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Post by Deep Sea Isopod » Mon Apr 19, 2010 8:58 pm

A toy barbie car.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstop ... e-car.html

Paul Hutton, 40, was pulled over by police as he drove an electric Barbie car, which moves slower than a mobility scooter, near his home in Essex.

Mr Hutton, who has four children Simon, 17, Calum, 14, Laina, 12, and John, 11, admitted being a 'complete twit'.

Speaking after the hearing at Colchester magistrates court, he said: "You have to be a contortionist to get in, and then you can't get out.

"I was very surprised to get done for drink-driving but I was a twit to say the least.

"It is designed for three-to-five-year-olds.

"Originally it was a pink Barbie car but I put bigger wheels on it but it's not fast.



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Re: Banned for drink-driving

Post by Tigger » Mon Apr 19, 2010 9:05 pm

I fail to see how he can be given a driving ban for operating something that you don't need a driving licence for. It's like banning a cyclist for the same reason. Maybe he should have something done, but that is fucking stupid. And I abhor drink driving!
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Re: Banned for drink-driving

Post by maiforpeace » Mon Apr 19, 2010 9:27 pm

Tigger wrote:I fail to see how he can be given a driving ban for operating something that you don't need a driving licence for. It's like banning a cyclist for the same reason. Maybe he should have something done, but that is fucking stupid. And I abhor drink driving!
Maybe because he was driving it on the road? :dono:

How about driving drunk on a lawnmower? He was only going to the Oyster Shack...

The video is hilarious, though I really shouldn't be laughing :hehe:

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Tigger wrote:I fail to see how he can be given a driving ban for operating something that you don't need a driving licence for. It's like banning a cyclist for the same reason. Maybe he should have something done, but that is fucking stupid. And I abhor drink driving!
I am a cyclist - I can get the same convictions as a car user.
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Re: Banned for drink-driving

Post by Tigger » Tue Apr 20, 2010 8:40 pm

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Tigger wrote:I fail to see how he can be given a driving ban for operating something that you don't need a driving licence for. It's like banning a cyclist for the same reason. Maybe he should have something done, but that is fucking stupid. And I abhor drink driving!
I am a cyclist - I can get the same convictions as a car user.
But why?

Obviously, if you have no driving licence you can ride a bike, so what penalties are there for people like that who commit motoring offences? They should be the same for anyone who commits an offence.
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Re: Banned for drink-driving

Post by Meekychuppet » Wed Apr 21, 2010 8:23 am

Tigger wrote:
Meekychuppet wrote:
Tigger wrote:I fail to see how he can be given a driving ban for operating something that you don't need a driving licence for. It's like banning a cyclist for the same reason. Maybe he should have something done, but that is fucking stupid. And I abhor drink driving!
I am a cyclist - I can get the same convictions as a car user.
But why?

Obviously, if you have no driving licence you can ride a bike, so what penalties are there for people like that who commit motoring offences? They should be the same for anyone who commits an offence.
The conviction is the same, and if I ever got a licence it would be recorded on it. I would get fined etc.
Rum wrote:Does it occur to you that you have subscribed to the model of maleness you seem to be pushing in order to justify your innately hostile and aggressive nature? I have noticed it often and even wondered if it might be some sort of personality disorder. You should consider this possibility.

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Re: Banned for drink-driving

Post by Tigger » Wed Apr 21, 2010 8:47 am

Meekychuppet wrote:
Tigger wrote:
Meekychuppet wrote:
Tigger wrote:I fail to see how he can be given a driving ban for operating something that you don't need a driving licence for. It's like banning a cyclist for the same reason. Maybe he should have something done, but that is fucking stupid. And I abhor drink driving!
I am a cyclist - I can get the same convictions as a car user.
But why?

