Evidence for Allah - contains images which may disturb

[mandy]

who you chaps calling sock puppet. :pissed:
i think for myself thank you very much. i dont need no one to do the thinking for me.

some of you people are mocking Allah. dont you know who your messin with. he aint not gonna just mock you, he is gonna burn you, and then mock you. or is it the other way around. whatever. you sure are gonna be welldone in any case. you know like a welldone barbequ.

[mandy]

Coito ergo sum:

Disbelief is justified based on the fact that the adherents to these false deities, and yours, can't prove they exist.

that is just bollocks mate. let me tell ys something. you cant say you need no justification for rejecting something. you got to have some kinda evidence for not believing in something, just like you got to have evidence for believing in something. you got that now. you not studied science have you mate? im gonna give you an easy example which out science teacher gave us. lets suppose an astromoner tells ya he believes there is a planet like our earth wizzing around a a far away star. you cant just reject him can you. he might be right. you cant say bollocks to him. if you do everyone will laugh at you.

fucking Quakers could kick your asses.

oh yeah, but american marines couldnt. look how they fled in iraq. if you are right then white house needs to recruit Quakers

the Jews even kick your asses in every war!

get your facts rightmate. you live in a dream world mate. dont you read telegraph or independent? everyone knows that israeli military got its ass kicked in lebanon 2006 so badly that it ran crying to UN to stop the war stop the war stop the war.

Muslims lie to Kafirs - it's a command from your false god.

now you are lying. :pissed:

Muslims are deficient in some way. They must be, or they wouldn't believe the total load of pig droppings that they believe in.

no its you atheists say stupid things. you believe this big universe was created by evolution.

Islam is disgusting.

you wish mate you wish. if islam was so bad as you say, then why is so many people rushing to convert to islam.
come on explain it then. we got a thread for this special topic for this:

http://www.rationalia.com/forum/viewtop ... 23&t=10730

[klr]

who you chaps calling sock puppet. :pissed:
i think for meself thank you very much. i dont need no one to do the thinking for me.

some of you people are mocking Allah. dont you know who your messin with. he aint not gonna just mock you, he is gonna burn you, and then mock you. or is it the other way around. whatever. you sure are gonna be welldone in any case. you know like a welldone barbequ.

Meh.

Am I bovvered?

[Animavore]

some of you people are mocking Allah. dont you know who your messin with. he aint not gonna just mock you, he is gonna burn you, and then mock you. or is it the other way around. whatever. you sure are gonna be welldone in any case. you know like a welldone barbequ.

Allah is such a bitch.

[Tigger]

who you chaps calling sock puppet. :pissed:
i think for myself thank you very much. i dont need no one to do the thinking for me.

some of you people are mocking Allah. dont you know who your messin with. he aint not gonna just mock you, he is gonna burn you, and then mock you. or is it the other way around. whatever. you sure are gonna be welldone in any case. you know like a welldone barbequ.

No evidence for Allah's existence, nor for the red bit there I think. Sorry, Mandy, but you just don't answer people, and you're spouting the same thing all the time. It's pretty funny, but not getting you anywhere. I think your plan failed big time.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

[Coito ergo sum]

Coito ergo sum:

Disbelief is justified based on the fact that the adherents to these false deities, and yours, can't prove they exist.

that is just bollocks mate.

No, it isn't, matey. You can't prove your god exists. The Christians can't believe their god or divine son exists. The Jews can't prove yahweh or elohim exists. The shintoists can't prove their gods exist. The HIndus can't prove their gods exist. They all say "you can't prove my god(s) don't exist." The reality is, that the fact that there is no way to distinguish any of them from make-believe is an inherent justification to not believe in the claims that they exist. Period.

let me tell ys something.

O.k., shoot. Oh, crap, no! I shouldn't say "shoot" when talking to a Muslim...I might get taken literally...

you cant say you need no justification for rejecting something.

Of course you can. Any proposition or assertion that has no justification for itself is worthy of not being accepted.

you got to have some kinda evidence for not believing in something,

No you don't. You never need evidence to "not believe." If you need evidence to "not believe" then you are forced into believing many different unsubstantiated claims, because there are an almost infinite number of claims that we have no evidence for "not believing."

just like you got to have evidence for believing in something.

