Evidence for Allah - contains images which may disturb

[klr]

Mandie, did you know that Allah didn't write the Quran, he used ghostwriters. Lulz.

Ghost-writers in the sky ... Yippie-aye-oh, yippie-aye-ay ...

Sorry ... it just sort of came out of it's own accord.

[Deep Sea Isopod]

Mandy really puts up a very convincing arguement. His posts make absolute perfect sense! Yes, I understand how it could only have been Allah who started the big bang......






























I'm sorry, I tried to hold a straight face but couldn't!

[Azathoth]

He is permitting and ordering this then. Confused chap isn't he.

[cowiz]

mandelson I have proof that the universe was created by Fat Bob last Wednesday at 3.33am Eastern Standard time. If you want the proof just ask and I shall provide.

[MrFungus420]

MrFungus420:
The answer is The Great Green Arkleseizure.

dont try to be funny, coz you aint.

I'm not. That is my answer.

And, unless you can actually provide evidence that supports your claim that it was Allah, my answer is just as valid as yours.

You see, evidence would be the things that support your claims.

i did. but you dont even read it. are you saying that big bang discovered by scientists last century is not evidence for you?

No. It is not evidenced in any way for anything.

The Big Bang is a conclusion based on the available evidence.

to some people its good enough. i gave you the initial explosion as proper evidence to support my claim that Allah was behind it. it is scientitic evidence.

First of all, you are demonstrating a very ignorant idea of the Big Bang. There was no explosion. It was an expansion of space-time.

Secondly, the Big Bang probably occurred. All of the available evidence supports that conclusion. That it happened is not evidence of what caused it. What is the evidence that it was caused by Allah?

i didnt just make it up like some of you guys do just to say there is no God out there.
are you telling me astronomers got it all wrong when they say it did begin with a massive explosion.

Of course not. Neither astronomers, cosmologists, or ANY scientist says that there was a massive explosion.

The only people who talk about an explosion are those who are virtually completely ignorant of what the Big Bang Theory is.

some of you guys are so brainwashed. you just oppose any clear proofs from provided by science that backs me up.

What clear proofs?

The Big Bang occurred. The evidence supports that conclusion.

That it happened is not evidence of how it occurred.

The only thing that you are doing is saying, "The Big Bang happened. Therefore Allah did it."

maybe you just dont like muslims stating logical things.[/i]

I wouldn't know. I've never seen it happen.

[MrFungus420]

same goes for you maiforpeace. Prophet Mohamed peace be upon him, is the messenger of Allah, so dont push you luck by taking him on.
mock Mohamed and you mock Allah. Mohamed and Allah are best mates.
you gonna be in real trouble in the next life if you take them on.

:pissed:

Mohammed and Allah both drink pig semen...from the spout. While getting sodomized by pigs.

[MrFungus420]

Svartalf:
a) I've never seen real evidence of divine intervention in the creation of the universe, and plenty evidence contradicting the religious accounts.

read what i said to cj about the grand big explosion caused by Allah.

Do you mean the "explosion" that NEVER HAPPENED?

[hackenslash]

this is a whole big universe right?

Yep.

now you tell me... who made it. not me. not you. obviously it didnt made itself.
so who did the universe.

Well, before you can get to that question, there is another question to be answered, namely 'was the universe created?' This logical fallacy is known as 'begging the question'. I wonder if you can work out why this is a logical fallacy?

answer is ALLAH.

I seriously doubt that. Since allah (piss be upon him) is YHWH in a kaftan, and since YHWH is logically absurd, I can pretty much categorically say that this particular masturbation fantasy is not rooted in reality, regardless of whether or not a creator entity exists. Either way, this is predicated upon the universe actually being created, which is problematic in itself, and here's why: The universe, properly defined, is 'all that exists'. This would include your celestial peeping-tom, which means that the existence of your cosmic voyeur is actually contingent upon the existence of the universe. So, how does a contingent entity go about creating that upon which it's contingent? Answer: It can't.

i will tell you more evidences later on as we discuss one at a time.
that was the first evidence. so there you are.

Ah, I see your malfunction. You think that empty rhetoric constitutes evidence. Sorry, but while your sharia courts may accept such drivel as evidence, empiricism demands a higher standard.

