Evidence for Allah - contains images which may disturb

[Mysturji]

I've got all the evidence I need. I mean, I see him almost every day. He lives across the street from me.

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Oh! Sorry, I thought you said Allan.

[Pappa]

I've got all the evidence I need. I mean, I see him almost every day. He lives across the street from me.

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Oh! Sorry, I thought you said Allan.

[colubridae]

you dont know nothing about causes do you?

Double negatives.... *tsk* *tsk*

[Bella Fortuna]

I've got all the evidence I need. I mean, I see him almost every day. He lives across the street from me.

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Oh! Sorry, I thought you said Allan.

[Coito ergo sum]

im tell you many different proofs for God so even a child can see it.

first one first:

this is a whole big universe right?

It is a universe. Big, however, is a relative term. If there is a muliverse, then it may be that we live in a relatively small universe, compared to other universes. Compared to us, however, it is fair to characterize the universe as big, certainly much bigger than we are.

now you tell me... who made it. not me. not you.

That is a loaded question, as it assumes that there was a "who" and that it did not always exist in some form. We don't know if there was a who involved.

Do you mean, "how did the universe come to be the way it is?" We do know a lot about how the universe came to be the way it is now. We know a lot about planetary and stellar formation, how solar systems and galaxies interact and come to be, and much about how the universe changed over time for the last 14.5 billion years. There are things we don't know, of course.

obviously it didnt made itself.

So far, we know that solar systems, planets and galaxies do not need gods in order form. They can form just fine by means of the laws of nature and the interaction of the gravity, electromagnetism and the strong and weak nuclear forces.

so who did the universe.

We don't know if there was a who, and there is no evidence to suggest that there is a who.

answer is ALLAH.

That could be an answer, but you don't have any evidence for it. You might as well say it was Fred Beebledrivel.

i will tell you more evidences later on as we discuss one at a time.
that was the first evidence. so there you are.

That's not evidence. You're just making assuming that universes can't exist without a being creating them. That's something you need evidence for, it's not in itself evidence.

[Coito ergo sum]

I mean, where's my Fatwah?

When I am king, all fatwahs shall be replaced by Wispas.

I would issue phatwas.

[cowiz]

There was this murder right?
now you tell me... who committed the murder. Not me. Not you the jury, or the judge. Obviously he didn't murder himself.
So who did murder him?

The answer is mandelson.

Get it Mandy?

[mandy]

pawiz:

There was this murder right?
now you tell me... who committed the murder. Not me. Not you the jury, or the judge. Obviously he didn't murder himself.

So who did murder him?

The answer is mandelson.

Get it Mandy?

very funny.

ha
ha
ha.

:pissed:

let me cool down first....

right.

listen pawiz. you atheists tend to believe that man murdered himself ie universe just happened all by itself. which is bollcocks.
Murder and universe dont just happen. Someone is always responsible.

get it now pawiz? duh.

we all need to go and find whoever caused the universe. we need to get the one who is behind it all. cant be that difficult can it. we got brains right?

hackenslash:

this is a whole big universe right?
now you tell me... who made it. not me. not you. obviously it didnt made itself.
so who did the universe.

there is another question to be answered, namely 'was the universe created?'

are you telling me universe always existed. if that what you believe than just say it man, dont beat around the bush. you aint with your woman now. we are philophysing here. so just come on out and say what you believe about the unvierse.

I suggest that the universe didn't get here at all. It just is.

that is just utter bollocks.

what do you mean universe did not come from anywhere. what do you mean universe is just.
just what. you cant just say universe is just here. just. its just is. thats just stupid.
you got to tell us where it all came from. how long its been here. who did it. iwhats it doing here. why is it here. where is it heading. whats gonna happen to it. these are scientific and logical questions. you cant get away with saying universe is just here. just is. scientists would laugh their socks off at you if you believe bollocks like that.
its stupid to believe universe is just here. no more. i mean come on. either tell me you got answers or just admit it that you know fok all. there is no shame is not knowing. but its shameful to believe in stupid things. universe is just here. bollocks.

