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Post by Coito ergo sum » Sat Apr 03, 2010 12:55 pm

Activists block whale meat carrying ship in Netherlands
Apr 2 07:38 AM US/Eastern
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Greenpeace activists chained themselves to the mooring ropes of a ship in the Netherlands Friday to stop it transporting a cargo of whale meat to Japan, officials and the environmental group said.
Fifteen protesters took the action at 4:30 am (0230 GMT) against a Panamanian-flaggged vessel docked at Rotterdam which was carrying seven containers of meat from Iceland, said Greenpeace organiser Pavel Klinckhamers.

"We will stay here for as long as necessary, until we are sure that the containers carrying the whale meat are not going to leave for Japan," Klinckhamers told AFP.
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id ... _article=1

I'm thinking of blocking the tuna, cod and pollock boats. Save the fish, too!

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Post by Feck » Sat Apr 03, 2010 1:19 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:
Activists block whale meat carrying ship in Netherlands
Apr 2 07:38 AM US/Eastern
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In this handout picture received from Greenpeace members of the Dutch coast...

Greenpeace activists chained themselves to the mooring ropes of a ship in the Netherlands Friday to stop it transporting a cargo of whale meat to Japan, officials and the environmental group said.
Fifteen protesters took the action at 4:30 am (0230 GMT) against a Panamanian-flaggged vessel docked at Rotterdam which was carrying seven containers of meat from Iceland, said Greenpeace organiser Pavel Klinckhamers.

"We will stay here for as long as necessary, until we are sure that the containers carrying the whale meat are not going to leave for Japan," Klinckhamers told AFP.
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id ... _article=1

I'm thinking of blocking the tuna, cod and pollock boats. Save the fish, too!
Well there will not be any tuna soon, there are precious little cod and commercial selling of whale meat is immoral .
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Post by Coito ergo sum » Sat Apr 03, 2010 1:20 pm

Feck wrote:
Coito ergo sum wrote:
Activists block whale meat carrying ship in Netherlands
Apr 2 07:38 AM US/Eastern
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In this handout picture received from Greenpeace members of the Dutch coast...

Greenpeace activists chained themselves to the mooring ropes of a ship in the Netherlands Friday to stop it transporting a cargo of whale meat to Japan, officials and the environmental group said.
Fifteen protesters took the action at 4:30 am (0230 GMT) against a Panamanian-flaggged vessel docked at Rotterdam which was carrying seven containers of meat from Iceland, said Greenpeace organiser Pavel Klinckhamers.

"We will stay here for as long as necessary, until we are sure that the containers carrying the whale meat are not going to leave for Japan," Klinckhamers told AFP.
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id ... _article=1

I'm thinking of blocking the tuna, cod and pollock boats. Save the fish, too!
Well there will not be any tuna soon, there are precious little cod and commercial selling of whale meat is immoral .
Immoral? Why? On what basis?

And, do you have any evidence that "there will not be any tuna soon?" How soon, approximately?

Precious little cod? On what basis do you say that?

But, hey - if you're right, then maybe it's more immoral to sell cod fish than whale meat....

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Post by Martok » Sat Apr 03, 2010 1:49 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:
I'm thinking of blocking the tuna, cod and pollock boats. Save the fish, too!
Atta boy! :clap: :td:

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Post by AshtonBlack » Sat Apr 03, 2010 1:55 pm

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Looks like a downward trend to me.

Tuna (Oh and sharks) stocks seem to interest the UN, who say they are declining.

http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs/2010/sea1927.doc.htm

A conservation/exploration site, also agree (but they would... wouldn't they?)

http://www.cousteau.org/news/coml-tuna

The moral issues of whaling?

It's not an absolute but relatively speaking, wiping out a species for luxury food, can be considered by some a touch short sighted.

