Atheism and homosexuality

[...Idle]

Hi there,

I've been an atheist for 3 or 4 years now, and I find that majority of atheists are either ardent supporters of homosexuality, are homosexuals themselves or don't really care much. In all my years I have found only a hand full of atheists who have had any objection to homosexuality. Why is there a lack of objection to homosexuality within the atheist community?

Also, why are some homosexuals proud of being homosexual? It makes no sense to me, it makes about much sense to me as a disabled person being proud of being disabled.

[Azathoth]

It's because all athiests are all evil and lack a moral compass

[Gawdzilla Sama]

I find that majority of atheists are either ardent supporters of homosexuality, are homosexuals themselves or don't really care much.

The only other option would be homophobia, no?

[...Idle]

I find that majority of atheists are either ardent supporters of homosexuality, are homosexuals themselves or don't really care much.

The only other option would be homophobia, no?

Imagine this, you host a atheist event opposed to religion (in schools for example) you have your atheists banners etc... And some homosexuals turn up showing support and waving those colorful gay-pride banners, would you object to them using something which you hosted as a heterosexual being used as a platform for homosexuals to promote gay-rights, under the pretext of atheism opposed to religion in schools? Would you tell them to put their banners way?

[Gawdzilla Sama]

I find that majority of atheists are either ardent supporters of homosexuality, are homosexuals themselves or don't really care much.

The only other option would be homophobia, no?

Imagine this, you host a atheist event opposed to religion (in schools for example) you have your atheists banners etc... And some homosexuals turn up showing support and waving those colorful gay-pride banners, would you object to them using something which you hosted as a heterosexual being used as a platform for homosexuals to promote gay-rights, under the pretext of atheism opposed to religion in schools? Would you tell them to put their banners way?

You didn't answer my question, now did you?

[...Idle]

I find that majority of atheists are either ardent supporters of homosexuality, are homosexuals themselves or don't really care much.

The only other option would be homophobia, no?

Imagine this, you host a atheist event opposed to religion (in schools for example) you have your atheists banners etc... And some homosexuals turn up showing support and waving those colorful gay-pride banners, would you object to them using something which you hosted as a heterosexual being used as a platform for homosexuals to promote gay-rights, under the pretext of atheism opposed to religion in schools? Would you tell them to put their banners way?

You didn't answer my question, now did you?

The term "phobia" gets thrown around too lightly these days.

[Clinton Huxley]

Why is there a lack of objection to homosexuality within the atheist community?

Why should there be?

[Coito ergo sum]

Hi there,

I've been an atheist for 3 or 4 years now, and I find that majority of atheists are either ardent supporters of homosexuality, are homosexuals themselves or don't really care much. In all my years I have found only a hand full of atheists who have had any objection to homosexuality. Why is there a lack of objection to homosexuality within the atheist community?

The vast majority of atheists I know are heterosexual. Most of us support the individual rights of homosexuals, though. That's probably a product of the fact that most, if not all, objections to homosexual conduct are religious and atheists don't generally have religions. Also, most atheists are fairly libertarian in their social views, meaning - if your private conduct doesn't hurt anybody else, then do your thing. Who sucks whose dick doesn't really impact other people.

But, I have noticed that a lot of homosexuals are atheists or agnostics, and there is some pressure within the atheist community to make it a platform for the advancement of gay rights. That I object to, because I think it's perfectly fine for atheists to oppose whatever they want to oppose, and that we need to be luring more "conservatives" into the ranks of atheists if we are going to ultimately win the war.

Also, why are some homosexuals proud of being homosexual? It makes no sense to me, it makes about much sense to me as a disabled person being proud of being disabled.

I don't know that homosexuals are proud of it. I think, though, like anyone else who has received messages that they are bad or unacceptable, they have a need to embrace their own qualities and feel good about themselves. In that sense, they strive to take pride in themselves no matter what they are. It's not like being proud to be disabled, since homosexuality is not a disability, but rather it's more like "proud to be an American" or "proud to be black/white" - i.e. taking pride in an accident of birth. It doesn't make a lot of rational sense, but people want to be "proud" (feel good about) who they are.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

I find that majority of atheists are either ardent supporters of homosexuality, are homosexuals themselves or don't really care much.

The only other option would be homophobia, no?

Imagine this, you host a atheist event opposed to religion (in schools for example) you have your atheists banners etc... And some homosexuals turn up showing support and waving those colorful gay-pride banners, would you object to them using something which you hosted as a heterosexual being used as a platform for homosexuals to promote gay-rights, under the pretext of atheism opposed to religion in schools? Would you tell them to put their banners way?

You didn't answer my question, now did you?

The term "phobia" gets thrown around too lightly these days.

You didn't answer my question, now did you?

[Coito ergo sum]

I find that majority of atheists are either ardent supporters of homosexuality, are homosexuals themselves or don't really care much.

The only other option would be homophobia, no?

Imagine this, you host a atheist event opposed to religion (in schools for example) you have your atheists banners etc... And some homosexuals turn up showing support and waving those colorful gay-pride banners, would you object to them using something which you hosted as a heterosexual being used as a platform for homosexuals to promote gay-rights, under the pretext of atheism opposed to religion in schools? Would you tell them to put their banners way?

Well, I don't think in a free country you'd be able to tell them to put their banners away.

If another group, not just gays but maybe any other group, showed up and were diluting the message of my group, I would probably see if I could reason with them on the subject. If not, I might just have to deal with it, because there's not a lot I can do to shut someone up in a public place.

[Coito ergo sum]

I find that majority of atheists are either ardent supporters of homosexuality, are homosexuals themselves or don't really care much.

The only other option would be homophobia, no?

Not the only other option, but that is an option. One option could be apathy towards homosexuality. Another could be a disapproval of homosexual conduct based on some moralistic point of view, albeit not based on religion. Neither of those has to be "phobia," although they can be.

[RuleBritannia]

Life has a liberal bias.

[FBM]

I find that majority of atheists are either ardent supporters of homosexuality, are homosexuals themselves or don't really care much.

The only other option would be homophobia, no?

Imagine this, you host a atheist event opposed to religion (in schools for example) you have your atheists banners etc... And some homosexuals turn up showing support and waving those colorful gay-pride banners, would you object to them using something which you hosted as a heterosexual being used as a platform for homosexuals to promote gay-rights, under the pretext of atheism opposed to religion in schools? Would you tell them to put their banners way?

How would an "atheist event opposed to be religion" be anything sexual at all, much less intended to be restricted to heterosexuals? There's no connection. You'd have to put up a banner "Heterosexual Atheists Only" or something.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

I find that majority of atheists are either ardent supporters of homosexuality, are homosexuals themselves or don't really care much.

The only other option would be homophobia, no?

Not the only other option, but that is an option. One option could be apathy towards homosexuality. Another could be a disapproval of homosexual conduct based on some moralistic point of view, albeit not based on religion. Neither of those has to be "phobia," although they can be.

You say there are other options? "Don't really care much" covers your first one. "Morals" is just silly.

[RuleBritannia]

Surely a "phobia" is a fear of something, not a hatred of it.