Circumcision - a rational debate

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Re: Involuntary Circumcision

Post by Valden » Sun Mar 14, 2010 5:31 am

virphen wrote:I don't get how people could possibly not have a problem with the genital mutilation of infants.
Some think that they're "doing the right thing" for the boy.
I actually called a friend of mine, a monster, because she is seriously considering circumcision on her baby boy once he's born. :ddpan: She didn't take it to well. :hehe:

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Re: Involuntary Circumcision

Post by virphen » Sun Mar 14, 2010 5:33 am

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virphen wrote:I don't get how people could possibly not have a problem with the genital mutilation of infants.
Some think that they're "doing the right thing" for the boy.
I actually called a friend of mine, a monster, because she is seriously considering circumcision on her baby boy once he's born. :ddpan: She didn't take it to well. :hehe:
We should stop using the word circumcision, and use the term genital mutilation. Stop those in favour from hiding under a euphemism.

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Re: Involuntary Circumcision

Post by Valden » Sun Mar 14, 2010 5:40 am

virphen wrote:
Valden wrote:
virphen wrote:I don't get how people could possibly not have a problem with the genital mutilation of infants.
Some think that they're "doing the right thing" for the boy.
I actually called a friend of mine, a monster, because she is seriously considering circumcision on her baby boy once he's born. :ddpan: She didn't take it to well. :hehe:
We should stop using the word circumcision, and use the term genital mutilation. Stop those in favour from hiding under a euphemism.
Agreed. I also called it that, and several of those who are "indifferent" towards it (those kinds of people piss me off) freaked out when I called it "Mutilation" as well. Of course, I still use it anyways. :td:

One was like "I wouldn't go as far as to call it mutilation..."
And I was like "I would." :biggrin:

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Re: Involuntary Circumcision

Post by MissingNo. » Sun Mar 14, 2010 6:08 am

Valden wrote:
virphen wrote: We should stop using the word circumcision, and use the term genital mutilation. Stop those in favour from hiding under a euphemism.
Agreed. I also called it that, and several of those who are "indifferent" towards it (those kinds of people piss me off) freaked out when I called it "Mutilation" as well. Of course, I still use it anyways. :td:

One was like "I wouldn't go as far as to call it mutilation..."
And I was like "I would." :biggrin:
They wouldn't call it genital mutilation because they've been socially conditioned to accept it. I agree that it need to be understood that circumcision is genital mutilation. It's not some harmless medical procedure.

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Re: Involuntary Circumcision

Post by irreligionist » Sun Mar 14, 2010 6:13 am

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Holy shit! When I first saw this, I thought it was some barbaric device from an archaic medical practice but these things are actually used in contemporary infant circumcision! That is disturbing.
Gah! And to think some people delude themselves into thinking that if their son is mutilated as a newborn that they don't feel much pain.

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Re: Involuntary Circumcision

Post by Mephistopheles » Sun Mar 14, 2010 7:27 am

heyzeus wrote:
Valden wrote:
virphen wrote: We should stop using the word circumcision, and use the term genital mutilation. Stop those in favour from hiding under a euphemism.
Agreed. I also called it that, and several of those who are "indifferent" towards it (those kinds of people piss me off) freaked out when I called it "Mutilation" as well. Of course, I still use it anyways. :td:

One was like "I wouldn't go as far as to call it mutilation..."
And I was like "I would." :biggrin:
They wouldn't call it genital mutilation because they've been socially conditioned to accept it. I agree that it need to be understood that circumcision is genital mutilation. It's not some harmless medical procedure.
It's hard to call it anything but after seeing one. *shudder*

That ranks up there with my nightmares of having my eyeballs plucked out with a spoon or clavicle clipped by gardening shears. Certain forms of gore are just...disturbing.

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Re: Involuntary Circumcision

Post by mozg » Sun Mar 14, 2010 1:44 pm

heyzeus wrote:They wouldn't call it genital mutilation because they've been socially conditioned to accept it. I agree that it need to be understood that circumcision is genital mutilation. It's not some harmless medical procedure.
A lot of the men are in very, very deep denial about it. Many of them don't believe that male genital mutilation even leaves a scar. I have actually shown several of my exes the scar on their own penises. They had no idea that it was a scar until they were told. Most of them seemed to be under the impression that penises just look that way, and had no idea that by removing too much tissue it might actually be their circumcision that makes their penis curve in one direction or the other when they were erect.

