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Re: Evidence for Allah

Post by maiforpeace » Thu Apr 29, 2010 4:33 pm

Charlou wrote:TA, what do/would you do if you saw a person like that in the street and your three year old asked about it?
Indeed. Some people look like that naturally - they are born with deformities.
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Re: Evidence for Allah

Post by Hermit » Thu Apr 29, 2010 4:41 pm

maiforpeace wrote:
Charlou wrote:TA, what do/would you do if you saw a person like that in the street and your three year old asked about it?
Indeed. Some people look like that naturally - they are born with deformities.
Well then, that's a clear justification for burkhas - just in case their faces disturb people, you know?
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Re: Evidence for Allah

Post by Svartalf » Thu Apr 29, 2010 4:41 pm

Feck wrote:
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colubridae wrote:
Bella Fortuna wrote:And sheep for Welshmen.

Did someone say "sheep for a welshman"?

Wellies ready...

:drool: :drool: :drool:
sheep in boots? are Welshmen that twisted?
No silly :nono:
If you're an Aberdeener I'll suspect you of wanting to keep the woollies AND the wellies for yourself :razzle:
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Re: Evidence for Allah

Post by Svartalf » Thu Apr 29, 2010 4:44 pm

colubridae wrote:
Feck wrote:
Svartalf wrote:
colubridae wrote:
Bella Fortuna wrote:And sheep for Welshmen.

Did someone say "sheep for a welshman"?

Wellies ready...

:drool: :drool: :drool:
sheep in boots? are Welshmen that twisted?
No silly :nono:
You put their back legs down your wellies... stops them running off.
Don't you know anything?

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Thank you... no, I didn't know that particular bit... took me all of the year I spent in Dublin just to understand what wellies were, and my godfather from Aberdeen never wore but low shoes in my presence.
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Re: Evidence for Allah

Post by charlou » Thu Apr 29, 2010 4:52 pm

I should post a pic of my wellies sometime ...


... and no, horses hooves don't fit in them Image
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Re: Evidence for Allah

Post by Hermit » Thu Apr 29, 2010 5:02 pm

Our resident trolling poe must be rubbing his hands with glee. Not only has he received mountains of undeserved attention he so craves, but now there is also this bonus: He inadvertently triggered a veritable bunfight of almost devogueian proportions.
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Re: Evidence for Allah

Post by charlou » Thu Apr 29, 2010 5:04 pm

Seraph wrote:Our resident trolling poe must be rubbing his hands with glee. Not only has he received mountains of undeserved attention he so craves, but now there is also this bonus: He inadvertently triggered a veritable bunfight of almost devogueian proportions.
I wouldn't credit mandy with that. ;)
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Re: Evidence for Allah

Post by colubridae » Thu Apr 29, 2010 6:03 pm

Seraph wrote:Our resident trolling poe must be rubbing his hands with glee. Not only has he received mountains of undeserved attention he so craves, but now there is also this bonus: He inadvertently triggered a veritable bunfight of almost devogueian proportions.
Things like that could turn up and need resolution for next time, with or without , mandelmelons.
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Re: Evidence for Allah

Post by Coito ergo sum » Thu Apr 29, 2010 6:24 pm

mandelson wrote:Charlou, that was a man to feck advice only. plus, its not right for me to say it here. kids might be reading this stuff. but to give you a clue. its what micheal douglous did to his wife dr. beth garner played by jeanne tripplehorn. he had balls that why she cant leave him.

coito, im gonna answer your post now. Charlou was trying to take me somewhere else. i aint going with her.
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The existence of beautiful things does not prove that Allah exists.
you are right, i have to give you that one. natural beauty dont finally prove Allah, but its an evidence for him.
It's not evidence for any higher power, whether Allah, Yahweh, Jehovah, Odin, Allfather, Vishnu, or whatever. And, it's most certainly not evidence for one higher power over another. You already believe in Allah and therefore attribute all existence to Allah.
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Why then did he make most of the "Muslim countries" in ugly deserts?
who said deserts are ugly. deserts are really beautiful. so many curves.
The ones in Islam afflicted countries are largely ugly....dry...barren...desolate....deadly...dead and hot wastelands.
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Things we think are pretty are pretty. Things we think are not, aren't. Islam is an ugly thing, for example.
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It's not impossible to conclude that the Allfather made them, either, but we wouldn't do that because there is no evidence that he did.
all father? Allah is the father of all. duh.
Any evidence for that? Some say Yahweh is the father of all, some said the Allfather.
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Bellas genes make her hot.
duh, and who made bellas genes? Allah.
Her genes came from a sperm and an egg. Those were formed through natural biological processes in the testicles of her father and the ovaries of her mother. Her mother and father's ovaries and testicles took chemicals and combined them in such a way that an egg and sperm were formed. When those two things combined, then Bella's genes were completed. The body ingests food which is processed in the stomach and turned into various chemicals in the blood stream. The blood takes these chemicals to the testicles and the ovaries, which manufacture the eggs and the sperm. No gods are involved in making genes.
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My point is that beauty is a value judgment.
it might be, but it might not be. you cant just push your views and say they are the facts. you dont know.
By definition, beauty is a value judgment. It's an assessment of a thing. One person thinks Scarlett Johannsen is beautiful, another thinks she is not so much. Scarlett exists. Whether she is beautiful is purely a matter of opinion.
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If Allah makes beautiful things, then why is Islam so damn horrible?
:I-love-pork:
You didn't answer the question? Why is Islam so horrid? It's an ugly religion. If Allah created it, then he must be butt-ugly too, or evil.

