Incidentally, is there a name for the belief that there is "nothing more"?Coito ergo sum wrote:I would explain to him that atheism is not a belief that there is "nothing more."
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Probably more than one, but the first one that came to mind was nihilism.Pappa wrote:Incidentally, is there a name for the belief that there is "nothing more"?Coito ergo sum wrote:I would explain to him that atheism is not a belief that there is "nothing more."
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That book should be required reading for all middle school and high school students. If anyone reading this has kids, and doesn't have this book in the house. Buy it. And force your kids to read it.FBM wrote:Hiya, and welcome traditionaldrummer!![]()
I'd recommend avoiding arguments with your friend (sounds like you do that already) because interpersonal dynamics too often come into play to cloud reason. If I were in your shoes, I'd make a deal with him/her: I'd offer to read one of the wing-nut books in exchange for him/her reading Carl Sagan's Demon-Haunted World.
Also, suggest this: http://www.scientificamerican.com/artic ... ainty-bias
Edit: I forgot my main suggestion! Invite him/her to join up here. We'll take care of the problem... Trust us...
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Coito ergo sum wrote:Probably more than one, but the first one that came to mind was nihilism.Pappa wrote:Incidentally, is there a name for the belief that there is "nothing more"?Coito ergo sum wrote:I would explain to him that atheism is not a belief that there is "nothing more."

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Eliminative materialistic monism?Coito ergo sum wrote:Probably more than one, but the first one that came to mind was nihilism.Pappa wrote:Incidentally, is there a name for the belief that there is "nothing more"?Coito ergo sum wrote:I would explain to him that atheism is not a belief that there is "nothing more."
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You can't reject atheism because it is not a belief. Once you reject all gods, atheism is left - just as once you remove all light, darkness is left. It is simply a description of the default, null hypothesis of religious belief.
"Rejecting' atheism, while not believing in any god or gods, is as perverse as refusing to call yourself naked after removing all your clothes.
"Rejecting' atheism, while not believing in any god or gods, is as perverse as refusing to call yourself naked after removing all your clothes.
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Yes, yes. But first I need to show you this venomous fish!
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Salman Rushdie
You talk to God, you're religious. God talks to you, you're psychotic.
House MD
Who needs a meaning anyway, I'd settle anyday for a very fine view.
Sandy Denny
This is the wrong forum for bluffing

Paco
Yes, yes. But first I need to show you this venomous fish!
Calilasseia
I think we should do whatever Pawiz wants.
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Bella squats momentarily then waddles on still peeing, like a horse
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