The right to strike

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Re: The right to strike

Post by Tigger » Fri Apr 02, 2010 2:51 pm

born-again-atheist wrote:If public transport shuts down it has a far greater impact than just making people late, and having to find other modes of transport.
If they plan to do it on any business day, then no it's simply far too wide-reaching. Do it every Sunday, or something.
This just lessens the impact of the industrial action as far as some people are concerned, rendering the strike "weaker", but I totally agree with you. There are always those who take the "us and them" attitude to employment, often just for the sake of some misplaced political ideology.
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Re: The right to strike

Post by RuleBritannia » Fri Apr 02, 2010 2:53 pm

born-again-atheist wrote:If public transport shuts down it has a far greater impact than just making people late, and having to find other modes of transport.
If they plan to do it on any business day, then no it's simply far too wide-reaching. Do it every Sunday, or something.
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Re: The right to strike

Post by RuleBritannia » Fri Apr 02, 2010 2:56 pm

Tigger wrote:
born-again-atheist wrote:If public transport shuts down it has a far greater impact than just making people late, and having to find other modes of transport.
If they plan to do it on any business day, then no it's simply far too wide-reaching. Do it every Sunday, or something.
This just lessens the impact of the industrial action as far as some people are concerned, rendering the strike "weaker", but I totally agree with you. There are always those who take the "us and them" attitude to employment, often just for the sake of some misplaced political ideology.
And what would that "misplaced political ideology" be?
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Re: The right to strike

Post by The Red Fox » Fri Apr 02, 2010 3:07 pm

Tigger wrote:
born-again-atheist wrote:If public transport shuts down it has a far greater impact than just making people late, and having to find other modes of transport.
If they plan to do it on any business day, then no it's simply far too wide-reaching. Do it every Sunday, or something.
This just lessens the impact of the industrial action as far as some people are concerned, rendering the strike "weaker", but I totally agree with you. There are always those who take the "us and them" attitude to employment, often just for the sake of some misplaced political ideology.
A lot of the time it's necessary. Without the WSPU's militancy (some in the day would have argued terrorism) women would not have the vote. The poll tax riots "inconvenienced" business owners, but something greater came out of it - repealing the Poll Tax and Thatcher's resignation. Ghandi, Mandela, Castro, Guevara, Lenin, Pankhurst, Martin Luther King...Without their "misplaced political ideology" the world would be a worse place to live in.
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Re: The right to strike

Post by Tigger » Fri Apr 02, 2010 6:55 pm

RuleBritannia wrote:
Tigger wrote:
born-again-atheist wrote:If public transport shuts down it has a far greater impact than just making people late, and having to find other modes of transport.
If they plan to do it on any business day, then no it's simply far too wide-reaching. Do it every Sunday, or something.
This just lessens the impact of the industrial action as far as some people are concerned, rendering the strike "weaker", but I totally agree with you. There are always those who take the "us and them" attitude to employment, often just for the sake of some misplaced political ideology.
And what would that "misplaced political ideology" be?
One sometimes finds people living in circumstances that bely their expressed opinions: the vocal communist living well in a capitalist society; the priest with the penchant for little boys; the clean-living politician with a mistress; the sort of person who goes along with such opinions without consideration of the impact of their actions or the actions they support until it actually makes a difference to them. That kind of thing.
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Re: The right to strike

Post by RuleBritannia » Fri Apr 02, 2010 7:17 pm

Tigger wrote:One sometimes finds people living in circumstances that bely their expressed opinions: the vocal communist living well in a capitalist society; the priest with the penchant for little boys; the clean-living politician with a mistress; the sort of person who goes along with such opinions without consideration of the impact of their actions or the actions they support until it actually makes a difference to them. That kind of thing.
I fail to see what that has to do with striking over working conditions.
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Re: The right to strike

Post by Tigger » Fri Apr 02, 2010 7:24 pm

RuleBritannia wrote:
Tigger wrote:One sometimes finds people living in circumstances that bely their expressed opinions: the vocal communist living well in a capitalist society; the priest with the penchant for little boys; the clean-living politician with a mistress; the sort of person who goes along with such opinions without consideration of the impact of their actions or the actions they support until it actually makes a difference to them. That kind of thing.
I fail to see what that has to do with striking over working conditions.
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Re: The right to strike

