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Should Ronald McDonald be banned?

Yes, ban him.
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43%
No, don't ban him.
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Maybe/Not sure
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Re: Ban Ronald McDonald?

Post by maiforpeace » Thu Apr 15, 2010 5:38 pm

RuleBritannia wrote:
maiforpeace wrote:
Xamonas Chegwé wrote:Why single out McDonalds? Why not ban ALL advertising on children's TV channels and on mainstream channels during children's programs. After all, all of the companies deny that they are trying to directly influence children. :tea:
To start:

http://www.retireronald.org/learn/about/wheres_ronald
What's your point?
He asked: why single out McDonald's? That is one of many reasons.

EDIT:

And, for those folks that think he should be banned, would you please sign Ronald McDonald's retirement card and/or the photo petition? :hehe:

http://www.retireronald.org/act/
http://www.retireronald.org/act/photo_petition
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Re: Ban Ronald McDonald?

Post by RuleBritannia » Thu Apr 15, 2010 5:50 pm

maiforpeace wrote:
RuleBritannia wrote:
maiforpeace wrote:
Xamonas Chegwé wrote:Why single out McDonalds? Why not ban ALL advertising on children's TV channels and on mainstream channels during children's programs. After all, all of the companies deny that they are trying to directly influence children. :tea:
To start:

http://www.retireronald.org/learn/about/wheres_ronald
What's your point?
He asked: why single out McDonald's? That is one of many reasons.

EDIT:

And, for those folks that think he should be banned, would you please sign Ronald McDonald's retirement card and/or the photo petition? :hehe:

http://www.retireronald.org/act/
http://www.retireronald.org/act/photo_petition
Why not sign this petition: http://www.petitiononline.com/8814/petition.html. After all some people don't want gays getting married.
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Re: Ban Ronald McDonald?

Post by Tigger » Thu Apr 15, 2010 6:08 pm

RuleBritannia wrote:
Tigger wrote:Am I the only one who thinks Ronald McDonald should be banned because he's shit? :roll:
So everything you don't like should be banned?
Yep. :coffee:
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Re: Ban Ronald McDonald?

Post by charlou » Thu Apr 15, 2010 6:10 pm

RuleBritannia wrote:Why not sign this petition: http://www.petitiononline.com/8814/petition.html. After all some people don't want gays getting married.
Awww poor Ronald McDonald :cry: Image :cry:


He's a fucking fictional character, ffs! :lol:


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Re: Ban Ronald McDonald?

Post by Coito ergo sum » Thu Apr 15, 2010 6:12 pm

maiforpeace wrote:
RuleBritannia wrote:
maiforpeace wrote:
Xamonas Chegwé wrote:Why single out McDonalds? Why not ban ALL advertising on children's TV channels and on mainstream channels during children's programs. After all, all of the companies deny that they are trying to directly influence children. :tea:
To start:

http://www.retireronald.org/learn/about/wheres_ronald
What's your point?
He asked: why single out McDonald's? That is one of many reasons.
I clicked on the link, and the only alleged "reason" is "Ronald continues to build his popularity and "...no longer content just to interact with children when they visit McDonald’s. He has become involved in every aspect of childhood, with appearances in some of the most unlikely places – from schools to hospitals."

I would suggest that he was never content just to interact with children when they visit McDonalds. From day one, he and Mayor McCheese, Grimace, the Hamburgler, etc. were advertised in magazines, television advertising, and on billboards, etc.

But, ok, I will not dispute that you find that to be a reason to ban Ronald. What I am wondering, though, is what are some of the other "many" reasons?

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Re: Ban Ronald McDonald?

Post by Coito ergo sum » Thu Apr 15, 2010 6:13 pm

Charlou wrote:
RuleBritannia wrote:Why not sign this petition: http://www.petitiononline.com/8814/petition.html. After all some people don't want gays getting married.
Awww poor Ronald McDonald :cry: Image :cry:


He's a fucking fictional character, ffs! :lol:


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Sure, but freedom of expression is a fundamental right no less important than equal protection of the law.

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Re: Ban Ronald McDonald?

Post by maiforpeace » Thu Apr 15, 2010 6:22 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:
maiforpeace wrote:
RuleBritannia wrote:
maiforpeace wrote:
Xamonas Chegwé wrote:Why single out McDonalds? Why not ban ALL advertising on children's TV channels and on mainstream channels during children's programs. After all, all of the companies deny that they are trying to directly influence children. :tea:
To start:

http://www.retireronald.org/learn/about/wheres_ronald
What's your point?
He asked: why single out McDonald's? That is one of many reasons.
I clicked on the link, and the only alleged "reason" is "Ronald continues to build his popularity and "...no longer content just to interact with children when they visit McDonald’s. He has become involved in every aspect of childhood, with appearances in some of the most unlikely places – from schools to hospitals."

I would suggest that he was never content just to interact with children when they visit McDonalds. From day one, he and Mayor McCheese, Grimace, the Hamburgler, etc. were advertised in magazines, television advertising, and on billboards, etc.

But, ok, I will not dispute that you find that to be a reason to ban Ronald. What I am wondering, though, is what are some of the other "many" reasons?
There's a bunch of good ones listed in the "Learn More" section of the 'Retire Ronald' campaign being promoted by the special interest group, Corporate Accountability International, that you were so kind to point out to me.
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Re: Ban Ronald McDonald?