Obviously, if you have no driving licence you can ride a bike, so what penalties are there for people like that who commit motoring offences? They should be the same for anyone who commits an offence.
The conviction is the same, and if I ever got a licence it would be recorded on it. I would get fined etc.
Yes, but WHY? That's like fining a disabled person for parking in a disabled bay just in case he gets better one day. Ok, it's not, but you see what I mean I imagine.
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Re: Banned for drink-driving

Post by Pappa » Wed Apr 21, 2010 8:48 am

Meekychuppet wrote:
Tigger wrote:
Meekychuppet wrote:
Tigger wrote:I fail to see how he can be given a driving ban for operating something that you don't need a driving licence for. It's like banning a cyclist for the same reason. Maybe he should have something done, but that is fucking stupid. And I abhor drink driving!
I am a cyclist - I can get the same convictions as a car user.
But why?

Obviously, if you have no driving licence you can ride a bike, so what penalties are there for people like that who commit motoring offences? They should be the same for anyone who commits an offence.
The conviction is the same, and if I ever got a licence it would be recorded on it. I would get fined etc.
I suppose it's similar to getting points on your license when you haven't even got one yet.
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Post by redunderthebed » Wed Apr 21, 2010 8:54 am

You can even get busted for drink-driving when riding a horse. :fp:
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Re: Banned for drink-driving

Post by Meekychuppet » Wed Apr 21, 2010 8:58 am

Tigger wrote:
Meekychuppet wrote:
Tigger wrote:
Meekychuppet wrote:
Tigger wrote:I fail to see how he can be given a driving ban for operating something that you don't need a driving licence for. It's like banning a cyclist for the same reason. Maybe he should have something done, but that is fucking stupid. And I abhor drink driving!
I am a cyclist - I can get the same convictions as a car user.
But why?

Obviously, if you have no driving licence you can ride a bike, so what penalties are there for people like that who commit motoring offences? They should be the same for anyone who commits an offence.
The conviction is the same, and if I ever got a licence it would be recorded on it. I would get fined etc.
Yes, but WHY? That's like fining a disabled person for parking in a disabled bay just in case he gets better one day. Ok, it's not, but you see what I mean I imagine.
No it isn't. The purpose of motoring conviction is to punish crime, not to endorse your licence. If you're drunk on a bike it's a crime and is punished accordingly. The reason your licence will be endorsed is that it is a material fact pertaining to driving competence and thus insurers and the police will be made aware.
Rum wrote:Does it occur to you that you have subscribed to the model of maleness you seem to be pushing in order to justify your innately hostile and aggressive nature? I have noticed it often and even wondered if it might be some sort of personality disorder. You should consider this possibility.

Rum wrote:Did I leave out being a twat? (With ref to your sig)
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Re: Banned for drink-driving

Post by Tigger » Wed Apr 21, 2010 9:08 am

Tigger wrote:
Meekychuppet wrote:
Tigger wrote:
Meekychuppet wrote:
Tigger wrote:I fail to see how he can be given a driving ban for operating something that you don't need a driving licence for. It's like banning a cyclist for the same reason. Maybe he should have something done, but that is fucking stupid. And I abhor drink driving!
I am a cyclist - I can get the same convictions as a car user.
But why?

Obviously, if you have no driving licence you can ride a bike, so what penalties are there for people like that who commit motoring offences? They should be the same for anyone who commits an offence.
The conviction is the same, and if I ever got a licence it would be recorded on it. I would get fined etc.
Yes, but WHY? That's like fining a disabled person for parking in a disabled bay just in case he gets better one day. Ok, it's not, but you see what I mean I imagine.
Meekychuppet wrote: No it isn't. The purpose of motoring conviction is to punish crime, not to endorse your licence. If you're drunk on a bike it's a crime and is punished accordingly. The reason your licence will be endorsed is that it is a material fact pertaining to driving competence and thus insurers and the police will be made aware.
But as you don't need a licence to ride a bike, the two things are separate. Or should be. You can't say that riding a bike is material in assessing someone's competence to drive as there is no mandatory test for it, unlike a motorbike. Someone could be banned for being drunk in charge of a bike when all they do is ride around fields. Car drivers tend not to do this. Unless they're drunk. :drunk:
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Re: Banned for drink-driving

Post by FBM » Wed Apr 21, 2010 9:11 am

maiforpeace wrote:
Tigger wrote:I fail to see how he can be given a driving ban for operating something that you don't need a driving licence for. It's like banning a cyclist for the same reason. Maybe he should have something done, but that is fucking stupid. And I abhor drink driving!
Maybe because he was driving it on the road? :dono:

How about driving drunk on a lawnmower? He was only going to the Oyster Shack...