Animavore:
There are causes behind things but there is no reason for them.

what bollocks you guys sometimes say.
here is another one...

E=MC2 Where is Allah in that equation?

that was good one einstein.

Allah is not in the wrong things. He is perfect, so He cant be in imperfect equations can He? bollocks formulas dont contain Allah. have you not seen the pure equations that have Allah in them.
the one you gave is not correct, its rubbish now, your equation about engery and mass and light is bollocks. today lots of scientists have proven mr einstein wrong. that old man said so many bollocks things which many of you blindly followed. only kids take E=MC2 seriously nowadays. top top physicists joke about Einstein al the time. lose him man. he was bollocks.

Coito ergo sum:
If there is a multiverse, then it may be that we live in a relatively small universe.

why do you always have to throw in bollocks things for which there is no evidence.
multiverse is someone's wet dream that most scientists laugh at. no one takes it seriously except some looney group lost in the outback. there is only one universe which we can observe and thats it. there is no evidence for any other hidden universes out there. so dont be chatting bollocks to me. talk science or reason. everything else is false.

We do know a lot about how the universe came to be the way it is now. We know a lot about planetary and stellar formation, how solar systems and galaxies interact and come to be, and much about how the universe changed over time for the last 14.5 billion years. There are things we don't know, of course.

so you cant answer the question can you. its good to see you admit it at the end of the paragraph.

but next time, just say it at the beginning, and not at the end. have a bit of intellectual courage ok.

You're just making assuming that universes can't exist without a being creating them. That's something you need evidence for, it's not in itself evidence.

my evidence is simple and clear straight from reason and physics of cause and effect.
lots of top scientists believe universe must have been done by some sort of powerful super intellect. if you know something better, lets hear it. i told you my version.
but you keep saying i dont know, i dont know, i dont know, i dont know, i dont know...
If you dont know, ask those who know.

You might as well say it was Fred Beebledrivel.

but i dont know him. who is he? i never heard of the chap.

besides, im gonna be telling you some more evidences for Allah using deduction and induction. i learnt them words from top book explaning how scienctists work in their labs with all sorts of gadgets while wearing white coats.

[Animavore]

Allah is not in the wrong things. today lots of scientists have proven mr einstein wrong. that old man said so many bollocks things which many of you blindly followed. only kids take E=MC2 seriously nowadays. top top physicists joke about Einstein al the time. lose him man. he was bollocks.

Maybe you'll like these guys

[Azathoth]

He is permitting and ordering this then. Confused chap isn't he.

Terrible thing to do Ghatanothoa posting dirty Gay pictures "Will somebody think of the children "







just Bumpted this cos I'm too lazy to go find more pics I shall go find some later on my own PC

I think mandy is just worried because he finds them rather erotic and they almost have him out of the closet

[Animavore]

He is permitting and ordering this then. Confused chap isn't he.

Terrible thing to do Ghatanothoa posting dirty Gay pictures "Will somebody think of the children "







just Bumpted this cos I'm too lazy to go find more pics I shall go find some later on my own PC

I think mandy is just worried because he finds them rather erotic and they almost have him out of the closet

Will youse stop reposting those pics for feck's sake

[Coito ergo sum]

Coito ergo sum:
If there is a multiverse, then it may be that we live in a relatively small universe.

why do you always have to throw in bollocks things for which there is no evidence.

I don't. That's what you do with your "allah" nonsense. You have no evidence for Allah. You just don't know the answer to a question and throw Allah in there to provide an answer.

multiverse is someone's wet dream that most scientists laugh at.

It is a contested theory, correct. And, I did not make the assertion that there is a multiverse. I merely stated "if" there is a multiverse. I don't know that there is. If there isn't a multiverse, than this is the only universe, and therefore it is neither big nor small, since there are no other universes with which to compare it.

no one takes it seriously except some looney group lost in the outback. there is only one universe which we can observe and thats it.

