Ban Ronald McDonald?

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Should Ronald McDonald be banned?

Yes, ban him.
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43%
No, don't ban him.
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Maybe/Not sure
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5%
 
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Re: Ban Ronald McDonald?

Post by Hermit » Thu Apr 08, 2010 2:40 am

JimC wrote:
Seraph wrote:
RuleBritannia wrote:People don't buy fast food because it's advertised on TV, they buy it 'cause it's fast and easy.
Actually, they do both. They do buy fattening junk food because it is fast and easy, and they do buy more of it because its availability is constantly brought to their attention. If the latter wasn't the case, there'd be no point in advertising, would there?

As for the claim that junk food companies are only trying to steal market share from each other flies in the face of what capitalism is about.
And in any case, no one here would be advocating a reduction or limitation on only McDonald's advertising - there would need to be a reduction in ads for all obesity promoting foods in kids TV prime time...

And it certainly would be only one step amongst many - I agree with CES that the prime goal is to reduce the intake of fattening foods, and increase the level of exercise, which almost certainly means less TV & computer time, good eductation campaigns and some effort by parents. However, I think that reducing junk-food advertising directed at kids will help to achieve this goal. And yes, more research is needed, but you could combine such research with a trial reduction in a given city...
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Re: Ban Ronald McDonald?

Post by Valden » Thu Apr 08, 2010 2:46 am

-Has given up fast food a couple months ago- I'm now the only one in my family who refuses anything like McDonalds. :biggrin:

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Re: Ban Ronald McDonald?

Post by JimC » Thu Apr 08, 2010 3:43 am

Valden wrote:-Has given up fast food a couple months ago- I'm now the only one in my family who refuses anything like McDonalds. :biggrin:
I'm the only one in ours who (occasionally) eats it! :shock: :hehe:

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Re: Ban Ronald McDonald?

Post by leo-rcc » Thu Apr 08, 2010 8:09 am

JimC wrote:
Valden wrote:-Has given up fast food a couple months ago- I'm now the only one in my family who refuses anything like McDonalds. :biggrin:
I'm the only one in ours who (occasionally) eats it! :shock: :hehe:

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Re: Ban Ronald McDonald?

Post by RuleBritannia » Thu Apr 08, 2010 9:57 am

Seraph wrote:
RuleBritannia wrote:People don't buy fast food because it's advertised on TV, they buy it 'cause it's fast and easy.
Actually, they do both. They do buy fattening junk food because it is fast and easy, and they do buy more of it because its availability is constantly brought to their attention. If the latter wasn't the case, there'd be no point in advertising, would there?
I can't agree, advertising for cigarettes has been banned for years yet virtually everyone can name at least one brand and most could name four, five or maybe six.

The reason the amount of smokers is going down is because of education into the health effects and banning of smoking in public places. Banning the adverts does nothing because everyone already knows that cigarettes exist, same goes for McDonalds.
Seraph wrote:As for the claim that junk food companies are only trying to steal market share from each other flies in the face of what capitalism is about.
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Re: Ban Ronald McDonald?

Post by Coito ergo sum » Thu Apr 08, 2010 1:32 pm

JimC wrote:
Seraph wrote:
RuleBritannia wrote:People don't buy fast food because it's advertised on TV, they buy it 'cause it's fast and easy.
Actually, they do both. They do buy fattening junk food because it is fast and easy, and they do buy more of it because its availability is constantly brought to their attention. If the latter wasn't the case, there'd be no point in advertising, would there?

As for the claim that junk food companies are only trying to steal market share from each other flies in the face of what capitalism is about.
And in any case, no one here would be advocating a reduction or limitation on only McDonald's advertising - there would need to be a reduction in ads for all obesity promoting foods in kids TV prime time...
Well, the group cited in the OP is after Ronald McDonald in particular. I'm sure they would later go after "the King" for some reason too.

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Re: Ban Ronald McDonald?

Post by Coito ergo sum » Thu Apr 08, 2010 1:35 pm

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RuleBritannia wrote:
Seraph wrote:
RuleBritannia wrote:People don't buy fast food because it's advertised on TV, they buy it 'cause it's fast and easy.
Actually, they do both. They do buy fattening junk food because it is fast and easy, and they do buy more of it because its availability is constantly brought to their attention. If the latter wasn't the case, there'd be no point in advertising, would there?
I can't agree, advertising for cigarettes has been banned for years yet virtually everyone can name at least one brand and most could name four, five or maybe six.

The reason the amount of smokers is going down is because of education into the health effects and banning of smoking in public places. Banning the adverts does nothing because everyone already knows that cigarettes exist, same goes for McDonalds.
Seraph wrote:As for the claim that junk food companies are only trying to steal market share from each other flies in the face of what capitalism is about.
Capitalism is when capital and the means of production are privately owned. Everything else is optional.
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Re: Ban Ronald McDonald?

Post by Martok » Thu Apr 08, 2010 6:07 pm

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Re: Ban Ronald McDonald?

Post by Epictetus » Thu Apr 08, 2010 6:20 pm

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Re: Ban Ronald McDonald?

Post by sandinista » Tue Apr 13, 2010 8:57 pm

yah, fuck mcshit and ronald mcshit. Ban em both, Nice to see the "ban" votes are winning out slightly.
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Re: Ban Ronald McDonald?

Post by Coito ergo sum » Tue Apr 13, 2010 10:15 pm

sandinista wrote:yah, fuck mcshit and ronald mcshit. Ban em both, Nice to see the "ban" votes are winning out slightly.
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Re: Ban Ronald McDonald?

Post by maiforpeace » Tue Apr 13, 2010 10:33 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:
sandinista wrote:yah, fuck mcshit and ronald mcshit. Ban em both, Nice to see the "ban" votes are winning out slightly.
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Re: Ban Ronald McDonald?

Post by sandinista » Tue Apr 13, 2010 11:41 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:
sandinista wrote:yah, fuck mcshit and ronald mcshit. Ban em both, Nice to see the "ban" votes are winning out slightly.
This is how liberty dies....with thunderous applause.... :clap:
what are you on about? Liberty?
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