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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sat Apr 03, 2010 2:03 pm

AshtonBlack wrote:It's not an absolute but relatively speaking, wiping out a species for luxury food, can be considered by some a touch short sighted.
And, of course, the last cetacean will be heard to say, "So long and thanks for all the fish."
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Post by RuleBritannia » Sat Apr 03, 2010 2:04 pm

I think Greenpeace would block a shipment of whale meat to Ethiopia.
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Post by tattuchu » Sat Apr 03, 2010 2:10 pm

Tuna doesn't taste as good since they took all the dolphin out of it :cry:
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Post by Azathoth » Sat Apr 03, 2010 2:24 pm

Whale meat is nom :food:

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Post by Coito ergo sum » Sat Apr 03, 2010 3:03 pm

tattuchu wrote:Tuna doesn't taste as good since they took all the dolphin out of it :cry:


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Post by maiforpeace » Sat Apr 03, 2010 3:44 pm

Coito ergo sum wrote:
I'm thinking of blocking the tuna, cod and pollock boats. Save the fish, too!
If you do, then you have my full support. ;)

The problem with the commercial fishing of tuna, cod and pollock isn't just the dessimation of those species, but of tons of other species of bycatch that gets trapped in the nets. There are 145 species of other fish, many of them who have been rendered endangered, that are killed gratuitously along with the tuna, cod and pollock. The only reason for this demand is our greedy tastes for wanting to eat more fish than we need to, and to eat fish we prefer the taste of. We don't like to eat the fish that are not only much more plentiful and caught by methods that don't include tons of bycatch, but are also much better for our health - like anchovies, sardines and mackerel.

The kind of whale meat these activists are protesting has not been a part of the traditional Japanese diet until recently. (by that I mean within the last century or so) The only whale meat that the Japanese ate before industrialized commercial fishing was whale that was caught by "passive" vs "active" methods. By the former method of whaling, people catch weak (wounded, sick or decrepit) whales or stranded whales (chased onto the beach by killer whales). So I'm going to take the unpopular position of supporting this particular activist action on the part of Greenpeace. I would like to qualify, however, that I don't necessarily support everything they do.
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Post by Valden » Sat Apr 03, 2010 6:26 pm

Bluefin Tuna is going to be fished straight into extinction if they don't bother to give the species at least a few years (maybe a decade?) to repopulate. And once it's extinct, they'll have no one but themselves to blame.

As for whales, they don't birth calves all that often, and it takes years for them to grow old enough to be able to reproduce. Several are already having population issues due to whaling. It be long now for the Mink whale to follow that trend and end up endangered.
maiforpeace wrote: By the former method of whaling, people catch weak (wounded, sick or decrepit) whales or stranded whales (chased onto the beach by killer whales). So I'm going to take the unpopular position of supporting this particular activist action on the part of Greenpeace. I would like to qualify, however, that I don't necessarily support everything they do.
I agree, I'd support that as well.
But sadly they now go after all the adults whales. And I shall assume pregnant females as well, which further just forces the species closer to being endangered.

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Post by Deep Sea Isopod » Sun Apr 04, 2010 8:18 am

I'm with Greenpeace on this one.

Shark finning is cruel, too.
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Post by redunderthebed » Sun Apr 04, 2010 9:56 am

Valden wrote:Bluefin Tuna is going to be fished straight into extinction if they don't bother to give the species at least a few years (maybe a decade?) to repopulate. And once it's extinct, they'll have no one but themselves to blame.
Not true its only the northern blue fin tuna that is in trouble but the southern blue fin tuna is fine and is quite sustainable for many years to come. What is necessary is a quota system that is respected by everyone and enforced and that is not happening and until you do that nothing will change.

The countries and boats that don't give a fuck will fish anyway you don't think the japs won't buy illegal fished tuna then you are sorely mistaken.It will just send it underground and put companies and people who do play by the rules out of a job and out of business.

I'm glad it wasn't banned at the last meeting to decide the list of banned species. Because the southern blue fin tuna would of being in the greenies sight next which would of destroyed my town because 10 years without fishing tuna will kill the industries and put everyone out of business.

Whilst the japs who don't play by the rules (There activities are threatening the existence in the long-term now of the tuna) will come into our waters and take all the tuna and the govt won't do shit about it lest we offend a giant cash cow our biggest trading partner. :roll:
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Post by FBM » Sun Apr 04, 2010 10:51 am

Phht! There's about 1.5 million species on Earth. Losing 4 or 5 is about like a millionaire buying a Big Mac. Anyway, if we start running low on species, all we have to do is divide each of the surviving species into two based on some minute morphological characteristic and viola! The number of species is doubled! Everybody wins! Yay!!














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