Mexican hypocrite shows true stripes

[Toontown]

http://www.examiner.com/x-19823-PostPar ... ration-law

No doubt the President was trying to be a team player, but come on.

During a state visit, Mexican President Felipe Caledron slammed the new Arizona immigration law as discriminatory.

This is hilarious coming from a President of the country with the continent’s most inhumane immigration policies – which includes allowing local police to extort money from visitors, race quotas, and deporting illegals without hearing.

Obama’s response? Diplomatic nicety. The President was probably reluctant to get in a fight with Calderon in front of the cameras, but he didn’t have to go far as to assert for Calderon’s pleasure that “it’s not our borders but our bonds that define us.”

Cute.

Among the President’s duties is protecting and defending those borders, which do exist and are important. Behind the scenes, one hopes Obama had the guts to tell Calderon he should worry about fixing his own country’s heartless, racist, mean spiriting immigration laws before criticizing American law while on American soil.

And the same can be said about the army of other foreign neoprogs, who have trumped up a huge propaganda campaign out of the Arizone immigration law. All or most of the foreign hypocrites have long been strangely silent about their own countries' quite routine paper-checking and enforcement activities.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

I'm weak on the whole neon frog thing.

[Toontown]

It's a documented, scrutinized, and self-evident ideological phenomenon. I'm surprised you haven't noticed. I assure you that you would have noticed if you ever bucked the neoprog line in an atheist forum. Atheist forums are crawling with them.


http://www.telospress.com/main/index.php?main_page=news

Oxymoronic Left, new barbarism, neoprogressivism, red fascism—Lévy does not keep to a single name for it. What he does make clear is that it is emerging from the cadaverous Left, the "backward falling corpse" (which was the book's French title). Now revivified, the zombie Left stalks liberal society. It's more than a patchwork of dead ideas. It's an energized, totalitarian mass movement, marching stiffly, arms stretched forward, into the twenty-first century.

And the poster-child from whom much of the pseudo-moralistic finger-pointing of the neoprogs sprang:

http://reason.com/archives/2005/04/01/d ... ng-chomsky

[Gawdzilla Sama]

"It's a documented, scrutinized, and self-evident ideological phenomenon." Ah, like Tea Baggies? I see.

[Tails Turrosaki]

Neoprog, by Google, is:

Neo-progressive rock (or often shortened to neo-prog, not to be confused with the significantly more modern New prog)

So we are genres of music?... Enough of this shit. You must be a theist or something.

[Toontown]

Neoprog, by Google, is:

Neo-progressive rock (or often shortened to neo-prog, not to be confused with the significantly more modern New prog)

So we are genres of music?... Enough of this shit. You must be a theist or something.

Changing the subject again? How typical.

I don't care what Google says. Here's the definition I'm using, shortened to "neoprog".

http://www.telospress.com/main/index.php?main_page=news

Oxymoronic Left, new barbarism, neoprogressivism, red fascism—Lévy does not keep to a single name for it. What he does make clear is that it is emerging from the cadaverous Left, the "backward falling corpse" (which was the book's French title). Now revivified, the zombie Left stalks liberal society. It's more than a patchwork of dead ideas. It's an energized, totalitarian mass movement, marching stiffly, arms stretched forward, into the twenty-first century.

And the poster-child from whom much of the pseudo-moralistic finger-pointing of the neoprogs sprang:

http://reason.com/archives/2005/04/01/d ... ng-chomsky

[Toontown]

"It's a documented, scrutinized, and self-evident ideological phenomenon." Ah, like Tea Baggies? I see.

How typical. You asked, I answered. And now you're dodging the answer with the typical teabagger attack. Why?

Can't you come up with something more original than teabagger-pointing? You people have been ragging on teabaggers for months now.

[Feck]

"It's a documented, scrutinized, and self-evident ideological phenomenon." Ah, like Tea Baggies? I see.

How typical. You asked, I answered. And now you're dodging the answer with the typical teabagger attack. Why?

Can't you come up with something more original than teabagger-pointing? You people have been ragging on teabaggers for months now.

That's because we like a good joke .

[Toontown]

You like a good joke? Here's one. Apparently bald hypocrisy is a fundamental staple of South American political discourse.

http://michellemalkin.com/2010/04/28/po ... al-aliens/


“Having traveled into Mexico last year to various cities on the Baja Peninsula, a distance of more than 1,000 miles round-trip, we were stopped more than 20 times at various checkpoints. At most of those stops, we were told to exit the vehicle and we were subjected to rigorous inspections. Where does Mexican President Felipe Calderón get off with his hypocritical outrage at our Senate Bill 1070?”