That's true. There's no reason to accept an assertion as true when there is no reason to accept it as true. It's a truism.

you got that now. you not studied science have you mate?

Much more than you, obviously.

im gonna give you an easy example which out science teacher gave us. lets suppose an astromoner tells ya he believes there is a planet like our earth wizzing around a a far away star. you cant just reject him can you. he might be right. you cant say bollocks to him. if you do everyone will laugh at you.

You don't accept the claim until there is evidence to support it. It's certainly "possible" that there is a planet "like our Earth" wizzing around a far away star; however, until there is evidence we are not justified in "believing" it to be true. Nobody has faith or "believes" there are planets like the Earth revolving around other stars. They hypothesize there are, and then they go out and seek out evidence to support that hypothesis.

So, your example is good in that sense. You hypothesize that there is an Allah, and I can certainly accept that. Now we're waiting for the evidence. I won't accept your hypothesis as a good theory unless and until you have presented empirical, observational evidence that there is an Allah. You haven't. So, your hypothesis, while interesting, is no better than the legion of other hypotheses: the yahweh hypothesis; the Vishnu hypothesis; the Jesus hypothesis; the Mithra hypothesis; the Gaia hypothesis; the new age energy hypothesis; the Force hypothesis.

I don't accept any of those hypotheses, including but not limited to your Allah hypothesis, because there is no empirical or observational evidence to support your assertion. It's just a belief...a wish.

fucking Quakers could kick your asses.

oh yeah, but american marines couldnt.

Our Marines are kicking Muslim extremist ass all over the place. we took over Afghanistan with a few hundred guys and some briefcases full of money. We took Iraq in about three weeks. Your "fighters for Allah" are ineffectual capons.

look how they fled in iraq.

The Muslim soldiers? Absolutely. We wiped the floor with Saddam's army. It wasn't even a contest.

if you are right then white house needs to recruit Quakers

To maybe take care of the children. That's what Muslim soldiers are good for: womens work, like washing dishes, cooking dinner and cleaning up so the real men can relax after doing the real work. Put your apron on, Mandy.

the Jews even kick your asses in every war!

get your facts rightmate. you live in a dream world mate.

LOL - a country, Israel, that was formed in 1947, lbuilt itself into a powerhouse in just a few decades. Now the Muslims ask permission to enter and leave, and ask for Jewish blessings to cross from Gaza to the West Bank. In each war, Israel got bigger, and the Muslims cried of the tragedy and the humiliation they feel. Israel makes you folks their bitch - bend over and take it as they "humiliate" you.

dont you read telegraph or independent? everyone knows that israeli military got its ass kicked in lebanon 2006 so badly that it ran crying to UN to stop the war stop the war stop the war.

LOL! If that's Israel getting their ass kicked, then I'd like to see what happens when they win. What? They flatten the place and salt the ground so nothing ever grows their again?

That must be the new "Muslim" definition of "victory" - you've been "humiliated" so much that now you think that when you're humiliated, you win. What a joke...Muslim armies...you buy all your weapons from the leftover army surpluses of real countries, and think you're big and bad. Fire another Katyusha rocket...lol ...the Russians are counting their money while you fire another rocket into an empty parking lot....

Muslims lie to Kafirs - it's a command from your false god.

now you are lying. :pissed: [/quote]

Not at all, the Prophet will not hold Muslims accountable for lying to the kafir, because it is for the greater good of spreading Islam and/or defeating the kafir. It's in the Koran and Hadith. You know that Mandy. You're a good Muslim. So, stop lying. Oh, that's right, you are allowed to lie to the infidel, so we never know if what you say is the truth or a lie.

Coito ergo sum:

Disbelief is justified based on the fact that the adherents to these false deities, and yours, can't prove they exist.

that is just bollocks mate.

No, it isn't, matey. You can't prove your god exists. The Christians can't believe their god or divine son exists. The Jews can't prove yahweh or elohim exists. The shintoists can't prove their gods exist. The HIndus can't prove their gods exist. They all say "you can't prove my god(s) don't exist." The reality is, that the fact that there is no way to distinguish any of them from make-believe is an inherent justification to not believe in the claims that they exist. Period.

let me tell ys something.

