian nation no more than Britain is an English nation; just because the majority of the population are Christian (IIRC

) - like the majority of the British population are English - doesn't make them a Christian nation, no matter how many times the Christians blurt it out.
That and, you know, the whole Constitution thing...
My point is that there are very few actual Christians in the US. The vast majority of them are just bullshitters.
And there are no actual Scotsmen in Scotland...
Yeah, but the ones that are there can put on a kilt without getting it on upside down. Merkin "Christians" can't even name all the apostles.
Ein Ubootsoldat wrote:“Ich melde mich ab. Grüssen Sie bitte meine Kameraden.”
-
Nightfly
- Tree Hugger
- Posts: 73
- Joined: Mon May 24, 2010 2:17 pm
- Location: Boston, New England
-
Contact:
Post
by Nightfly » Tue Jun 08, 2010 10:06 pm
Gawdzilla wrote:
My point is that there are very few actual Christians in the US. The vast majority of them are just bullshitters.
What's the distinction?
-
Gawdzilla Sama
- Stabsobermaschinist
- Posts: 151265
- Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 12:24 am
- About me: My posts are related to the thread in the same way Gliese 651b is related to your mother's underwear drawer.
- Location: Sitting next to Ayaan in Domus Draconis, and communicating via PMs.
-
Contact:
Post
by Gawdzilla Sama » Tue Jun 08, 2010 10:37 pm
Nightfly wrote:Gawdzilla wrote:
My point is that there are very few actual Christians in the US. The vast majority of them are just bullshitters.
What's the distinction?
The fanatical believer is always dangerous. Simon Zealotis for example. But the average scrub christian wouldn't risk his butt for anything holy.
Ein Ubootsoldat wrote:“Ich melde mich ab. Grüssen Sie bitte meine Kameraden.”
-
Xamonas Chegwé
- Bouncer

- Posts: 50939
- Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 3:23 pm
- About me: I have prehensile eyebrows.
I speak 9 languages fluently, one of which other people can also speak.
When backed into a corner, I fit perfectly - having a right-angled arse.
- Location: Nottingham UK
-
Contact:
Post
by Xamonas Chegwé » Tue Jun 08, 2010 11:56 pm
Gawdzilla wrote:virphen wrote:Gawdzilla wrote:AnInconvenientScotsman wrote:It's a Christian nation no more than Britain is an English nation; just because the majority of the population are Christian (IIRC

) - like the majority of the British population are English - doesn't make them a Christian nation, no matter how many times the Christians blurt it out.
That and, you know, the whole Constitution thing...
My point is that there are very few actual Christians in the US. The vast majority of them are just bullshitters.
And there are no actual Scotsmen in Scotland...
Yeah, but the ones that are there can put on a kilt without getting it on upside down. Merkin "Christians" can't even name all the apostles.
Ooh ooh! Let me try!
Dopey, Happy, the one with the glasses... Doc! That's three. Sleepy, Snoopy, err... Snotty? Did I say Dopey? Grumbly! Now I'm stuck... Fuck it! I give up.

A book is a version of the world. If you do not like it, ignore it; or offer your own version in return.
Salman Rushdie
You talk to God, you're religious. God talks to you, you're psychotic.
House MD
Who needs a meaning anyway, I'd settle anyday for a very fine view.
Sandy Denny
This is the wrong forum for bluffing 
Paco
Yes, yes. But first I need to show you this venomous fish!
Calilasseia
I think we should do whatever Pawiz wants.
Twoflower
Bella squats momentarily then waddles on still peeing, like a horse
Millefleur
-
Gawdzilla Sama
- Stabsobermaschinist
- Posts: 151265
- Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 12:24 am
- About me: My posts are related to the thread in the same way Gliese 651b is related to your mother's underwear drawer.
- Location: Sitting next to Ayaan in Domus Draconis, and communicating via PMs.
-
Contact:
Post
by Gawdzilla Sama » Wed Jun 09, 2010 12:13 am
Xamonas Chegwé wrote:Ooh ooh! Let me try!
Dopey, Happy, the one with the glasses... Doc! That's three. Sleepy, Snoopy, err... Snotty? Did I say Dopey? Grumbly! Now I'm stuck... Fuck it! I give up.

You just have to remember three warships. A destroyer (DD), a submarine (SS) and a patrol vessel (HGB). Then it's
D
D
S
S
H
G
B
Easy.
Ein Ubootsoldat wrote:“Ich melde mich ab. Grüssen Sie bitte meine Kameraden.”
Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 8 guests