And that's just the tip of the Mexican hypocrite's iceberg:

– Illegal entry into the country is equivalent to a felony punishable by two years’ imprisonment. Document fraud is subject to fine and imprisonment; so is alien marriage fraud. Evading deportation is a serious crime; illegal re-entry after deportation is punishable by ten years’ imprisonment. Foreigners may be kicked out of the country without due process and the endless bites at the litigation apple that illegal aliens are afforded in our country (see, for example, President Obama’s illegal alien aunt — a fugitive from deportation for eight years who is awaiting a second decision on her previously rejected asylum claim).

– Law enforcement officials at all levels — by national mandate — must cooperate to enforce immigration laws, including illegal alien arrests and deportations. The Mexican military is also required to assist in immigration enforcement operations. Native-born Mexicans are empowered to make citizens’ arrests of illegal aliens and turn them in to authorities.

– Ready to show your papers? Mexico’s National Catalog of Foreigners tracks all outside tourists and foreign nationals. A National Population Registry tracks and verifies the identity of every member of the population, who must carry a citizens’ identity card. Visitors who do not possess proper documents and identification are subject to arrest as illegal aliens.

And there's more. Much more. Mexico stinks. No wonder they all want out of the stinking hellhole. I can't imagine what would possess American tourists to go there.

The neoprogs' answer? Open the borders. Head em up. Move em north. Git them doggies rollin. RAWHIDE!

Disunited states of North Gottabananaupourasses, here we come.

[Hermit]

Oh, Coito ergo sum, where are you? Got someone here I would like you to meet.

[Fact-Man]

You like a good joke? Here's one. Apparently bald hypocrisy is a fundamental staple of South American political discourse.

http://michellemalkin.com/2010/04/28/po ... al-aliens/

“Having traveled into Mexico last year to various cities on the Baja Peninsula, a distance of more than 1,000 miles round-trip, we were stopped more than 20 times at various checkpoints. At most of those stops, we were told to exit the vehicle and we were subjected to rigorous inspections. Where does Mexican President Felipe Calderón get off with his hypocritical outrage at our Senate Bill 1070?”

There's only three towns on Baja that can lay claim to the status of "city," and they are Tijuana, Ensenada, and La Paz, which is 900 miles south of the border. TJ is at the border and Ensenada is 100 miles south of it.

The Baja peninsula is a thousand miles from the US border at Tijuana to the Cape at Los Cabos, hence Ms. Malkin could not have made it as far as La Paz in her "1,000 mile round trip" on the peninsula. The best she could have done was to visit Tijuana and Ensenada, because below that there's not one town with more than about a thousand residents until you get to La Paz, and most of them don't boast more than a few hundred, and there's not that many of them. Here, I can run them off for you because I know them by heart, having driven the Baja highway some 40 times since 1976: From TJ south, Ensenada, San Quintin, El Rosario, Catavina, Guerro Negro, San Ignacio, Santa Rosalita, Mulege, Loreto, Ciudad Constitucion, and La Paz. There's a few inconsequential villages between these towns, but not many (Baja is, afterall, a wilderness).

Based on this I'd question the veracity of Ms. Malkin's reporting.

And that's just the tip of the Mexican hypocrite's iceberg:

– Illegal entry into the country is equivalent to a felony punishable by two years’ imprisonment. Document fraud is subject to fine and imprisonment; so is alien marriage fraud. Evading deportation is a serious crime; illegal re-entry after deportation is punishable by ten years’ imprisonment. Foreigners may be kicked out of the country without due process and the endless bites at the litigation apple that illegal aliens are afforded in our country (see, for example, President Obama’s illegal alien aunt — a fugitive from deportation for eight years who is awaiting a second decision on her previously rejected asylum claim).

– Law enforcement officials at all levels — by national mandate — must cooperate to enforce immigration laws, including illegal alien arrests and deportations. The Mexican military is also required to assist in immigration enforcement operations. Native-born Mexicans are empowered to make citizens’ arrests of illegal aliens and turn them in to authorities.

