response to emerging independent science on the 9/11 attacks

[Feck]

Well I didn't get my thoughts from anywhere else than Your posts ..and in reply you give give me Magic and Pyramids and a vague bit about me spreading myth ....


Just as a theist will not accept anything thing that tends to disagree with his view and keeps moving the goal posts so do you .
Every time you lose a point you don't admit it ,you just move on and bring up another fallacy that We have to pull apart and disprove .

NOTHING, No Evidence at all would convince you, would it?

If a member said they were an Eye witness to the 757 hitting the Pentagon , would just say they were lying ?
You Don't even have a coherent theory just lots of "Oh this looks a bit strange MUST be a conspiracy "

Why don't you go play with the fools on ATS forum with all the people who think the Flu jab kills 5% of the people immediately and Christ is coming back to earth with the aliens .


This thread title should be changed to "My Faith "

[Coito ergo sum]

Well, I totally doubt that you've visited many sites dealing with 9/11 from the skeptics POV.

I've visited plenty. I'm not going to hunt and peck for it. If you have evidence for your assertions, link to the page where it's found. I am not going to do your work for you. It's your job to prove your case, not mine.

I think you've been to a few sites that wheeled out the official storyline, & from there you decided that's enough for you.

Your own baseless speculation does appear to be enough for you in other cases, and here as well.

I know this from yur repeated hollow requests for references for widely known information.

You can either back up your case, or you can't. We can all see which one it is, every time you refuse to provide proof and just say "go out there and research it."

It is as if you ask for references for the heliocentric theory.

If it's that easy, then you should be able to present the proof in seconds.

In 10 seconds I found this on heliocentric theory: http://www.scientificamerican.com/artic ... kepler-iya and here, which contains more sources also: http://msteacher.org/epubs/science/scie ... ience.aspx and there are plenty of sources for Copernicus' own writings, so that we can get a clear understanding of how he came up with the theory and what, exactly, it is based on: for example, http://dbanach.com/copernicus-commentarilous.htm

That took me under 1 minute. If you my request for your proof is "as if" I asked for references of the heliocentric theory, and you are as knowledgeable about the topic as you claim to be, then it should be no problem whatsoever for you to present the proof and answer my very basic questions. You claim you can do it. Yet, you don't. Your silence is deafening, and speaks volumes to all.

If you, or anyone else asks me for links to the heliocentric theory I'd just laugh in your face & say "find it yourself!"

Well, if you asked me to prove heliocentric theory, I would take 10 -30 seconds to link you to the proof, which I did above. That's the difference between you and me. You ask others to defend your arguments for you, and make your cases for you.

Well, that's my response to your silly questions: "Find them yourself,

Then you lose by forfeit. What is offered without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. You won't produce evidence, then your point can be dismissed.

I can't be arsed doing your research for you,

I can't be arsed making your arguments for you, and doing your research for you. You're the one making the assertion. You're the one with the burden of proof. If you choose not to meet that burden, then that is up to you. But, I'm certainly not going to find the support for your arguments for you. That's your job.

when you're obviously not even interested in finding out the truth for yourself.

I am interested in backing up the assertions I make. If you spent as much time providing the proof you say is as available and easy to find as evidence for the heliocentric theory of the solar system, then you'd have already presented the evidence by now. Instead, you prefer to evade and obfuscate. You prefer to shift the burden to the other side to prove your case for you.

Even elementary stuff, such as the velocity of the ejecta is beyond your ken.

Then educate me. What was the velocity of the ejecta?

The reason is because you're simply cosy in your ga-ga land, reminiscent of the Louis Armstrong song "It's a wonderful world".

More static. Non sequitur.

Maybe when your feet are held to the fire you'll realize that the world is not all peaches & cream....not even for Americans.

More static. Non sequitur.

BTW, that goes for the rest of you too. So stew in your back-slappin' company till the rude awakening!

More static. Non sequitur.

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic" Arthur C. Clarke

More static. Non sequitur.

You make an assertion. You back it up. I'm not hear to do your work for you. I've thrown down the gauntlet. You've refused to pick it up.

[owtth]

Maybe when your feet are held to the fire you'll realize that the world is not all peaches & cream....not even for Americans.
BTW, that goes for the rest of you too. So stew in your back-slappin' company till the rude awakening!
"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic" Arthur C. Clarke

[Ian]

If a member said they were an Eye witness to the 757 hitting the Pentagon , would just say they were lying ?
You Don't even have a coherent theory just lots of "Oh this looks a bit strange MUST be a conspiracy "

Galaxian still hasn't addressed the cruise missile point of the grand conspiracy, other than to infer that there wasn't enough proof of an airplane (nevermind that I know an eyewitness who literally saw plane wreckage in what used to be his Pentagon office). And I'm not sure I even want to know why he thinks the 4th aircraft was shot down.

