Evidence that Islam is an Ultraviolent Horror Show

[Coito ergo sum]

Exhibit 1. It's 2010, and some Muslims stone people for adultery.


A 48-year-old Somali begs for his life as he is partially
buried in preparation for stoning over adultery by an
Islamic court. (Needless-to-say, he wasn't successful).




Exhibit 2. There is a significant movement within Islam to dominate the world



That graffiti is on a war memorial in Britain.


Exhibit 3. There is a significant movement within Islam to continue to wage war against the United States.

In the last 15 months, Muslims in America have, 1) Plotted to set off a car bomb in Illinois, 2) Plotted to blow up a skyscraper in Dallas, 3) Attempted to detonate an airplane over Detroit, 4) Murdered an army recruiter in Arkansas, 5) Planted a car bomb in Times Square, and 6) Massacred thirteen people in Texas. We've been quite lucky.


Exhibit 4: This month, A Muslim father brutally murdered his 16 year old daughter in an honor killing....in Switzerland.


Exhibit 5: Cartoon riots.

[Ian]

It's 2010 by our calendar. For muslims, this is the year 1431.

Still, you're preaching to the choir as far as I'm concerned.
Any thoughts on the future of Islam? I've been giving the matter a fair amount of thought recently. I think a revived Caliphate is a distinct possibility. Once we're living in a post-oil world, probably in the next few decades, the biggest economic tentpole for much of the middle east will fall down. In the case of Saudi Arabia, it could be a massive collapse. Economics is the greatest catalyst for upheaval there is. If there's an uprising strong enough to topple the royal family, I doubt it'll be replaced by something secular. And anything of the sort happening in Arabia is not likely to be constrained to the borders of the former House of Saud. A worst-case scenario would be a united Caliphate eventually emerging out of all the nations on the Arabian peninsula, perhaps soon including Egypt, Iraq, Jordan, Syria and others.

[owtth]

Why do the stoners (snigger) feel the need to cover their faces are they, perhaps, ashamed? Cowardly fuckers, if you are going to squash someone's skull with the blessing of your society at least have the balls to be upfront about it.

[Feck]

I think there is a little too much hysteria about Muslims .
There is a tendency to show the worst they are capable of, look at christians killing witch children in Africa . Most christians are not like that.
There are political (and social) problems that mean Islam can be used as a justification for anti western actions but remember there are also a lot of muslims living happy and profitable lives in the west.
I think we DO have serious trouble ahead but we know now that the great fear that the bloodthirsty Russians are not going to nuke the world, America's worst fears turned out to be greatly exaggerated .
In ten years we could be watching the muslims tear each other apart Sunni vs Shiite .911 scared the shit out of Americans and stirred up a lot of righteous anger.
I also think just like at Pearl harbour your pride has been wounded and that has stirred you into action .

I just don't think the muslims are going to tear our world apart .

[owtth]

I think there is a little too much hysteria about Muslims .
There is a tendency to show the worst they are capable of, look at christians killing witch children in Africa . Most christians are not like that.
There are political (and social) problems that mean Islam can be used as a justification for anti western actions but remember there are also a lot of muslims living happy and profitable lives in the west.
I think we DO have serious trouble ahead but we know now that the great fear that the bloodthirsty Russians are not going to nuke the world, America's worst fears turned out to be greatly exaggerated .
In ten years we could be watching the muslims tear each other apart Sunni vs Shiite .911 scared the shit out of Americans and stirred up a lot of righteous anger.
I also think just like at Pearl harbour your pride has been wounded and that has stirred you into action .

I just don't think the muslims are going to tear our world apart .

The extremists will continue to tear each other to bits, admittedly, but an equal vehemence is set aside for those of us who couldn't give two fucks who anyone worships or how they do it, and whilst that is the nature of most religions it is particularly prevalent in islam where the leaders of that culture refuse to denounce the extreme actions of their more demented brethren.