You are right about that. And, there are no gods that we can observe.

there is no evidence for any other hidden universes out there. so dont be chatting bollocks to me. talk science or reason. everything else is false.

You need to read more carefully. I said "if." Sometimes I say, "if Allah exists..." - that in no way implies that I actually do think he exists. We all know he doesn't, it's just hypothetical.

We do know a lot about how the universe came to be the way it is now. We know a lot about planetary and stellar formation, how solar systems and galaxies interact and come to be, and much about how the universe changed over time for the last 14.5 billion years. There are things we don't know, of course.

so you cant the question can you. its good to see you admit it at the end.

Admit what "in the end?" I answered your question quite directly. Disbelieving your false god does not mean that a person thinks they know everything. It's o.k. not to know some things. We don't have to pretend to know answers that we don't know.

but next time, just say it at the beginning not at the end. have a bit of intellectual courage ok.

I have the courage to be intellectually honest, which is more than I can say for some people.

You're just making assuming that universes can't exist without a being creating them. That's something you need evidence for, it's not in itself evidence.

my evidence is simple and clear straight from reason and physics of cause and effect.

You have no evidence. You simply have an unanswered question "who created the universe?" and you fill in the blank with some word that someone made up - Allah. It's a great hypothesis, but you have no evidence for Allah's existence.

lots of top scientists believe universe must have been done by some sort of powerful super intellect.

No they don't. But, feel free to list the top 5 "scientists" who believe what you just said.

if you know something better, lets hear it.

Sure, I know lots of better answers. Like - stars and planets come to be through the process of nebular formation - a rotating nebula cooled and contracted, throwing off rings of matter that contracted into the planets and their moons, while the great mass of the condensing nebula became the sun. You see, at one point in time, there was no Earth, and about 4.5 billion years ago, through the interplay of matter and energy and the four main forces (strong/weak nuclear, electromagnetism and gravity), the Earth formed. The heavy elements in the Earth were formed in the heart of a start that existed previously, having been formed through nuclear fusion reactions out of lighter elements. The hundreds of billions of stars and solar systems, and trillions of planets all formed in much the same way over billions of years.

During the last 14.5 billion years the universe has been expanding, and solar systems forming and being destroyed through supernovae according to physical, chemical and nuclear processes. In the past the universe was much smaller, indicating that the universe was, early on, very small indeed. At a very early period of time about 14.5 billion years ago we are unsure what was happening since our physics breaks down.

So the idea is that we know quite a bit about how things form and come to be in the universe, but there are some things we don't know yet, like the events that would have occurred very very early on in the universe, about 14.5 billion years ago.

i told you my version.

Yes, you said "Allah did it."

but you keep saying i dont know, i dont know, i dont know, i dont know, i dont know...

No I don't. Stop lying. It's supposed to be a sin. I said there are SOME things of which we do not know (yet). But, there are many things that we do know. Some of them I've explained, hopefully in simple enough terms for you to understand.

If you dont know, ask those who know.

You don't know.

You might as well say it was Fred Beebledrivel.

but i dont know him. who is he? i never heard of the chap.

I don't know your Allah fellow. What I've heard about him is not nice.

besides, im gonna be telling you some more evidences for Allah using deduction and induction. i learnt them words from top book explaning how scienctists work in their labs with all sorts of gadgets while wearing white coats.

Feel free to present some evidence. You haven't yet.

[Coito ergo sum]

Will youse stop reposting those pics for feck's sake

I second that.

[Feck]

pawiz:

There was this murder right?
now you tell me... who committed the murder. Not me. Not you the jury, or the judge. Obviously he didn't murder himself.

So who did murder him?

The answer is mandelson.

Get it Mandy?

very funny.

ha
ha
ha.