You do raise an interesting question, though. Since sharia demands that rape victims be punished, and since humanity has been thoroughly raped by the idea of your carpet-biting lunatic, is islam actually our punishment for being raped?

come on simon, thats just stupid. no one takes that seriously.

Except, of course, the scientifically literate.

adults can be fooled too. look how they believe Darwin fella who told them all sort of at this crap about the monkey tale where apes are turing into men. you cant even make this shit up in hollywood films

Way to demonstrate your abject ignorance. Apes don't turn into men. Unless of course you think that birds turn into ducks, that is.

but since apes aint the topic, we gonna stick with Allah.

Oh, is allah a topic? What, with hazelnuts and everything?

evidence is that universe didnt get here by itself. just look at it man, it was produced by something very big, powerful and brainy.

Which evidence are you looking at? Given the proper definition of 'universe' as I gave you above, what you are suggesting is that existence got here by itself.

I suggest that the universe didn't get here at all. It just is.

some people here saying universe has always been around, but thats just bollocks. the big bang proves their crap ideas wrong.

ACtually, no it doesn't, because it cannot be demonstrated that the big bang was the beginning. Indeed, it cannot be demonstrated that anything ever had a beginning. We can only see changes in state. The first law of thermodynamics tells us that energy cannot be created nor destroyed, which would tend to suggest that something has always existed. We call everything that exists the universe, which suggests that the universe always existed. In any event, we have several hypotheticals on the table at the moment that suggest that the big bang was not the beginning, only another stage.

i dont know if you heard of it but me teacher said this whole big universe began with a bang.

Err, except that it wasn't big and there was no bang. Perhaps if you bothered to learn a little about reality you would understand this.

now you tell me, who else could have lit the fuse millions of years ago? its got to be some best super explosives expert.
we say it was Allah who caused the explosion.

Except, of course, that there was no explosion. There was no fuse. There was an expansion of spacetime or, if you prefer some of the more esoteric models for cosmic instantiation, an unfolding of the spatial dimensions from the dimensional manifold.

He is muslim you see. Allah loves explosives. sorry just joking mate.

Yes, very funny. I'm sure the families of the people who lost their lives in New York, London and Madrid are laughing their cocks off at your little bit of comedy. Excuse me while I don't.

anyways, unless you can tell me some other explosives expert, the best candidate is God of the Quran.

Well, if there was actually an explosion, you might have a point. However, the evidence suggests otherwise.

where you get that from. nothing happens without Allah knowing about it. He is incharge around here you know.
All things that happen the universe happen with Allah's order or permission.

Ah, right. So if I call your cretinous magic man a fucking cunt, and an intellectual dullard (bear in mind that the first incarnation of this fuckwit couldn't even accurately count the number of legs on an insect), then I have his full order or permission to do so, and you can have no objection to it. Is that right?

so get it right. dont be imagining fairytales like its just happens by itself.

Fairytales? We're not the ones with the invisible magic man.

there is cause for things that take place.

And you have evidence to support this wild claim, of course?

i reckon you dont no science have you?

ROFL. The Dunning-Kruger is strong in this one.


Meanwhile, still no evidence for this fuckwitted entity. Whenever you're ready to present actual evidence, let us know.

[mindyourmind]

I've read the other musings on Mandy's um, online credibility, but I must say that I am starting to see him as a Shadow Poe - I can handle the bad spelling, bad grammar, arguments from ignorance, absence of logic etc, all of that is pretty much par for the fundie course. But the jokes about Allah, the relaxed response to disrespectful posts regarding his brand of Magic Desert God - too much to accept.

I smell a Poe, taking the urine.

[mandy]

Svartalf:
literally, your argument boiled down to "I don't know how that's possible so I'll postulate that a supernatural entity of my choice is responsible"

I didnt say I dont know how its possible. you are putting words into me mouth. stop it. :pissed:

Ghatanothoa,
those pictures are disgusting. please take em down will ya. children may be wathcing and gays aint no good for them. so please delete them. Mods, come on man, get rid of those filthy dirty photos.

Animavore:
Clearly you don't have a clue about thermodynamics, electro-magnetism, gravity or nuclear fusion. Allah is not needed to explain any of these things any more than he is needed to explain the formation of dog-shit.

i know these things. its you who dont know where gravity comes from. you are clueless arent you.
without Allah you cant explain anything can you. so the laugh is on you my friend.