The video is hilarious, though I really shouldn't be laughing :hehe:

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Re: Banned for drink-driving

Post by Meekychuppet » Wed Apr 21, 2010 9:42 am

Tigger wrote:But as you don't need a licence to ride a bike, the two things are separate. Or should be. You can't say that riding a bike is material in assessing someone's competence to drive as there is no mandatory test for it, unlike a motorbike. Someone could be banned for being drunk in charge of a bike when all they do is ride around fields. Car drivers tend not to do this. Unless they're drunk. :drunk:
I don't understand why you think driving convictions require a person to have passed a test. It's not as though passing your test creates a covenant that you cannot break. That is simply the law.
Rum wrote:Does it occur to you that you have subscribed to the model of maleness you seem to be pushing in order to justify your innately hostile and aggressive nature? I have noticed it often and even wondered if it might be some sort of personality disorder. You should consider this possibility.

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Re: Banned for drink-driving

Post by Tigger » Wed Apr 21, 2010 10:28 am

Meekychuppet wrote:
Tigger wrote:But as you don't need a licence to ride a bike, the two things are separate. Or should be. You can't say that riding a bike is material in assessing someone's competence to drive as there is no mandatory test for it, unlike a motorbike. Someone could be banned for being drunk in charge of a bike when all they do is ride around fields. Car drivers tend not to do this. Unless they're drunk. :drunk:
I don't understand why you think driving convictions require a person to have passed a test. It's not as though passing your test creates a covenant that you cannot break. That is simply the law.
I don't, but riding a bike without a licence being required and driving a car or motorcycle are different matters. You don't need a licence to ride a bike, and if you commit an offence on one, then there should be some punishment that doesn't involve a driving licence or it's just not fair on the motorist. Here's another one: those disabled scooter things require no training at all, yet the rider can use them anywhere. I saw one old chap drinking neat vodka (it was, as he'd just bought it) from a bottle as he trundled along at 4mph on a road. I called the police and they said he wasn't a motorist so they could do nothing official. (They did offer to have "a word"). He is just as much a road user as the pedal cyclist, and just as likely to have a driving licence too, so why is he immune? It's because he's not regarded as a motorist, and neither should the cyclist be. As I said, I abhor drink driving, but I abhor unfairness too.
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Re: Banned for drink-driving

Post by Meekychuppet » Wed Apr 21, 2010 11:40 am

Tigger wrote:
Meekychuppet wrote:
Tigger wrote:But as you don't need a licence to ride a bike, the two things are separate. Or should be. You can't say that riding a bike is material in assessing someone's competence to drive as there is no mandatory test for it, unlike a motorbike. Someone could be banned for being drunk in charge of a bike when all they do is ride around fields. Car drivers tend not to do this. Unless they're drunk. :drunk:
I don't understand why you think driving convictions require a person to have passed a test. It's not as though passing your test creates a covenant that you cannot break. That is simply the law.
I don't, but riding a bike without a licence being required and driving a car or motorcycle are different matters. You don't need a licence to ride a bike, and if you commit an offence on one, then there should be some punishment that doesn't involve a driving licence or it's just not fair on the motorist. Here's another one: those disabled scooter things require no training at all, yet the rider can use them anywhere. I saw one old chap drinking neat vodka (it was, as he'd just bought it) from a bottle as he trundled along at 4mph on a road. I called the police and they said he wasn't a motorist so they could do nothing official. (They did offer to have "a word"). He is just as much a road user as the pedal cyclist, and just as likely to have a driving licence too, so why is he immune? It's because he's not regarded as a motorist, and neither should the cyclist be. As I said, I abhor drink driving, but I abhor unfairness too.
How is it unfair on the motorist?
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