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Re: The UK election thread

Post by klr » Tue May 11, 2010 10:57 am

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Elessarina wrote:A coalition with Lib-Lab would have to bring in further parties to hold the country to ransom as well...
It's not ransom. It's just asking for support on specific policies in exchange for support on others. It's compromise.
... but you can count out the SNP:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/poli ... 674214.stm
Labour MP rules out deal with SNP

A leading Labour MP has said a potential coalition deal between his party and the Lib Dems would not include the Scottish National Party.

Douglas Alexander said he could not envisage circumstances in which Labour would enter an agreement with the SNP.

Mr Alexander, one of Gordon Brown's closest allies, said the parties had "fundamental" differences.

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Re: The UK election thread

Post by Pappa » Tue May 11, 2010 11:03 am

Mr Alexander, one of Gordon Brown's closest allies, said the parties had "fundamental" differences.
Interesting. I wonder what that are. Labour have had a perfectly happy and workable coalition with Plaid in the Welsh Assembly (even though there was a huge amount of concern that it would be unworkable before the agreement was made). Generally, people here are really happy with the way they've worked together so well.... and Plaid's policies are ultimately very similar to the SNP's.
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Re: The UK election thread

Post by klr » Tue May 11, 2010 11:05 am

Pappa wrote:
Mr Alexander, one of Gordon Brown's closest allies, said the parties had "fundamental" differences.
Interesting. I wonder what that are. Labour have had a perfectly happy and workable coalition with Plaid in the Welsh Assembly (even though there was a huge amount of concern that it would be unworkable before the agreement was made). Generally, people here are really happy with the way they've worked together so well.... and Plaid's policies are ultimately very similar to the SNP's.
I suspect that working at a regional level (or lower down at the council level) is not the same as working at the national level, for a number of reasons.
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Re: The UK election thread

Post by Pappa » Tue May 11, 2010 11:24 am

klr wrote:
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Mr Alexander, one of Gordon Brown's closest allies, said the parties had "fundamental" differences.
Interesting. I wonder what that are. Labour have had a perfectly happy and workable coalition with Plaid in the Welsh Assembly (even though there was a huge amount of concern that it would be unworkable before the agreement was made). Generally, people here are really happy with the way they've worked together so well.... and Plaid's policies are ultimately very similar to the SNP's.
I suspect that working at a regional level (or lower down at the council level) is not the same as working at the national level, for a number of reasons.
It's probably because they just don't like Alex Salmond. :hehe:
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Re: The UK election thread

Post by Hermit » Tue May 11, 2010 11:27 am

Elessarina wrote:The rich poor divide has increased under labour
Yes, and the Tories would of course never let that happen. Give them a shot at government, I say. They are sure to reverse that trend.
Elessarina wrote:brown and his desire for power is unsettling
Oh! Is that why he announced that he will relinquish his leadership of the party before the next Labour convention in September? Pappa mentioned it, you totally ignored his link.
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Re: The UK election thread

Post by Feck » Tue May 11, 2010 11:30 am

Pappa wrote:
klr wrote:
Pappa wrote:
Mr Alexander, one of Gordon Brown's closest allies, said the parties had "fundamental" differences.
Interesting. I wonder what that are. Labour have had a perfectly happy and workable coalition with Plaid in the Welsh Assembly (even though there was a huge amount of concern that it would be unworkable before the agreement was made). Generally, people here are really happy with the way they've worked together so well.... and Plaid's policies are ultimately very similar to the SNP's.
I suspect that working at a regional level (or lower down at the council level) is not the same as working at the national level, for a number of reasons.
It's probably because they just don't like Alex Salmond. :hehe:

I did Mention the SNP earlier in this thread . Funny how Mentioning Alex always gets a laugh .
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Re: The UK election thread

Post by Pappa » Tue May 11, 2010 11:37 am

Feck wrote:I did Mention the SNP earlier in this thread . Funny how Mentioning Alex always gets a laugh .
I think he's great. I wish more politicians had the wit and gall he does.
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Re: The UK election thread

Post by Elessarina » Tue May 11, 2010 11:55 am

A Lib-Lab pact would "almost guarantee" a downgrade of the UK's top-notch credit rating because both parties oppose early spending cuts to reduce the government deficit, according to analysts at BNP Paribas. They advised investors to sell the pound against the dollar.

"A Labour/Liberal government is the least-liked option by markets and would almost guarantee a downgrade of the UK sovereign," the analysts said. This is because "both parties agree that early expenditure cuts could harm the economy."

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Re: The UK election thread

Post by Pappa » Tue May 11, 2010 12:32 pm

Elessarina wrote:
A Lib-Lab pact would "almost guarantee" a downgrade of the UK's top-notch credit rating because both parties oppose early spending cuts to reduce the government deficit, according to analysts at BNP Paribas. They advised investors to sell the pound against the dollar.

"A Labour/Liberal government is the least-liked option by markets and would almost guarantee a downgrade of the UK sovereign," the analysts said. This is because "both parties agree that early expenditure cuts could harm the economy."

Woo!
I've been unable to work out if BNP Paribas are a significant opinion.
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Re: The UK election thread

Post by Elessarina » Tue May 11, 2010 12:46 pm

Pappa wrote: I've been unable to work out if BNP Paribas are a significant opinion.
Probably not nor are the markets indicative of our financial position worldwide. The fact that the pound slid in value on reaction to Labour and Lib Dem talks is wholly unimportant..

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Re: The UK election thread

Post by Pappa » Tue May 11, 2010 1:00 pm

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Pappa wrote: I've been unable to work out if BNP Paribas are a significant opinion.
Probably not nor are the markets indicative of our financial position worldwide. The fact that the pound slid in value on reaction to Labour and Lib Dem talks is wholly unimportant..
I detect sarcasm. :ask:
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Re: The UK election thread

Post by RuleBritannia » Tue May 11, 2010 1:06 pm

Pappa wrote:I've been unable to work out if BNP Paribas are a significant opinion.
Probably not nor are the markets indicative of our financial position worldwide. The fact that the pound slid in value on reaction to Labour and Lib Dem talks is wholly unimportant..
I think these market "experts" (none of them skilled enough to foresee the crash in the first place) should keep their fucking noses out of politics, and quit trying to scare the public with their wild guesses about what would happen if such and such happens.
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Re: The UK election thread

Post by Elessarina » Tue May 11, 2010 1:09 pm

Pappa wrote:
Elessarina wrote:
Pappa wrote: I've been unable to work out if BNP Paribas are a significant opinion.
Probably not nor are the markets indicative of our financial position worldwide. The fact that the pound slid in value on reaction to Labour and Lib Dem talks is wholly unimportant..
I detect sarcasm. :ask:

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Post by redunderthebed » Tue May 11, 2010 1:12 pm

Tories almost have no chance of forming govt i'm so happy. :woot:
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Re: The UK election thread

Post by redunderthebed » Tue May 11, 2010 1:16 pm

RuleBritannia wrote:
Pappa wrote:I've been unable to work out if BNP Paribas are a significant opinion.
Probably not nor are the markets indicative of our financial position worldwide. The fact that the pound slid in value on reaction to Labour and Lib Dem talks is wholly unimportant..
I think these market "experts" (none of them skilled enough to foresee the crash in the first place) should keep their fucking noses out of politics, and quit trying to scare the public with their wild guesses about what would happen if such and such happens.
A-fucking-men :clap:
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