– Ready to show your papers? Mexico’s National Catalog of Foreigners tracks all outside tourists and foreign nationals. A National Population Registry tracks and verifies the identity of every member of the population, who must carry a citizens’ identity card. Visitors who do not possess proper documents and identification are subject to arrest as illegal aliens.

And there's more. Much more. Mexico stinks. No wonder they all want out of the stinking hellhole. I can't imagine what would possess American tourists to go there.

The neoprogs' answer? Open the borders. Head em up. Move em north. Git them doggies rollin. RAWHIDE!

Disunited states of North Gottabananaupourasses, here we come.

If you had a clue about Mexico you'd know that the legal provisions you mention are throwbacks to the country's turbulent Revolutionary days around the turn of the 19th century and you'd know they are rarely used or enforced in today's Mexico. At any one time there can be as many as 30,000 tourists in Cabo or Puerto Vallarta or Cancun, and none of them ever get rousted by a cop ... unless they become drunk and disorderly, which does happen from time to time.

It is true that one will encounter Militar checkpoints on the Baja highway, I went through six of them going south on my last trip to Cabo and four on my way north headed home. They aren't always in the same location and their number varies. They serve a variety of purposes, from disinfecting tires on tourist vehicles to checking visas to searching for drugs and weapons, mainly the latter, which are smuggled into Mexico down Baja in some profusion. They are manned by very young Mexican Soldados who are courteous to the man and who rarely ask you to get out of your vehicle. I rode a motorcycle my last trip down and they usually just waved me through.

On my way home I ran into a group of about two-dozen Canadian motorcyclists at Catavina who were on their way south to Cabo. There were no worries or fears or concerns in evidence. They too were experienced Baja hands.

I have been visiting Mexico since I was 14 years old living in Long Beach, California, where I grew up. We'd go to the bullfights in TJ, to the beach at Rosarito, and to the cantina's in Ensenada. Always had a great time. In the mid-60's I began spending winters in Mexico, first in Puerto Vallarta and Rincon de Guyabitos and Tenacatita Bay, then in the 70's, 80's and 90's at Cabo, then in the 2000's at Yelapa, Escondido, and Puerto Angel on the West Coast. I've traveled far and wide throughout the country on many long sojourns via motorhome or motorcycle.

In all I figure I've spent ten years of my life living in Mexico. I currently hold the Mexican equivalent of a Green Card and will be getting Mexican citizenhip next year. In all my time in Mexico I've never been rousted by a cop or any officer of the law, nor robbed by bandidos. I did get one traffic ticket ... for crossing a double center line, cost me $100. I have found the Mexican people to be generous, kind and decent, and almost always of good cheer. But note that I do not frequent border towns, where things are not the same as they are in the hinterlands. I also avoid Mexico City like the plague, way too many people for my tastes. Give me Oaxaca or San Cristobal de las Casas.

Mexicans aren't stupid, they know the tourist trade brings $billions into their country and it is their every desire to ensure that this trade continues unabated and keeps growing. They know this won't happen if Canadians and Americans do not enjoy their time in the country. And because of this they do everything they can do ensure that visitors do indeed have a good time and leave wanting to return.

I take it that your rather intensely negative views of Mexico are solely predicated on what you've read, as opposed to what you've experienced. It does not sound to me like you've ever stepped foot in the country and are relying on others to inform your views, probably not a good thing when your views are so strongly stated and so negative and so allegedly authoritative.

Myself, I love Mexico and her people and her culture and her great and wondrous landscapes and her indigenous folk, like the Zapotecs. It is by no means a perfect country, it has its share of warts and lousy conditions, and I do not think it was wise of President Calderon to criticize Arizon'as new immigration law while he was in Washington.

But on the whole, I'll take Mexico over Israel or Colombia or Thailand or Taiwan or South Korea or Zimbabwe any day of the week.

[Link]

And there's more. Much more. Mexico stinks. No wonder they all want out of the stinking hellhole. I can't imagine what would possess American tourists to go there.

Tits and tequila?

[RappingAgnostic]

I heard something about Mexicans......?

[Toontown]

And there's more. Much more. Mexico stinks. No wonder they all want out of the stinking hellhole. I can't imagine what would possess American tourists to go there.

Tits and tequila?

Yeah, the bitches will get you all tanked up on tequila so their associated thugs can relieve you of any valuables you may have on your person. And you better hope they don't suspect your family is wealthy, or you're off to kidnap city.

[Trolldor]

Look on the bright side. If you're American your fat ass is too heavy to lug anywhere.