Post by Rum » Fri Apr 02, 2010 8:27 pm

Tigger wrote:
RuleBritannia wrote:
Tigger wrote:One sometimes finds people living in circumstances that bely their expressed opinions: the vocal communist living well in a capitalist society; the priest with the penchant for little boys; the clean-living politician with a mistress; the sort of person who goes along with such opinions without consideration of the impact of their actions or the actions they support until it actually makes a difference to them. That kind of thing.
I fail to see what that has to do with striking over working conditions.
Ok.
Sorted then. :coffee:

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Re: The right to strike

Post by Tigger » Fri Apr 02, 2010 8:33 pm

Rum wrote:
Tigger wrote:
RuleBritannia wrote:
Tigger wrote:One sometimes finds people living in circumstances that bely their expressed opinions: the vocal communist living well in a capitalist society; the priest with the penchant for little boys; the clean-living politician with a mistress; the sort of person who goes along with such opinions without consideration of the impact of their actions or the actions they support until it actually makes a difference to them. That kind of thing.
I fail to see what that has to do with striking over working conditions.
Ok.
Sorted then. :coffee:
Yep. Can't be arsed TBH. :tup:
I'd make a crap politician/debater.
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Re: The right to strike

Post by Rum » Fri Apr 02, 2010 8:43 pm

Tigger wrote:
Rum wrote:
Tigger wrote:
RuleBritannia wrote:
Tigger wrote:One sometimes finds people living in circumstances that bely their expressed opinions: the vocal communist living well in a capitalist society; the priest with the penchant for little boys; the clean-living politician with a mistress; the sort of person who goes along with such opinions without consideration of the impact of their actions or the actions they support until it actually makes a difference to them. That kind of thing.
I fail to see what that has to do with striking over working conditions.
Ok.
Sorted then. :coffee:
Yep. Can't be arsed TBH. :tup:
I'd make a crap politician/debater.
Join the club. Far too much fuss made of stuff. :coffee:

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Re: The right to strike

Post by Tigger » Fri Apr 02, 2010 8:45 pm

Tigger wrote:
Rum wrote:
Tigger wrote:
RuleBritannia wrote:
Tigger wrote:One sometimes finds people living in circumstances that bely their expressed opinions: the vocal communist living well in a capitalist society; the priest with the penchant for little boys; the clean-living politician with a mistress; the sort of person who goes along with such opinions without consideration of the impact of their actions or the actions they support until it actually makes a difference to them. That kind of thing.
I fail to see what that has to do with striking over working conditions.
Ok.
Sorted then. :coffee:
Yep. Can't be arsed TBH. :tup:
I'd make a crap politician/debater.
Rum wrote:Join the club. Far too much fuss made of stuff. :coffee:
Fancy a cuppa? :coffee:
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Re: The right to strike

Post by Rum » Fri Apr 02, 2010 8:54 pm

Tigger wrote:
Rum wrote:Join the club. Far too much fuss made of stuff. :coffee:
Fancy a cuppa? :coffee:
Please. No sugar thanks.

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Re: The right to strike

Post by Tigger » Fri Apr 02, 2010 9:07 pm

Pissing down. I need to air the dog too. Farting a lot she is.
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Re: The right to strike

Post by Rum » Fri Apr 02, 2010 9:11 pm

Tigger wrote:Pissing down. I need to air the dog too. Farting a lot she is.
Me too.

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Re: The right to strike

Post by Trolldor » Fri Apr 02, 2010 11:30 pm

The Red Fox wrote:
Tigger wrote:
born-again-atheist wrote:If public transport shuts down it has a far greater impact than just making people late, and having to find other modes of transport.
If they plan to do it on any business day, then no it's simply far too wide-reaching. Do it every Sunday, or something.
This just lessens the impact of the industrial action as far as some people are concerned, rendering the strike "weaker", but I totally agree with you. There are always those who take the "us and them" attitude to employment, often just for the sake of some misplaced political ideology.
A lot of the time it's necessary. Without the WSPU's militancy (some in the day would have argued terrorism) women would not have the vote. The poll tax riots "inconvenienced" business owners, but something greater came out of it - repealing the Poll Tax and Thatcher's resignation. Ghandi, Mandela, Castro, Guevara, Lenin, Pankhurst, Martin Luther King...Without their "misplaced political ideology" the world would be a worse place to live in.
The same can be said of any significant historical figure from Alexander the Great to Goering. Without them the world wouldn't be what it is today. But worse? I hardly think so. You're speculating on an indeterminable alternate future based on nothing. You have no idea what the world would be like without them.
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