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Re: Evidence for Allah

Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Thu Apr 29, 2010 6:28 pm

CES, I envy your patience in bothering to reply cogently to such an obvious troll so many times. I can only assume you need the practice. It must be obvious that no progress is being made here. :hehe:
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Re: Evidence for Allah

Post by Coito ergo sum » Thu Apr 29, 2010 6:30 pm

Charlou wrote:I work with freaky disfigured people, and with youngsters ... I would not be hiding either from the other.


FFS. :ddpan:
Gotta go with Charlou on this one. Those women have to walk around in public that way, and are under no obligation to hide their faces from three year olds. The explanation to a three year old is quite simple -"something bad happened to her face and it got a big boo boo. When we see people who have big boo boos we are nice to them."

If this guy gets to show his face:

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And this guy...
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Then those poor women should show their faces too. Those women are far more beautiful even with their scars than the demented Muslim psychopaths we have to stomach on a daily basis in the news.

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Re: Evidence for Allah

Post by CJ » Thu Apr 29, 2010 7:55 pm

Charlou wrote:
Thinking Aloud wrote:
Charlou wrote:
Thinking Aloud wrote::whisper: There was a general consensus last time that images like these would be spoilered.
Images like what?

These women look like they've enough courage to face the public. I'm not going to hide them under spoilers.
I don't want to have to explain it to a 3 year old like last time. Thanks.
What do you do out in public with your 3 year old when you come across freaky disfigured people? Ask them to spoiler themselves?
They are people they have no choice. You are an adult posting images and have a choice. The two cases are not comparable.

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Re: Evidence for Allah

Post by CJ » Thu Apr 29, 2010 8:00 pm

Charlou wrote:
Seraph wrote:Our resident trolling poe must be rubbing his hands with glee. Not only has he received mountains of undeserved attention he so craves, but now there is also this bonus: He inadvertently triggered a veritable bunfight of almost devogueian proportions.
I wouldn't credit mandy with that. ;)
Quite right. In fact that almost amounts to a personal insult :hehe:

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Re: Evidence for Allah

Post by MrFungus420 » Fri Apr 30, 2010 8:21 am

mandelson wrote:at first Mr Thinking Aloud said he wanted me to give him Allah. but later he told me he dont really want Allah, he just wants evidence for Allah. i dont know why he wants evidence for Allah but not Allah. but thats his own business. he is a free chap to do whatever he likes. he just wants to see evidence. so thats what ive been doing here,
No, you haven't. Not in any way.
mandelson wrote:giving him evidences one by one. i gave him the first evidence which is that this big wide universe could never have made itself.
So? The universe could not have made itself. Since it didn't exist before it was made, it couldn't make itself because it didn't exist to make itself. It's a completely idiotic claim to say that it did. Who has claimed that it made itself?
mandelson wrote:only one thing could have made it, and thats Allah.
only cone thing could have made it, and that's Zeus.
only cone thing could have made it, and that's Ra.
only cone thing could have made it, and that's the IPU.
only cone thing could have made it, and that's the FSM.

See how easy it is to make an inane claim like that?
mandelson wrote:i have about 5 different evidences which show Allah does exist.
I bet you don't have a single piece of evidence that does so.
mandelson wrote:now im going to give one more evidence.
You can't give more until you first give some.
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Re: Evidence for Allah

Post by MrFungus420 » Fri Apr 30, 2010 8:31 am

mandelson wrote:ok...

second evidence for Allah:
Back up. We need the first one before you can give a second...
mandelson wrote:we all see there are lots of beautiful things right?
no one ever says he does not know any beautiful things.
also, the fact is we all love beauty when we see it.
now you tell me... where does beauty come from? who makes it. who is the best artist.
First of all, as usual, you are using a logical fallacy, poisoning the well.

By asking "who made it", you are making an assumption about the answer and you are eliminating all possible answers that are not "who".

Secondly, "beauty" does not exist. It is a personal judgment based on aesthetics. It is a property that things may have. It is not something that needed to be created. It is not even something that could be created.

So, this is not a piece of evidence.
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