In a related matter, I found a turd on my back porch this morning. Yes, the cat had accidentally been locked outside all night, but I find the idea that it was simply the cat who did it to be hard to believe. I doubt my cat would've done anything so sophistacated - she usually takes a dump down by the woods. It was probably my neighbor's teenage son. I've never trusted him, so it stands to reason that it was really he who conspired to leave a turd on my back porch, knowing that he could blame it on my cat. And wouldn't you know it, my wife's already a Denier of this theory.

[Rum]

Pardon? Did somebody say something?

[Thinking Aloud]

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It works, doesn't it?

[Clinton Huxley]

10 PRINT "Blah blah baseless assertion blah blah witless ad-hominem blah blah refusal to link to any real evidence blah blah supposition blah blah delusion of grandeur blah blah innuendo disguised as fact blah blah wriggle blah blah wriggle blah blah wibble blah blah wibble."

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[Feck]

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It works, doesn't it?

It Does Know who were we speaking to ?

[Rum]

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It works, doesn't it?

It Does Know who were we speaking to ?

Pardon me?

[Rum]

Oh! I just discovered what really happened on 9/11! From the goldmine that is http://www.fstdt.com/QuoteArchives.aspx ... &archive=1
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Quote# 70089

A dark secret that most people don't know is that offerings are regularly made to Lucifer in the occult. I've heard Heavy Metal Rock bands, like Megadeth, refer to their latest album as “an offering.” Each album is an offering to Satan. Sex is synonymous with the occult, Luciferian worship and Satanism. The MTV video for FEARLESS, presents Taylor Swift as if being offered. Stupid Americans don't even realize what is going on. MTV's videos, thousands of them, portray women wearing seductive clothing, in luring positions, as if being offered in an occult ritual. It is creepy if you understand the occult. If you scoff and don't believe what I'm saying, it is only because you are woefully ignorant of how the occult works, and their demonic agenda and the DEPTHS OF SATAN (Revelation 2:24).

Some think the 911-attacks were actually an offering to Satan, clearly marked by the occult symbol featured at the 911 Memorial. I would tend to agree. People who refuse to study are doomed to be fools the rest of their life.

David J. Stewart, Jesus-is-Savior 66 Comments

[traditionaldrummer]

David J. Stewart, Jesus-is-Savior 66 Comments

Hey, this is coming from the guitar player for the Eurythmics, so it has to be true.

[JimC]

Now I'm not sure about this one......But on what floor were these charges placed that were used in the controlled demolition ?
There was no sign of them on any of the video I would have thought that the windows would have blown out if demolition charges were detonated of enough size to blast out the core steel work ? And Thermite would have shown up as a Massive out rush of hot air ,and therefore smoke ?

The towers seemed to collapse from the area damaged by the planes ? Just how would you wire and set charges to do this ?

They spend days in preparation work to drop a building. This was all done in secret with no trace and nobody saw anything ???

Pshawww....he doesn't have to come up with his own explanation, he just has to "cast doubt" on the "official version" and then conclude "controlled demolition is the most likely alternative."

I absolutely love the "Pshawww"

For a young man, CES, you have a positive gift for old codger talk!

[Coito ergo sum]

Now I'm not sure about this one......But on what floor were these charges placed that were used in the controlled demolition ?
There was no sign of them on any of the video I would have thought that the windows would have blown out if demolition charges were detonated of enough size to blast out the core steel work ? And Thermite would have shown up as a Massive out rush of hot air ,and therefore smoke ?

The towers seemed to collapse from the area damaged by the planes ? Just how would you wire and set charges to do this ?

They spend days in preparation work to drop a building. This was all done in secret with no trace and nobody saw anything ???

Pshawww....he doesn't have to come up with his own explanation, he just has to "cast doubt" on the "official version" and then conclude "controlled demolition is the most likely alternative."

I absolutely love the "Pshawww"

For a young man, CES, you have a positive gift for old codger talk!

You talkin' wise, whipper-snapper? Straighten up and fly right, or I'll give ya the back of me hand!

[charlou]

Pardon? Did somebody say something?

It works, doesn't it?

It Does Know who were we speaking to ?

Pardon me?

Why? What did you do?

[Coito ergo sum]