[mandy]

i admit my fellow muslims brothers do terrible things like blow up trains and planes. its forbidden in islam. these muslims sin against Allah who will get em one day. but if you look at it, americans are far more barbaric and violant then anyone else on earth. americans officially torture innocent people. they dont give em lawyers. they dont let mothers see their sons who are kept for years without charge in secret jails. at least muslim countries allow mums see their sons, if the females agree to wear the burka.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle ... 693714.stm
http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=12 ... =351020101
http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=127059
http://www1.voanews.com/english/news/mi ... 61324.html

tell me, has america ever let a muslim mother see her son detained at guantanamo bay prison? no they havent.
US is not called the great satan for nothing. america has no good left in it. the tv news didnt even report this. you can guess why cant you. coz it made muslims look better than US. infidels hate truth thats why they try best to hide good news.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=12 ... =351020101

[Gawdzilla Sama]

but if you look at it, americans are far more barbaric and violant then anyone else on earth.

I was "privileged" to study violence under some very expert tutors, mandy. The "best" ones were muslim.

[Feck]

The actions of a goverment against people it considers (rightly or wrongly )to be in a defacto state of war with cannot be used to justify the horror that Sharia law is - don't even try !

Mohammed was Ruthless . To compare with Islam the USA would have had to deliberately laid waste to a country made a "great slaughter" and carried of the rest of the population into (sexual, for the women) slavery .
Tell me ,Would you like to see the Forces of The USA and the west act according to the example of the Koran ?

trick Question Mandy ..... Here's a hint If you condem the actions of the West ,you also condem Mohammed !

The reason that millions of people in the west spoke out against the horrors of War and the violation of human rights is that we have a concept of human rights that goes a lot further than the koran .
Either the Koran is wrong ,Mohammed was a bloody thirty murderer (and a child and slave rapist ).
Or as a conquering "nation" the West can follow Mohammed's example .

Take your pick ?
Oh and I would like an answer !

[Coito ergo sum]

I think there is a little too much hysteria about Muslims .

Not enough, actually. There are too many apologetics and excuse-makers out there, in my view.

There is a tendency to show the worst they are capable of, look at christians killing witch children in Africa . Most christians are not like that.

The statement "Islam sucks" does not mean "Christianity is good." Christianity sucks too, just as a matter of degree, Islam sucks way worse because even in its "moderate" versions it is still horrid. Christianity in its moderate sense, like Unitarians, Quakers, Methodists, run of the mill Lutherans, and even most Catholics, live in generally Western, live and let live, fashion because there has been progress and change and reformation within Christianity at least to some degree. In the heartland of Islam, however, like in Saudi Arabia and other areas where Islamic law applies, they do stone adulterers, and do sanction honor killing, and they do repress women and homosexuals, and they do repress non-Muslims and limit their freedom of religion and speech.

sure, Christianity sucks, and many Christians do crappy things. That doesn't mean there's too much hysteria about Islam. Islam is god-awful, plain and simple.

There are political (and social) problems that mean Islam can be used as a justification for anti western actions but remember there are also a lot of muslims living happy and profitable lives in the west.

Sure, but there are plenty also that believe their religion really means that if you insult the Mighty Mo that you should be killed. Look at the stats in the UK. The so-called "moderate" Muslim ain't very moderate.

In ten years we could be watching the muslims tear each other apart Sunni vs Shiite .

Who knows? Might be. It doesn't change the fact that Islam is a horrid, discriminatory, misogynistic, homophobic religion that brings with it Islamic or Sha'ria law which codifies principles and prohibitions that are anathema to Western Enlightenment Liberalism. If Islam gets its way, if it gets the chance, it will enact the worst of its laws - like death to apostates, etc. It will set itself up as superior among religions, and will not tolerate irreligion. We can see that by many examples, including the efforts by many Muslims, including "moderate" Muslims, to outlaw blasphemy.

911 scared the shit out of Americans and stirred up a lot of righteous anger.

9/11 should have scared the shit out of people. It was the largest attack on U.S. territory by a foreign enemy since the War of 1812. Thousands of innocent civilians were butchered without warning, when they were just trying to go to work in the morning. Thousands of families had to bury the charred and unrecognizable remains of family members. And, everyone had to acknowledge, finally, that the enemy that declared war on us several years previously, openly and without apology, really meant it.

When someone hijacks planes, murders civilians and destroys billions of dollars worth of property, it is something worthy of getting angry about.

I also think just like at Pearl harbour your pride has been wounded and that has stirred you into action .

Sure, of course. But, it's not JUST pride. Limiting it to pride and poo-pooing it as "righteous anger" is unjustifiably minimizing it. The event was an unprecedented and massive attack on innocent civilians. It's not a mere embarrassment.

I just don't think the muslims are going to tear our world apart .

