The UK election thread

[klr]

Then the next "obvious" option would be Labour+Lib Dem, which might by then be the only valid option.

Except that Lib-Lab still wouldn't have a majority.

Of course. But it would be the only thing left ...

[Pappa]

Then the next "obvious" option would be Labour+Lib Dem, which might by then be the only valid option.

Except that Lib-Lab still wouldn't have a majority.

Of course. But it would be the only thing left ...

Lab-Tory.

[beige]

Then the next "obvious" option would be Labour+Lib Dem, which might by then be the only valid option.

Except that Lib-Lab still wouldn't have a majority.

Of course. But it would be the only thing left ...

Lab-Tory.

Considering their convergence in policy, that might be a viable alternative.

[klr]

Then the next "obvious" option would be Labour+Lib Dem, which might by then be the only valid option.

Except that Lib-Lab still wouldn't have a majority.

Of course. But it would be the only thing left ...

Lab-Tory.

Considering their convergence in policy, that might be a viable alternative.

I imagine there's a better chance of a formation of pigs flying over Mecca than this happening, but you never know ...

[Clinton Huxley]

Haha, Lab-Tory Pact - would be almost worth doing just to piss off the Lib Dems. Almost.

[beige]

Con: 10,681,417/305 - 35,021 vps
Lab: 8,601,441/258 - 33,333 vps
Lib: 6,805,66/57 - 119,397 vps

That gives:
Con: 36.1% vote for 44% seats.
Lab: 29.1% vote for 39.6% seats.
Lib: 23% vote for 8.7% seats.

That makes one convservative vote worth 3.409 liberal votes, and one labour vote worth 3.58 liberal ones.

and they wonder why young people don't bother voting.

What's the fucking point. Mindless fucking mainstream media partisanship wins out in the end anyway.

[Trolldor]

However, Lib has the power there for one reason - they're the majority holders. Neither Labor nor Conservatives hold a large enough majority, so any policies will need the support of the liberals.

[RuleBritannia]

Well the election is over, 649 out of 650 seats have been decided (the final constituency election is on May 27).

306 Conservative
258 Labour
057 Liberal Democrat

The magic number is 326. But but bare in mind that Sinn Fein don't take their seats (of shich they won five), and the Speaker, as theoretical political neutral, doesn't vote on legislation. So in reality there are only 644 seats (643 currently), meaning the magic number would be 323.

The SDLP (won 3 seats) takes the Labour whip in the Commons and so can added to the Labour tally I think. And the DUP (won 8 seats) is likely to side with the Tories.

A combined Labour, Liberal Democrat and SDLP would be 318 seats. And a combined Tory and DUP would be 314 seats.

Although in the popular vote it would be 36.7% (Con) to 52.4% (Lib/Lab).

Which pretty much leaves the ballance of power in the hands of the Plaid Cymru-SNP "alliance", with the combined total of 9 seats. Whom, I think, would not enter formal coalition with either side, but are more likely to vote with Lib/Lab on an issue-by-issue case.

So I think the parliament is pretty much as "hung" as it could possibly be.

[Elessarina]

Well the election is over, 649 out of 650 seats have been decided (the final constituency election is on May 27).

306 Conservative
258 Labour
057 Liberal Democrat


Which pretty much leaves the ballance of power in the hands of the Plaid Cymru-SNP "alliance", with the combined total of 9 seats. Whom, I think, would not enter formal coalition with either side, but are more likely to vote with Lib/Lab on an issue-by-issue case.

So I think the parliament is pretty much as "hung" as it could possibly be.

And Plaid Cymru want 300 million because they think they've been short-changed... .... erm.. yeah ok..

[Pappa]

And Plaid Cymru want 300 million because they think they've been short-changed... .... erm.. yeah ok..

Plaid do have some pretty good reasons for asking for that 300 million. Firstly, they're not asking for any of the other 3 billion that's being cut, they just want the 0.3 billion. The reason they're asking for that figure is because that's the amount the independent Holtham Commission says Wales should have, the amount is also and backed up by the recent budget report.

They're not trying to get more money, just the fair share.

[Geoff]

So I think the parliament is pretty much as "hung" as it could possibly be.

Which means the government can't do anything.

Sounds good to me...

[Elessarina]

And Plaid Cymru want 300 million because they think they've been short-changed... .... erm.. yeah ok..

Plaid do have some pretty good reasons for asking for that 300 million. Firstly, they're not asking for any of the other 3 billion that's being cut, they just want the 0.3 billion. The reason they're asking for that figure is because that's the amount the independent Holtham Commission says Wales should have, the amount is also and backed up by the recent budget report.

They're not trying to get more money, just the fair share.

Sorry Pappa but if Wales wants their own parliament they should have that and manage themselves. Having Wales and Scotland involved in an English election where members actions do not affect their own constituents and have influence over what happens in England is an unfair system. Wales and Scotland have no prescription charges yet we do in England still there are other issues as well. The whole system is fucked up

[Pappa]

Sorry Pappa but if Wales wants their own parliament they should have that and manage themselves. Having Wales and Scotland involved in an English election where members actions do not affect their own constituents and have influence over what happens in England is an unfair system. Wales and Scotland have no prescription charges yet we do in England still there are other issues as well. The whole system is fucked up

Well, as far as I know Wales doesn't want it's own parliament as yet. Maybe we will want that one day, but it doesn't seem to be all that popular at this time.

We have free prescriptions, but the money comes out of our health budget, not some extra pot. We choose to lose out elsewhere. That's the point of the autonomy we have in Wales, a level of self-determination.

Plaid are asking for a fair deduction, not extra money. Just because it's the nationalist party that's asking for it, it doesn't mean it's wrong. Who else is going to press for a fair budget in Wales? Not any of the welsh MPs from the main Westminster parties, they'll always tow the party line.

[Pappa]

Plus it's not an "English election".

[RuleBritannia]

From BBC:

If you think David Cameron is frustrated at finding himself without a majority, spare a thought for poor Great Yarmouth council candidate Bob Peck. Tied on 1,034 votes with Labour opponent Charlie Marsden, he was offered a pack of cards by the returning officer and told the candidate who drew the highest number would win. Mr Peck picked a three while his rival drew a lucky seven to claim the seat. Barmy? Maybe, but it's all within the rules.