Questions for Mandy

[mandy]

Say please to the nice lady !

i do say please to her mate. but dispite that, bella aint been nice to me.

[mandy]

What are "real" Islam and beliefs of Muslims?

Can you give me some examples of fake Islam and unreal beliefs of Muslims?

you know, like killing of infidels is halal. you can shed their blood. this type of belief has nothing to do with real islam. it is what some groups invent and go around bombing the west. thats terrorism which has nothing to do with what Allah actually says in the Quran. original true islam is the only religion which God sent down for the whole world. it is found in His book Quran

[Achtland]

red wine
its not even lunch time yet
shame on you

[Coito ergo sum]

What are "real" Islam and beliefs of Muslims?

Can you give me some examples of fake Islam and unreal beliefs of Muslims?

you know, like killing of infidels is halal. you can shed their blood. this type of belief has nothing to do with real islam.

On what basis do you say that? Is that just your opinion, or do you have some textual or other material that you rely on to reach that conclusion?

it is what some groups invent and go around bombing the west.

So, they say it is good to kill the infidels, and you say that is not the true Islam. Are we to take your word for that, or is there some way that we, non-Muslims, can reliably believe you over them?

thats terrorism which has nothing to do with what Allah actually says in the Quran. original true islam is the only religion which God sent down for the whole world. it is found in His book Quran

“Slay the unbelievers wherever you find them.” Quran 2:191 [Why should we not take that as an edict to kill the infidels?]

“Make war on the infidels living in your neighborhood.” Quran 9:123 [that too seems to be an edict to kill the infidels]

“When opportunity arises, kill the infidels wherever you catch them.” Quran 9:5 [This does not appear to support your position]

“Any religion other than Islam is not acceptable.” Quran 3:85 [also not in accord with your view]

“The Jews and the Christians are perverts; fight them.” Quran 9:30 [perverts?]

“The infidels are unclean; do not let them into a mosque.” Quran 9:28 [you won't let me in your Mosque?]

“Punish the unbelievers with garments of fire, hooked iron rods, boiling water; melt their skin and bellies.” Quran 22:19 [there's a give-away, I think...come see the violence inherent in the system! Help! Help! I'm being repressed!]

“Do not hanker for peace with the infidels; behead them when you catch them.” Quran 47:4

“The unbelievers are stupid; urge the Muslims to fight them.” Quran 8:65

“Muslims must not take the infidels instead of Muslims as friends.” Quran 3:28

“Terrorize and behead those who believe in scriptures other than the Qur’an.” Quran 8:12 [Here, the Koran even uses the word "terrorize"]

“Muslims must muster all weapons to terrorize the infidels.” Quran 8:60 [And, for good measure...another "terrorize" reference]


So, there you have it. You said that the killing of infidels and the terrorism is something that is not "real" Islam. Why should I believe you, when the Koran says otherwise?

[Feck]

Say please to the nice lady !

i do say please to her mate. but dispite that, Bella aint been nice to me.

That's probably because you are here promoting a religion that demeans her and would like to remove most of her rights as a human being .(just Guessing , mind , it could of course be that she is sticking up for the gay men of the forum (and the world) because she doesn't want to see them murdered because of a stupid book and the stupid people that follows it's insanities )

[Link]

What are "real" Islam and beliefs of Muslims?

Can you give me some examples of fake Islam and unreal beliefs of Muslims?

you know, like killing of infidels is halal. you can shed their blood. this type of belief has nothing to do with real islam. it is what some groups invent and go around bombing the west. thats terrorism which has nothing to do with what Allah actually says in the Quran. original true islam is the only religion which God sent down for the whole world. it is found in His book Quran

Really?.......really, really, really..........?

Hmmmm.... How about this verse Mandy my "Mate"

Qur'an (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"

This is from your shitty rag of a holy book, It is what "Allah actually says in the Quran" as you put it.

I'd like to see you defend this one, it's pretty explicit and you can hardly say that it is talking about a "spiritual struggle" or taken "out of context" as some muslims would try to argue....

What is your defense of this verse which explicitly calls for violence against the Kafir/Infidel/Disbeliever?

[charlou]

Say please to the nice lady !

i do say please to her mate. but dispite that, bella aint been nice to me.

Orly?

bella, dont you be tryin to shit stir ok!! :I-love-pork:

The irony of your polite request hasn't gone unnoticed, either.

[Trolldor]

'bella aint been nice to me'

We gots ourselves one of them Southern Muslims.

[Twoflower]

'bella aint been nice to me'

We gots ourselves one of them Southern Muslims.

[Feck]

'bella aint been nice to me'

We gots ourselves one of them Southern Muslims.

[mandy]

You said that the killing of infidels and the terrorism is something that is not "real" Islam. Why should I believe you, when the Koran says otherwise?

no no no mate. let me correct you there. you quoted a lof of verses from Quran. Allah does not say at all his muslims can murder innocent people. all those verses you picked out of context from Quran are about war situations when your country is being invaded and you are being attacted. i bet you would act on those verses if you came under brutal occupation by a foreign army. so dont give me that bollocks that muslims are more violent then the rest. muslims are most peaceful people in the world. Allah made his worshippers peaceful.

[mandy]

That's probably because you are here promoting a religion that demeans her and would like to remove most of her rights as a human being .(just Guessing , mind , it could of course be that she is sticking up for the gay men of the forum (and the world) because she doesn't want to see them murdered because of a stupid book and the stupid people that follows it's insanities )

yeah thats possible mate. she could easily have got all those things wrong. she aint perfect. so its very easy for the devil to trick an infidel, you know. but i dont think she is a true gay lover. check her out.

[Link]

What are "real" Islam and beliefs of Muslims?

Can you give me some examples of fake Islam and unreal beliefs of Muslims?

you know, like killing of infidels is halal. you can shed their blood. this type of belief has nothing to do with real islam. it is what some groups invent and go around bombing the west. thats terrorism which has nothing to do with what Allah actually says in the Quran. original true islam is the only religion which God sent down for the whole world. it is found in His book Quran

Really?.......really, really, really..........?

Hmmmm.... How about this verse Mandy my "Mate"

Qur'an (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"

This is from your shitty rag of a holy book, It is what "Allah actually says in the Quran" as you put it.

I'd like to see you defend this one, it's pretty explicit and you can hardly say that it is talking about a "spiritual struggle" or taken "out of context" as some muslims would try to argue....

What is your defense of this verse which explicitly calls for violence against the Kafir/Infidel/Disbeliever?

What about mine Mandy? Nothing to do with "Wartime" in mine

[mandy]

i'll do the rest later tomorrow.

[Feck]

i'll do the rest later tomorrow.

It's hard work defending the indefensible isn't it ! you have a nice evening Mandy Have a beer and relax