O.k., shoot. Oh, crap, no! I shouldn't say "shoot" when talking to a Muslim...I might get taken literally...

you cant say you need no justification for rejecting something.

Of course you can. Any proposition or assertion that has no justification for itself is worthy of not being accepted.

you got to have some kinda evidence for not believing in something,

No you don't. You never need evidence to "not believe." If you need evidence to "not believe" then you are forced into believing many different unsubstantiated claims, because there are an almost infinite number of claims that we have no evidence for "not believing."

just like you got to have evidence for believing in something.

That's true. There's no reason to accept an assertion as true when there is no reason to accept it as true. It's a truism.

you got that now. you not studied science have you mate?

Much more than you, obviously.

im gonna give you an easy example which out science teacher gave us. lets suppose an astromoner tells ya he believes there is a planet like our earth wizzing around a a far away star. you cant just reject him can you. he might be right. you cant say bollocks to him. if you do everyone will laugh at you.

You don't accept the claim until there is evidence to support it. It's certainly "possible" that there is a planet "like our Earth" wizzing around a far away star; however, until there is evidence we are not justified in "believing" it to be true. Nobody has faith or "believes" there are planets like the Earth revolving around other stars. They hypothesize there are, and then they go out and seek out evidence to support that hypothesis.

So, your example is good in that sense. You hypothesize that there is an Allah, and I can certainly accept that. Now we're waiting for the evidence. I won't accept your hypothesis as a good theory unless and until you have presented empirical, observational evidence that there is an Allah. You haven't. So, your hypothesis, while interesting, is no better than the legion of other hypotheses: the yahweh hypothesis; the Vishnu hypothesis; the Jesus hypothesis; the Mithra hypothesis; the Gaia hypothesis; the new age energy hypothesis; the Force hypothesis.

I don't accept any of those hypotheses, including but not limited to your Allah hypothesis, because there is no empirical or observational evidence to support your assertion. It's just a belief...a wish.

fucking Quakers could kick your asses.

oh yeah, but american marines couldnt.

Our Marines are kicking Muslim extremist ass all over the place. we took over Afghanistan with a few hundred guys and some briefcases full of money. We took Iraq in about three weeks. Your "fighters for Allah" are ineffectual capons.

look how they fled in iraq.

The Muslim soldiers? Absolutely. We wiped the floor with Saddam's army. It wasn't even a contest.

if you are right then white house needs to recruit Quakers

To maybe take care of the children. That's what Muslim soldiers are good for: womens work, like washing dishes, cooking dinner and cleaning up so the real men can relax after doing the real work. Put your apron on, Mandy.

the Jews even kick your asses in every war!

get your facts rightmate. you live in a dream world mate.

LOL - a country, Israel, that was formed in 1947, lbuilt itself into a powerhouse in just a few decades. Now the Muslims ask permission to enter and leave, and ask for Jewish blessings to cross from Gaza to the West Bank. In each war, Israel got bigger, and the Muslims cried of the tragedy and the humiliation they feel. Israel makes you folks their bitch - bend over and take it as they "humiliate" you.

Muslims are deficient in some way. They must be, or they wouldn't believe the total load of pig droppings that they believe in.

no its you atheists say stupid things. you believe this big universe was created by evolution.

Nobody but a complete idiot would think that modern science suggests that the universe was created by evolution.

Coito ergo sum:

Disbelief is justified based on the fact that the adherents to these false deities, and yours, can't prove they exist.

that is just bollocks mate.

No, it isn't, matey. You can't prove your god exists. The Christians can't believe their god or divine son exists. The Jews can't prove yahweh or elohim exists. The shintoists can't prove their gods exist. The HIndus can't prove their gods exist. They all say "you can't prove my god(s) don't exist." The reality is, that the fact that there is no way to distinguish any of them from make-believe is an inherent justification to not believe in the claims that they exist. Period.

let me tell ys something.

O.k., shoot. Oh, crap, no! I shouldn't say "shoot" when talking to a Muslim...I might get taken literally...

you cant say you need no justification for rejecting something.

Of course you can. Any proposition or assertion that has no justification for itself is worthy of not being accepted.

you got to have some kinda evidence for not believing in something,

No you don't. You never need evidence to "not believe." If you need evidence to "not believe" then you are forced into believing many different unsubstantiated claims, because there are an almost infinite number of claims that we have no evidence for "not believing."

just like you got to have evidence for believing in something.