Shit happens. There is no reason...

thats it? thats your explanation?
listen, there is always a reason, and thats what science is all about. you dont know nothing about causes do you?
scientists dont say shit happens, they look for a cause. but you believe in anything dont dont you. you aint a scientist, i can tell. you just showing off with a few big words you picked up from somewhere, i dont know where.

Nothing happens unless he permits or orders it. Meaning Allah is making me write this reply to you written by Him Himself so not only is he self-depreciating he also talks to himself like a madman.

dont try to change the topic. you too Thinking Aloud. clever trick there i must say. some of you men are trying to divert things. it looks bad on you.
listen chaps, women are watching, so dont embarrass yourselves. stick to the topic. just read the evidence for Allah, and if you can find a fault with it them tell me.

Tigger:
The whole thread is shit from start to finish. Carry on ...

Tigger doesnt understand the importance of the thread about existence of God.

i will get back to the rest of you next time... you are all crazy infidels.

[hackenslash]

I didnt say I dont know how its possible. you are putting words into me mouth. stop it. :pissed:

That's precisely what you're saying.

Ghatanothoa,
those pictures are disgusting. please take em down will ya. children may be wathcing and gays aint no good for them. so please delete them. Mods, come on man, get rid of those filthy dirty photos.

I see no breach of the forum rules. You'll just have to suck it up. See what I did there?

i know these things. its you who dont know where gravity comes from. you are clueless arent you.
without Allah you cant explain anything can you. so the laugh is on you my friend.

Gravity doesn't come 'from' anywhere. It is a property of space-time and its interactions with mass.

thats it? thats your explanation?
listen, there is always a reason, and thats what science is all about. you dont know nothing about causes do you?
scientists dont say shit happens, they look for a cause. but you believe in anything dont dont you. you aint a scientist, i can tell. you just showing off with a few big words you picked up from somewhere, i dont know where.

Actually, you just contradicted yourself, shooting your own argument in the foot big time. Science looks for causes, not reasons. In other words, it asks the question 'how?' not 'why?'

Oh, and you will find that a few of the members here are, in fact, professional scientists.

dont try to change the topic. you too Thinking Aloud. clever trick there i must say. some of you men are trying to divert things. it looks bad on you.
listen chaps, women are watching, so dont embarrass yourselves. stick to the topic. just read the evidence for Allah, and if you can find a fault with it them tell me.

Firstly, this isn't a change in topic, it's a direct response to your vacuous assertion. As for the rest, we're still waiting for this evidence you promised. Going to present that any time soon?

Oh, and what does women watching have to do with the price of a chapati in Lahore?

Tigger doesnt understand the importance of the thread about existence of God.

Importance? Are you fucking sure? Frankly, if your magic man actually does exist (which he demonstrably doesn't), it would be of only mild interest to me.

[Animavore]

thats it? thats your explanation?
listen, there is always a reason, and thats what science is all about. you dont know nothing about causes do you?
scientists dont say shit happens, they look for a cause. but you believe in anything dont dont you. you aint a scientist, i can tell. you just showing off with a few big words you picked up from somewhere, i dont know where.

There are causes behind things but there is no reason for them. They are not done intentionally. No Muslim has ever been able to show how and why Allah causes things. He is absolutely unnecessary to our understanding. You never did explain where Allah got all the matter from to create the universe with. Plus, as I told you before, the Qur'an says that the stars in the sky are lamps to keep away demons ( ). And you expect me to take it seriously

E=MC2 Where is Allah in that equation?

[charlou]

I think Allah is a bit of a pervert, because he spent half an hour watching me masturbate yesterday

It's worse than that. Allah is boss around here. Nothing happens unless he wills it. Allah made you masturbate by his own hand.

[youtubeuk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecnUimf8J-0[/youtubeuk]

[Kimpatsu]

Where did Allah get the matter he used to create the universe anyway?

I don't remember seeing universal matter in IKEA.

I have a universal joint in my toolbox. Does that count?

[Feck]

He is permitting and ordering this then. Confused chap isn't he.

Terrible thing to do Ghatanothoa posting dirty Gay pictures "Will somebody think of the children "







just Bumpted this cos I'm too lazy to go find more pics I shall go find some later on my own PC