40% of British Muslims want Sha'ria law in Britain: http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/archives/146

That's an alarming statistic, and would qualify, I think, as "tearing our world apart," at least the piece of it that is Britain (that is, if they were to succeed). And, 40% is big time. That's not just a "fringe" minority of Muslims in Britain.

[Pappa]

Islam sucks way worse because even in its "moderate" versions it is still horrid.

Can you back that up? I know some moderate Muslims and they are definitely no worse than the moderate Christians I know.

40% of British Muslims want Sha'ria law in Britain: http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/archives/146

That reminds me that 70% of Britons want the death penalty.

[Coito ergo sum]

i admit my fellow muslims brothers do terrible things lke blow up trains and planes. its fprbidden in islam. these muslims sin against Allah who will get em one day. but if you look at it, americans are far more barbaric and violant then anyone else on earth.

No no. it's only if you DON'T look at it that you would draw that conclusion.

americans officially torture innocent people.

No, they don't. Muslim countries do, though.

they dont give em lawyers.

No country gives lawyers to Prisoners of War or non-uniformed enemy combatants.

they dont let mothers see their sons who are kept for years without charge in secret jails.

Oh, well. In World War 2, every country kept some mothers' sons for years without charge and in secret jails. It's called being detained as a POW or an enemy combatant.

US is not called the great satan for nothing. america has no good left in it. the tv news didnt even report this. you can guess why cant you. coz it made muslims look better than US. infidels hate truth thats why they try best to hide good news.

LOL - I can only hope that most Muslims believe as you do. Then maybe they'll stop coming to the US in droves and bringing with them their false religion and hypersensitivity.

[Coito ergo sum]

Islam sucks way worse because even in its "moderate" versions it is still horrid.

Can you back that up? I know some moderate Muslims and they are definitely no worse than the moderate Christians I know.

40% of British Muslims want Sha'ria law in Britain. Sha'ria law is hateful, brutal, discriminatory, misogynistic and homophobic.

40% of British Muslims want Sha'ria law in Britain: http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/archives/146

That reminds me that 70% of Britons want the death penalty.

Big deal. Sha'ria law is, as I noted hateful, brutal, discriminatory, misogynistic and homophobic, and in favor of the death penalty.

[Feck]

I take you points Coito, I just think the decline of the honey bee , and a few metres rise in sea levels is a LOT more worrying than the Muslims .

[Pappa]

Islam sucks way worse because even in its "moderate" versions it is still horrid.

Can you back that up? I know some moderate Muslims and they are definitely no worse than the moderate Christians I know.

40% of British Muslims want Sha'ria law in Britain. Sha'ria law is hateful, brutal, discriminatory, misogynistic and homophobic.

40% of British Muslims want Sha'ria law in Britain: http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/archives/146

That reminds me that 70% of Britons want the death penalty.

Big deal. Sha'ria law is, as I noted hateful, brutal, discriminatory, misogynistic and homophobic, and in favor of the death penalty.

What about the 60% who presumably don't?

Plus, how do you know exactly what they are conceptualising when they say Sharia law? The whole system is much wider than just the bits we in the west regularly (and rightly) vilify.

[Coito ergo sum]

I take you points Coito, I just think the decline of the honey bee , and a few metres rise in sea levels is a LOT more worrying than the Muslims .

There are lots of things to worry about. Even if honey bee decline and sea level rises are legitimate worries, that doesn't mean that the rise of violent Islam is a non-issue.

Islam is quite problematic in another sense: it is having an effect on Western values, including freedom of speech. That is the reason for the 5/20 draw muhammed day. The only reason it is necessary is because there is a significant movement within Islam to impose its proscription of drawing images of the Mighty Mo on the rest of the world. They aren't content in abiding by their own rules, a significant movement is afoot to make our knees bend to their despotic rules.

This is NOT an illusion. It is a direct threat to what the Western Liberal Enlightenment fought for over hundreds of years. Men and women died to fight from under monarchs who squelched liberty. From Magna Carta, to the English Bill of Rights, to the American and French Revolutions, our people fought and died for liberty. This monstrosity called Islam is presently a threat to that - we see DISCRIMINATORY self-censorship in our media and educational institutions - we see people being murdered for what they say about Islam, and we see many more being threatened for what they say about Islam.

We must stand against it. And, standing against the injustices of Islam takes nothing away from our ability to stand against honeybee decline and sea level rises.