It's no different than the women in Africa who have had their labia cut off, and who will do the same to their daughters. They say they weren't mutilated.

Foreskin is a good thing. Intact guys are, in my extensive personal observation, way more interesting in bed.
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Re: Involuntary Circumcision

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sun Mar 14, 2010 1:46 pm

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Re: Involuntary Circumcision

Post by mozg » Mon Mar 15, 2010 9:41 pm

Gawdzilla wrote:
Tigger wrote:
lordpasternack wrote:Hi guys. I'm in Melbourne right now, pissed, and it's currently coming up for 5am. I shall get onto this when I can... :td:
We await with bated breath. ;)
Watch that gag reflex. :hehe:
It can be controlled. :naughty:
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Re: Circumcision - a rational debate

Post by SamanthaJane » Tue Mar 23, 2010 8:47 am

I have always had a very strong reaction to male circumcision.

Most of my lovers have been circumcised ... in fact all of them except for my first. I have always been against circumcision, because my dad was an adult 'victim' of genital mutilation. I was very lucky that my parents have always spoken to me very plainly about sex and anything related thereto. I remember asking my mum at 13ish what circumcision was and having my dad show me what circumcision looked like ... I had to point out to him that I didn't know what un circumcised looked like so thanks but ... really dad did you have to do that? But he meant well. Growing up with nudist ex hippies was always interesting.

But then Dad then took me though all of the information he had, and his experience with a doctor who treated a mild but reoccurring skin irritation with amputation of his foreskin in his early 20's. He then explained to me how it affected him mentally and sexually. He lost feeling, a ton of feeling, and he is still furious about it, especially since the doctor said he wouldn't.

My husband is a fabulous man, and he has an amazing cock, no really I think its magical or something. He was circumcised when he was young and doesn't know the difference personally ... but as a scientific minded guy ... he totally knows the difference analytically.

When our son was born it wasn't a question. Well mum asked the question and we both reacted with a resounding 'NO'. Interestingly we asked in our hospital visit before his birth what we had to do to ensure he would not be circumcised ... Canadian hospitals will not do it on their property as it is 'a cosmetic surgery' and you have to pay for it and set it up as such.

My best friend, a very intelligent woman in my mind, had her son cut. His father is of jewish decent but completely non-religious. He wanted his son cut to match him. I wonder what our sons will say to each other once they hit the 'you show me yours I'll show you mine' stage. My guess is they will both go back to their parents and ask what the difference is. I'm going to be very glad I can say, "it is your body son, I don't have the right to alter it cosmetically"

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Re: Circumcision - a rational debate

Post by Surendra Darathy » Tue Mar 23, 2010 11:28 pm

I can say confidently that only on a couple of isolated occasions have I ever been unsatisfied with the performance and responsiveness of my circumcised penis, and have had many accolades on its utility from appreciative partners. Hold the applause for just a few moments, and I will be brief in concluding my remarks here this afternoon.

I recognise the opportunities lost along with my foreskin. You can't miss what you never had.

With my blessings, I give you this for a new bumper sticker campaign: Circumcise matters.
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Re: Circumcision - a rational debate

Post by Comte de Saint-Germain » Tue Mar 23, 2010 11:39 pm

With my blessings, I give you this for a new bumper sticker campaign: Circumcise matters.
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Re: Circumcision - a rational debate

Post by charlou » Wed Mar 24, 2010 4:00 am

Surendra Darathy wrote:I can say confidently that only on a couple of isolated occasions have I ever been unsatisfied with the performance and responsiveness of my circumcised penis, and have had many accolades on its utility from appreciative partners. Hold the applause for just a few moments, and I will be brief in concluding my remarks here this afternoon.

I recognise the opportunities lost along with my foreskin. You can't miss what you never had.

With my blessings, I give you this for a new bumper sticker campaign: Circumcise matters.
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