Truly revolting piece by Andrew Brown.

Holy Crap!
User avatar
Jack Rawlinson
Posts: 87
Joined: Wed Feb 24, 2010 6:48 pm
Contact:

Truly revolting piece by Andrew Brown.

Post by Jack Rawlinson » Thu Mar 11, 2010 11:18 am

Brown has sunk to a new low here: attempting to put some spin on the issue of Catholic child abuse on the grounds that hey, if you look at this one set of statistics in a certain way, priests are probably only about as abusive as other people.

He is starting to receive a well-deserved kicking in the comments, which is entertaining.

User avatar
virphen
Posts: 1451
Joined: Tue Feb 23, 2010 2:37 am
About me: "that fairy-fingering ass-raping space lizard"

One year own my home planet = 3 on earth.
Location: Orbit.

Re: Truly revolting piece by Andrew Brown.

Post by virphen » Thu Mar 11, 2010 11:26 am

:|~

Couldn't make it through to the end :/

devogue

Re: Truly revolting piece by Andrew Brown.

Post by devogue » Thu Mar 11, 2010 11:36 am

So why the concentration on Catholic priests and brothers?
Um, because they are meant to be holy. :ask:

User avatar
kiki5711
Forever with Ekwok
Posts: 3954
Joined: Fri Feb 12, 2010 11:51 am
Location: Atlanta, Georgia
Contact:

Re: Truly revolting piece by Andrew Brown.

Post by kiki5711 » Thu Mar 11, 2010 11:37 am

How can they compare themselves with the rest of the population? They're suppose to set a standard! :lay:

User avatar
Animavore
Nasty Hombre
Posts: 39276
Joined: Sun Mar 01, 2009 11:26 am
Location: Ire Land.
Contact:

Re: Truly revolting piece by Andrew Brown.

Post by Animavore » Thu Mar 11, 2010 11:45 am

What a nob. I mean it's not just that they abused children, if it were a case were any time a priest abused a child he was defrocked and arrested it would be a different matter, but it's the fact that they covered up right up to the higher levels of their establishment and kept the public and authorities quiet through bullying and threat of eternal damnation for years that is the main problem.
Libertarianism: The belief that out of all the terrible things governments can do, helping people is the absolute worst.

User avatar
ficklefiend
Posts: 761
Joined: Mon Mar 09, 2009 5:38 pm
Location: Aberdeen
Contact:

Re: Truly revolting piece by Andrew Brown.

Post by ficklefiend » Thu Mar 11, 2010 1:37 pm

And that they worked a system that placed them frequently in the care of vulnerable children, often living away from home or those without parents. A system that forced their silence through seriously fucking up their heads with guilt and fear. :x
Set phasers tae malky!
www.ficklefiend.deviantart.com

User avatar
RuleBritannia
Cupid is a cunt!
Posts: 1630
Joined: Mon Feb 22, 2010 9:55 pm
About me: About you
Location: The Machine
Contact:

Re: Truly revolting piece by Andrew Brown.

Post by RuleBritannia » Thu Mar 11, 2010 1:52 pm

I think this is the first of Andrew's blog posts that hasn't got single comment in support of it, and it's obvious why. :|~
RuleBritannia © MMXI

devogue

Re: Truly revolting piece by Andrew Brown.

Post by devogue » Thu Mar 11, 2010 2:00 pm

It reminds me of Father Ted saying:

"Sure Dougal, say there are 200 million priests in the world - if only 1% are paedophiles that's two mil-" :doh:

User avatar
Valden
Posts: 651
Joined: Mon Feb 22, 2010 11:12 pm
About me: Once upon a time...
Location: Peyton, Colorado, U.S
Contact:

Re: Truly revolting piece by Andrew Brown.

Post by Valden » Thu Mar 11, 2010 4:17 pm

Jack Rawlinson wrote:Brown has sunk to a new low here: attempting to put some spin on the issue of Catholic child abuse on the grounds that hey, if you look at this one set of statistics in a certain way, priests are probably only about as abusive as other people.

He is starting to receive a well-deserved kicking in the comments, which is entertaining.
May he eat shit and die. :mob:

User avatar
Jack Rawlinson
Posts: 87
Joined: Wed Feb 24, 2010 6:48 pm
Contact:

Re: Truly revolting piece by Andrew Brown.