That's true. There's no reason to accept an assertion as true when there is no reason to accept it as true. It's a truism.

you got that now. you not studied science have you mate?

Much more than you, obviously.

im gonna give you an easy example which out science teacher gave us. lets suppose an astromoner tells ya he believes there is a planet like our earth wizzing around a a far away star. you cant just reject him can you. he might be right. you cant say bollocks to him. if you do everyone will laugh at you.

You don't accept the claim until there is evidence to support it. It's certainly "possible" that there is a planet "like our Earth" wizzing around a far away star; however, until there is evidence we are not justified in "believing" it to be true. Nobody has faith or "believes" there are planets like the Earth revolving around other stars. They hypothesize there are, and then they go out and seek out evidence to support that hypothesis.

So, your example is good in that sense. You hypothesize that there is an Allah, and I can certainly accept that. Now we're waiting for the evidence. I won't accept your hypothesis as a good theory unless and until you have presented empirical, observational evidence that there is an Allah. You haven't. So, your hypothesis, while interesting, is no better than the legion of other hypotheses: the yahweh hypothesis; the Vishnu hypothesis; the Jesus hypothesis; the Mithra hypothesis; the Gaia hypothesis; the new age energy hypothesis; the Force hypothesis.

I don't accept any of those hypotheses, including but not limited to your Allah hypothesis, because there is no empirical or observational evidence to support your assertion. It's just a belief...a wish.

fucking Quakers could kick your asses.

oh yeah, but american marines couldnt.

Our Marines are kicking Muslim extremist ass all over the place. we took over Afghanistan with a few hundred guys and some briefcases full of money. We took Iraq in about three weeks. Your "fighters for Allah" are ineffectual capons.

look how they fled in iraq.

The Muslim soldiers? Absolutely. We wiped the floor with Saddam's army. It wasn't even a contest.

if you are right then white house needs to recruit Quakers

To maybe take care of the children. That's what Muslim soldiers are good for: womens work, like washing dishes, cooking dinner and cleaning up so the real men can relax after doing the real work. Put your apron on, Mandy.

the Jews even kick your asses in every war!

get your facts rightmate. you live in a dream world mate.

LOL - a country, Israel, that was formed in 1947, lbuilt itself into a powerhouse in just a few decades. Now the Muslims ask permission to enter and leave, and ask for Jewish blessings to cross from Gaza to the West Bank. In each war, Israel got bigger, and the Muslims cried of the tragedy and the humiliation they feel. Israel makes you folks their bitch - bend over and take it as they "humiliate" you.

[Feck]

Have we found any evidence yet ................ nah didn't think so

Us folks are really bad and Allan (sp?) is going to punish us (nine headed snakes )

oh and Mandy just give up FFS you aren't even a well read mushlim , you lose every point you make, poking fun at you got boring some time ago

and as far as threatening us with the wrath of Allan .. I am more terrified by unicorns, jamberwokies and the monster in my closet .

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Trigger Warning!!!1! :

[Svartalf]

Have we found any evidence yet ................ nah didn't think so

Us folks are really bad and Allan (sp?) is going to punish us (nine headed snakes ) .

What? Allan is into tentacle porn?

[Svartalf]

Trigger Warning!!!1! :

Nice picture, but could you please explain its relevance to the converstion at hand?

[charlou]

Trigger Warning!!!1! :

Nice picture, but could you please explain its relevance to the converstion at hand?

Scroll across and note the guy with the quill, then look at the mirth of those around him ... think of it as derisory ... That pic works in any of mandy's 'conversations'.

[colubridae]

Couldn't see the full picture on my IE.
So I went to the url direct..

http://www.uncp.edu/home/rwb/repin_cossacks.jpg

now..
"I see the truth of it"


ps is this a picture of the inauguration of rationalia?

[Feck]

Couldn't see the full picture on my IE.
So I went to the url direct..

http://www.uncp.edu/home/rwb/repin_cossacks.jpg

now..
"I see the truth of it"


ps is this a picture of the inauguration of rationalia?

Like the Big dog in the picture ...

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Trigger Warning!!!1! :

Nice picture, but could you please explain its relevance to the converstion at hand?

None at all.