Shroud image crappola

[JimC]

From todays Age here (my colouration)

DIGITAL artists have recreated the face of Jesus - and he's nothing like the man depicted in Renaissance paintings, British reports say.

The 3D image of Christ was made using the Shroud of Turin, the linen sheet believed to have been laid on the body of Jesus in his tomb, London's Daily Telegraph reports.

''There's a long tradition in Christian theology and Christian history of seeking the face of Christ - of wanting to know what he was like as a man,'' Catholic priest and author Father Jonathan Morris told US television's ABC News.

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Digital artists work on the 3D image.


But the new image of one of the key figures in Christianity - which will be unveiled on a History Channel program - is expected to arouse some controversy.

It is a far cry from the fair man painted by Renaissance artists.

Jesus, in the 3D version, is swarthy and 1.72 metres tall, compared to the paintings' representation of Jesus as fair, slim and tall.

''I have a lot of information about that face and my estimation is we're pretty darn close to what this man looked like,'' said digital artist Ray Downing, who was the lead artist on the project. ''The solution was to realise that the shroud wasn't hanging on the wall - it was wrapping a corpse. That's the crux of the problem - the face is hidden in there,'' he said.

Downing said he and his team used the imprints on the cloth to get a ''blueprint'' of Jesus's image.

But he said the marks on the shroud alone were not enough to recreate the complete figure.

''Inevitably, you do run out of information. You can't see the pores in a linen fabric. There are no eyebrows.

''It doesn't take a lot of guesswork to assign pores and skin texture to a model, to know that the man did have eyebrows and to provide them.

''At some point, you do have to leave the realm of actual information and use experience.''

The Shroud of Turin itself has been the subject of debate.

When the shroud was carbon-dated in 1988, it appeared to have been created in the 13th century, and not during Jesus's lifetime, suggesting it was fake.

The image is going on display at Turin Cathedral in Italy next month.

Appeared? Suggesting?

It has been clearly shown to be a fake. Now the media is hyping up some dodgy image creation...

[Epictetus]

The Shroud of Turin may be a forgery, but you cannot deny the power of this image:

[FBM]

The Shroud of Turin may be a forgery, but you cannot deny the power of this image:

Thanks for that. You saved me the trouble of tracking it down.

[CJ]

Actually I saw an extremely convincing TV programme that refuted the 1300 dating. I would have dismissed this if it had not been for the fact that the refutation was made by one of the original people who tested the samples for carbon dating. On the basis of that evidence I would agree that the shroud is contemporary to the nominal time of the death of Christ. It says nothing about the person who was in the shroud or how the image was made but the carbon dating to the 1300 is as far as I am concerned highly suspect.

I'll try and find a link to the programme I saw.

[JimC]

Actually I saw an extremely convincing TV programme that refuted the 1300 dating. I would have dismissed this if it had not been for the fact that the refutation was made by one of the original people who tested the samples for carbon dating. On the basis of that evidence I would agree that the shroud is contemporary to the nominal time of the death of Christ. It says nothing about the person who was in the shroud or how the image was made but the carbon dating to the 1300 is as far as I am concerned highly suspect.

I'll try and find a link to the programme I saw.

Did a Wiki search, and found this

The documentary is mentioned in the article; overall, it suggests to me that another, carefully planned dating exercise is needed, but I bet the church will not agree to it...

[maiforpeace]

This shroud business has been recycled how many times now?

[beige]

This shroud business has been recycled how many times now?

Far too many?