:pissed:

let me cool down first....

right.

listen pawiz. you atheists tend to believe that man murdered himself ie universe just happened all by itself. which is bollcocks.
Murder and universe dont just happen. Someone is always responsible.

get it now pawiz? duh.

we all need to go and find whoever caused the universe. we need to get the one who is behind it all. cant be that difficult can it. we got brains right?

hackenslash:

this is a whole big universe right?
now you tell me... who made it. not me. not you. obviously it didnt made itself.
so who did the universe.

there is another question to be answered, namely 'was the universe created?'

are you telling me universe always existed. if that what you believe than just say it man, dont beat around the bush. you aint with your woman now. we are philophysing here. so just come on out and say what you believe about the unvierse.

I suggest that the universe didn't get here at all. It just is.

that is just utter bollocks.

what do you mean universe did not come from anywhere. what do you mean universe is just.
just what. you cant just say universe is just here. just. its just is. thats just stupid.
you got to tell us where it all came from. how long its been here. who did it. iwhats it doing here. why is it here. where is it heading. whats gonna happen to it. these are scientific and logical questions. you cant get away with saying universe is just here. just is. scientists would laugh their socks off at you if you believe bollocks like that.
its stupid to believe universe is just here. no more. i mean come on. either tell me you got answers or just admit it that you know fok all. there is no shame is not knowing. but its shameful to believe in stupid things. universe is just here. bollocks.

Animavore:
There are causes behind things but there is no reason for them.

what bollocks you guys sometimes say.
here is another one...

E=MC2 Where is Allah in that equation?

that was good one einstein.

Allah is not in the wrong things. He is perfect, so He cant be in imperfect equations can He? bollocks formulas dont contain Allah. have you not seen the pure equations that have Allah in them.
the one you gave is not correct, its rubbish now, your equation about engery and mass and light is bollocks. today lots of scientists have proven mr einstein wrong. that old man said so many bollocks things which many of you blindly followed. only kids take E=MC2 seriously nowadays. top top physicists joke about Einstein al the time. lose him man. he was bollocks.

Coito ergo sum:
If there is a multiverse, then it may be that we live in a relatively small universe.

why do you always have to throw in bollocks things for which there is no evidence.
multiverse is someone's wet dream that most scientists laugh at. no one takes it seriously except some looney group lost in the outback. there is only one universe which we can observe and thats it. there is no evidence for any other hidden universes out there. so dont be chatting bollocks to me. talk science or reason. everything else is false.

We do know a lot about how the universe came to be the way it is now. We know a lot about planetary and stellar formation, how solar systems and galaxies interact and come to be, and much about how the universe changed over time for the last 14.5 billion years. There are things we don't know, of course.

so you cant the question can you. its good to see you admit it at the end.
but next time, just say it at the beginning not at the end. have a bit of intellectual courage ok.

You're just making assuming that universes can't exist without a being creating them. That's something you need evidence for, it's not in itself evidence.

my evidence is simple and clear straight from reason and physics of cause and effect.
lots of top scientists believe universe must have been done by some sort of powerful super intellect. if you know something better, lets hear it. i told you my version.
but you keep saying i dont know, i dont know, i dont know, i dont know, i dont know...
If you dont know, ask those who know.

You might as well say it was Fred Beebledrivel.

but i dont know him. who is he? i never heard of the chap.

besides, im gonna be telling you some more evidences for Allah using deduction and induction. i learnt them words from top book explaning how scienctists work in their labs with all sorts of gadgets while wearing white coats.

Mandy thanks for making me laugh just the spelling mistakes raised a smile .... If you want to know what scientists think?ask around there are a few on the forum. And your qualifications for telling all us scientists what to think Are ? (Just so we will all know to defer to your greater intelligence and logic)

And just so you have had warning all your attempts at argument will be beaten like a Muslim wife .

Trigger Warning!!!1! :

[charlou]

Will youse stop reposting those pics for feck's sake

I second that.

I like them for feck's sake.