Post by Coito ergo sum » Thu Apr 15, 2010 6:26 pm

maiforpeace wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote: But, ok, I will not dispute that you find that to be a reason to ban Ronald. What I am wondering, though, is what are some of the other "many" reasons?
There's a bunch of good ones listed in the "Learn More" section of the 'Retire Ronald' campaign being promoted by the special interest group, Corporate Accountability International, that you were so kind to point out to me.
Such as?

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Re: Ban Ronald McDonald?

Post by charlou » Thu Apr 15, 2010 6:31 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:
Charlou wrote:
RuleBritannia wrote:Why not sign this petition: http://www.petitiononline.com/8814/petition.html. After all some people don't want gays getting married.
Awww poor Ronald McDonald :cry: Image :cry:


He's a fucking fictional character, ffs! :lol:


:nono:
Sure, but freedom of expression is a fundamental right no less important than equal protection of the law.
Okay, let Ronald express himself freely ... :tea:
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Re: Ban Ronald McDonald?

Post by maiforpeace » Thu Apr 15, 2010 6:42 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:
maiforpeace wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote: But, ok, I will not dispute that you find that to be a reason to ban Ronald. What I am wondering, though, is what are some of the other "many" reasons?
There's a bunch of good ones listed in the "Learn More" section of the 'Retire Ronald' campaign being promoted by the special interest group, Corporate Accountability International, that you were so kind to point out to me.
Such as?
Do you want me to pick for you? Why not just take each one of them down one by one. :biggrin:

I'm tiring of this argument, not because you are boring Coito but because we have deep idealogical differences about this and you are not going to convince me otherwise, or, I think vice versa. So, after a while the arguments are about as interesting to me as arguing about whether god exists or not. Feel free to accuse me of being wooish or not basing my beliefs about this subject on your ideas of reason - I won't be offended. I think I, and many others have offered some good reasonable arguments that are enough to convince me to support this kind of action, which I will do.

In the meantime I thank you for bringing this subject to my attention, it most certainly is an interesting and worthy one.
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Re: Ban Ronald McDonald?

Post by RuleBritannia » Thu Apr 15, 2010 6:42 pm

Ronald McDonald is EVERYWHERE!

Raising money to help children with Cystic Fibrosis.


Providing free lodging for parents of children with Strep B Meningitis.
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Re: Ban Ronald McDonald?

Post by Coito ergo sum » Thu Apr 15, 2010 6:43 pm

Charlou wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:
Charlou wrote:
RuleBritannia wrote:Why not sign this petition: http://www.petitiononline.com/8814/petition.html. After all some people don't want gays getting married.
Awww poor Ronald McDonald :cry: Image :cry:


He's a fucking fictional character, ffs! :lol:


:nono:
Sure, but freedom of expression is a fundamental right no less important than equal protection of the law.
Okay, let Ronald express himself freely ... :tea:
Organizations have freedom of expression too. You don't lose your right to free speech because you band together with other people either as a non-profit or for profit partnership, corporation, limited liability company, professional association or other entity. If Moveon.org has freedom of expression, so does McDonald's. :coffee:

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Re: Ban Ronald McDonald?

Post by Coito ergo sum » Thu Apr 15, 2010 6:51 pm

Gary Stible, whose company, the New England Consulting Group, helped develop Cheetos' Chester mascot, told me over the phone that these attacks are petty and misguided: "This is about people who have too much time on their hands, and ought to be out doing good, like Ronald McDonald is."

Ironically, this hubbub comes at a time when the world's most famous clown has largely disappeared from McDonald's ad campaigns. When, after all, is the last time you've seen Ronald McDonald in a TV ad? As the San Francisco Chronicle noted, his image is even tough to find on the McDonald's Web site. In recent years, he's mostly been relegated to the company's charity operations -- like the Ronald McDonald house -- international ad campaigns, and as a spokesman for healthier eating choices. Instead, McDonald's TV ads have centered around the company's slogans, like "I'm loving it" or the delightfully tragic "I'd hit it," and featured entertainers like the NSYNC and Britney Spears. It goes without saying that, in the age of Ke$ha, there's something decidely uncool about hawking your food with a red-wigged clown.

"It’s very clear that McDonald's has moved away from Ronald in their ads," says Darren Tristano, executive vice president at Technomic, a fast-food consulting firm. "Over the last 10 years it's become less about Ronald McDonald and more about the marketing of movies and toys to kids." The Playland concept -- the playgrounds located in McDonald's outlets that were widespread in the '70s and '80s -- has also been pushed to the wayside. "As younger generations have matured and become more sophisticated," Tristano says, "there's been less of an appeal to the circus theme and more of an appeal to contemporary figures, like athletes and celebrities."
http://www.salon.com/food/feature/2010/ ... d_mcdonald

No marketing of the words "I'm Lovin' It" to anyone under 18!

And, Britney Spears needs to be BANNED! You're BANNED Britney! Leave Britney alooooooone....

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Re: Ban Ronald McDonald?

Post by Coito ergo sum » Thu Apr 15, 2010 6:56 pm

BANNED!!!Image


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BAN ALL YOU MUTHAFUGGAS!!! Image



After all....they are advertising mascots for stuff a lot of people don't think other people should eat.

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Re: Ban Ronald McDonald?

Post by RuleBritannia » Thu Apr 15, 2010 7:17 pm

Why stop there Coito? Kids need more exercise and there are soooo many mascots preventing them from being active.

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