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by Pappa » Fri May 07, 2010 11:57 am
Horwood Beer-Master wrote:You could always get Labour in, but Brown out, under some anti-tory coalition deal.
Nick Clegg + Vince Cable at the top.... mostly Labour MPs in the cabinet....

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by Pappa » Fri May 07, 2010 11:58 am
klr wrote:The problem is, Labour stood for election with GB as its leader. It would be "undemocratic" for him to now step down and be replaced by someone else for whom the public did not get a chance to vote for as leader of the Labour party. Another catch-22 ...
Maybe "undemocratic" but not unconstitutional.
If he did stick around, he'd be stabbed in the back and ousted before you could say "Ow!" anyway.
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by Coito ergo sum » Fri May 07, 2010 11:59 am
Elessarina wrote:klr wrote:The Tories + Unionists < Overall Majority
Labout + Lib Dems < Overall Majority
The Tories + Lib Dems > Overall Majority, but very, very unlikely to come to pass.
So what's going to happen?

I have no idea.. but the thought of Brown in No 10 for another term makea me want to cry. The man has NEVER been elected to power how on earth can he remain there?
He wasn't elected? Doesn't he have to be an MP to be PM, and as such hasn't he been "elected" the same as any other MP? By winning his riding or district and then having his party pick him as the leader?
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by Geoff » Fri May 07, 2010 11:59 am
Well, I don't know about anyone else, but a hanged Parliament sounds OK to me...
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by Pappa » Fri May 07, 2010 12:01 pm
Geoff wrote:Well, I don't know about anyone else, but a hanged Parliament sounds OK to me...
Even better if we can burn it too.
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by klr » Fri May 07, 2010 12:01 pm
Pappa wrote:klr wrote:The problem is, Labour stood for election with GB as its leader. It would be "undemocratic" for him to now step down and be replaced by someone else for whom the public did not get a chance to vote for as leader of the Labour party. Another catch-22 ...
Maybe "undemocratic" but not unconstitutional.
If he did stick around, he'd be stabbed in the back and ousted before you could say "Ow!" anyway.
Of course, but given the complaints about him not having been elected as a PM in the first place (even though it was widely appreciated before the last election that he might take over from Blair mid-stream), this seems a far more "unrepresentative" course of action.
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by Pappa » Fri May 07, 2010 12:04 pm
klr wrote:Pappa wrote:klr wrote:The problem is, Labour stood for election with GB as its leader. It would be "undemocratic" for him to now step down and be replaced by someone else for whom the public did not get a chance to vote for as leader of the Labour party. Another catch-22 ...
Maybe "undemocratic" but not unconstitutional.
If he did stick around, he'd be stabbed in the back and ousted before you could say "Ow!" anyway.
Of course, but given the complaints about him not having been elected as a PM in the first place (even though it was widely appreciated before the last election that he might take over from Blair mid-stream), this seems a far more "unrepresentative" course of action.
He certainly wouldn't be popular with the people and they'd be happy to see him got rid of ASAP I think too. Would the leader of a sucessful coup then have enough balls to call a general election to give themselves the people's mandate?

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by Coito ergo sum » Fri May 07, 2010 12:08 pm
What's with the Bishops getting a bunch of seats in your Parliament? Can they be part of the coalition? Or, is it just the House of Commons that we're worried about when talking about coalitions and such?
Actually, it would be pretty cool if someone would propose that over here in the States. Maybe have some religious nuttballs propose to reserve 10 seats in our Senate for ministers and priests. It would be fun to have a good year or two of massive outrage and fiery debate over religion.
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by Coito ergo sum » Fri May 07, 2010 12:11 pm
Pappa wrote:Geoff wrote:Well, I don't know about anyone else, but a hanged Parliament sounds OK to me...
Even better if we can burn it too.
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by beige » Fri May 07, 2010 12:18 pm
Well, at least they kicked out Philippa Stroud.

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by Elessarina » Fri May 07, 2010 12:55 pm
Clinton Huxley wrote:
And you have to factor in local council elections, mayoral elections in some places, tea-breaks, paper cuts, etc etc.
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by Clinton Huxley » Fri May 07, 2010 12:56 pm
Elessarina wrote:Clinton Huxley wrote:
And you have to factor in local council elections, mayoral elections in some places, tea-breaks, paper cuts, etc etc.
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by Geoff » Fri May 07, 2010 2:12 pm
klr wrote: Then the next "obvious" option would be Labour+Lib Dem, which might by then be the only valid option.
Except that Lib-Lab still wouldn't have a majority.
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by Elessarina » Fri May 07, 2010 2:52 pm
As Adam Boulton said....Nick Clegg has shown Cameron "a lot of leg". Cameron has offered the Lib dems a deal. I assume they are now in negotiations. This would be an interesting coalition.
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by beige » Fri May 07, 2010 2:56 pm
Elessarina wrote:As Adam Boulton said....Nick Clegg has shown Cameron "a lot of leg". Cameron has offered the Lib dems a deal. I assume they are now in negotiations. This would be an interesting coalition.
Tories better budge on this PR crap.

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