5 reasons atheism is irrational

[Ayaan]

1 Corinthians 14:34-35
http://bible.cc/1_corinthians/14-34.htm
women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says. (New international version)
http://bible.cc/1_corinthians/14-35.htm
If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church. (New international version)

I gotta try that shit with Ayaan.

Ever had a hot teakettle shoved where the sun don't shine?

Flirt.

On second thought, doing that to a mutant 121.92-meter fire-breathing lizard-thingy is probably redundant. Maybe I'll launch the hyperactive kitten at him. :twisted:

[Gawdzilla Sama]

1 Corinthians 14:34-35
http://bible.cc/1_corinthians/14-34.htm
women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says. (New international version)
http://bible.cc/1_corinthians/14-35.htm
If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church. (New international version)

I gotta try that shit with Ayaan.

Ever had a hot teakettle shoved where the sun don't shine?

Flirt.

On second thought, doing that to a mutant 121.92-meter fire-breathing lizard-thingy is probably redundant. Maybe I'll launch the hyperactive kitten at him. :twisted:

[Gawdzilla Sama]

BTW, the kitten in question just knocked over a 27" TV.

[Rum]

And yet there are clearly more people reinforcing that stereotype than challenging it. Sexism (through portraying women as just sex objects for men) seems to abound as much, if not more, in atheism than it does in does in religion. Which is a little sad, especially considering the promising state humanism was in 30 years ago.

I love the 'in atheism' bit.

[Deep Sea Isopod]

BTW, the kitten in question just knocked over a 27" TV.

Is this what's known as cause and effect? Because I quoted the bible, thousands of miles away a 27" tv was knocked over,

[Hermit]

BTW, the kitten in question just knocked over a 27" TV.

Sounds like Mayhem. She knocked over two sets of bookcases while we were in Adelaide for a few days. She wern't called Mayhem fer nuthin'.

[Ayaan]

BTW, the kitten in question just knocked over a 27" TV.

And less than a week after getting spayed. I knew the hyperactive kitten was more of threat than the hot teakettle.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

BTW, the kitten in question just knocked over a 27" TV.

Sounds like Mayhem. She knocked over two sets of bookcases while we were in Adelaide for a few days. She wern't called Mayhem fer nuthin'.

We call Cyndi "TT", Tiny Tiger.

[Ayaan]

BTW, the kitten in question just knocked over a 27" TV.

Sounds like Mayhem. She knocked over two sets of bookcases while we were in Adelaide for a few days. She wern't called Mayhem fer nuthin'.

We call Cyndi "TT", Tiny Tiger.

Tiny Terror works too.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

BTW, the kitten in question just knocked over a 27" TV.

Sounds like Mayhem. She knocked over two sets of bookcases while we were in Adelaide for a few days. She wern't called Mayhem fer nuthin'.

We call Cyndi "TT", Tiny Tiger.

Tiny Terror works too.

Or just The Terror.

[Ayaan]

I think that works even better.

[FBM]

Thanks for the clarification FBM. I think we would both agree that truth is not about what we do or don't like. We can say we don't like something; but that is a very different statement from saying something is not true. In atheism (as with religion) I think that sometimes "I don't like it" and "I don't think it is true" get a little muddled.

I largely agree. Thing is, in my experience, theists tend to believe because it makes them feel good, i.e., they like or prefer it, rather than because there's any evidence for it. People who use reason see belief in something for which there is no evidence as a profound error. If we could just go around saying that whatever we liked was true without providing and supporting evidence for it, there would be no basis for knowledge at all, would there? I mean, look at your avatar. It's full of idealistic, warm-fuzzy, romantic dreams. It reflects what you want to feel, what you want to be true, despite lack of any evidence that it actually is. (I don't mean that to sound harsh or insulting, btw.)

I hasten to add that non-theists also have unfounded beliefs, and some of them cling stubbornly to them.

*cough*

[Theophilus]

Thanks for the clarification FBM. I think we would both agree that truth is not about what we do or don't like. We can say we don't like something; but that is a very different statement from saying something is not true. In atheism (as with religion) I think that sometimes "I don't like it" and "I don't think it is true" get a little muddled.

I largely agree. Thing is, in my experience, theists tend to believe because it makes them feel good, i.e., they like or prefer it, rather than because there's any evidence for it. People who use reason see belief in something for which there is no evidence as a profound error. If we could just go around saying that whatever we liked was true without providing and supporting evidence for it, there would be no basis for knowledge at all, would there? I mean, look at your avatar. It's full of idealistic, warm-fuzzy, romantic dreams. It reflects what you want to feel, what you want to be true, despite lack of any evidence that it actually is. (I don't mean that to sound harsh or insulting, btw.)

I hasten to add that non-theists also have unfounded beliefs, and some of them cling stubbornly to them. In my case, my fundamental ontology was deeply challenged by the fact that the Saints went to the Superbowl, and completely shattered when they actually won.

Yes, I think the emotional side can attract people to faith. I'm not sure how well it keeps them there though, especially if they start to dig deeper. Sooner or later I think people come across theology which is quite discomforting, counter-cultural and can be quite difficult to accept because it can be difficult to like or difficult to put into practice. As Timothy Radcliffe put it "the point of being a Christian is not because of what it does and doesn't do for us or for society, the only ultimate point of being a Christian is that it's true". There is a lot of evidence (in prime place would be the Gospels), but I would say not enough for conclusive proof.

I'll concede my avatar presents the comforting side of Christianity (which is an important part of Christianity).

[Tigger]

BTW, the kitten in question just knocked over a 27" TV.

Sounds like Mayhem. She knocked over two sets of bookcases while we were in Adelaide for a few days. She wern't called Mayhem fer nuthin'.

We call Cyndi "TT", Tiny Tiger.

Tiny Terror works too.

Or just The Terror.

tt.jpg

I don't even know why I did this:

[Gawdzilla Sama]