Post by Jack Rawlinson » Thu Mar 11, 2010 7:11 pm

The Guardian immoderators are on hair-trigger mode over there. I haven't managed to get a comment to stick, even though I've tried to make fair criticism and use non-ad-homs. So, what the hell, I just called them a bunch of gutless fucksticks. Maybe that will last ten minutes. :D

Brown's pieces are essentially trolling, and The Guardian sanctions it to boost their hits. I'm getting extremely tired of it.

Edit: and now it seems any comments I make at The Guardian get sent for pre-moderation before publishing. Ah, good old Grauniad. Such a staunch defender of "liberalism". :roll:

User avatar
Pombolo
Posts: 33
Joined: Wed Feb 24, 2010 6:59 pm
About me: is a miasma of sun-faded hopes and sharply honed skepticism.
Location: Fife, Scotland
Contact:

Re: Truly revolting piece by Andrew Brown.

Post by Pombolo » Sun Mar 14, 2010 7:52 pm

kiki5711 wrote:How can they compare themselves with the rest of the population? They're suppose to set a standard! :lay:
Bingo. If they are truly walking in the footsteps of the divine, they should be morally ahead of the rest of us. If not, then, to use the words of Stephen Fry: "What are you for!"

User avatar
MartinHatter
Posts: 7
Joined: Wed Mar 03, 2010 9:11 pm
Location: Bristol, England
Contact:

Re: Truly revolting piece by Andrew Brown.

Post by MartinHatter » Mon Mar 15, 2010 5:10 pm

Andrew Brown claims that "objectively your child is less likely to be abused by a Catholic or Anglican priest in the west today than by the members of almost any other profession."

The problem with that claim is that no other profession, that I know of, is only open to men, expects celibacy from its members and has such a long-standing history of covering up abuse because of the damage that may be caused to the REPUTATION of the profession itself rather than the victims, or such trust from family members.

Colm O'Gorman's blog is required reading for people intersted in helping the true victims of these despicable acts:

http://colmogorman.com/

I suppose that the church will never be trusted again with so many children's lives is perhaps the only good thing to emerege from these recurring scandals.
http://blagley.blogspot.com

Other blogs are available...

User avatar
RuleBritannia
Cupid is a cunt!
Posts: 1630
Joined: Mon Feb 22, 2010 9:55 pm
About me: About you
Location: The Machine
Contact:

Re: Truly revolting piece by Andrew Brown.

Post by RuleBritannia » Mon Mar 15, 2010 5:16 pm

MartinHatter wrote:Andrew Brown claims that "objectively your child is less likely to be abused by a Catholic or Anglican priest in the west today than by the members of almost any other profession."

The problem with that claim is that no other profession, that I know of, is only open to men, expects celibacy from its members and has such a long-standing history of covering up abuse because of the damage that may be caused to the REPUTATION of the profession itself rather than the victims, or such trust from family members.

Colm O'Gorman's blog is required reading for people intersted in helping the true victims of these despicable acts:

http://colmogorman.com/

I suppose that the church will never be trusted again with so many children's lives is perhaps the only good thing to emerege from these recurring scandals.
Not to mention it's complete horseshit anyway, I don't remember the big stock broker sex scandal or the Tesco phedophilia ring, you might hear about a teacher once a year but no where near the amount of priests.

Oh and hello to a fellow Bristolian. :drunk:
RuleBritannia © MMXI

User avatar
MartinHatter
Posts: 7
Joined: Wed Mar 03, 2010 9:11 pm
Location: Bristol, England
Contact:

Re: Truly revolting piece by Andrew Brown.

Post by MartinHatter » Mon Mar 15, 2010 5:25 pm

Not to mention it's complete horseshit anyway, I don't remember the big stock broker sex scandal or the Tesco phedophilia ring, you might hear about a teacher once a year but no where near the amount of priests.

Oh and hello to a fellow Bristolian.
And hello from me too. :cheers:

No, I didn't mention that it's complete horseshit but then, when we're talking about christianity, that's a given :lol:
http://blagley.blogspot.com

Other blogs are available...

User avatar
Feck
.
.
Posts: 28391
Joined: Mon Mar 02, 2009 1:25 pm
Contact:

Re: Truly revolting piece by Andrew Brown.

Post by Feck » Mon Mar 15, 2010 5:40 pm

I just didn't understand the tone by the end .. Be thank-full that if your child gets abused it probably won't be by priest, they have stopped doing that now (honestly)WTF.
:hoverdog: :hoverdog: :hoverdog: :hoverdog:
Give me the wine , I don't need the bread

Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 6 guests