The Bad Hitchens on Evolution...

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The Bad Hitchens on Evolution...

Post by Clinton Huxley » Wed Mar 03, 2010 6:56 pm

Now look here, Britain is perfectly capable of producing total loons, an example of which I present here:-

I give you Mr Peter Hitchens:-
Why do they need to be so rude?

The arrogant rudeness of the materialists in any discussion of Darwinism is astonishing, and indicative of a lack of confidence in their case. One cannot even see anything wrong in equating Christianity, the foundation of our civilisation, and the reasoned basis on which man has sought to understand the universe, with Holocaust denial. Really, must we sink to this level? If people don't like Christianity, then let their objections to it at least be respectable ones. If one thing has convinced me that this controversy is worth pursuing, it has been the invariable discourtesy and pride of the dogmatic Darwinists, which reminds me so strongly of my own attitude and tactics in my Trotskyist days, when I was concealing my own doubts from myself by rudeness to critics who (I secretly knew) had a point.

If they would substitute patience for impatience, and civility for petulant and superior dismissal, they might learn something from their opponents. They should ask themselves whether their lack of manners is an attempt to defend themselves against any such danger.

The self-proclaimed 'Clear-Thinking' derides as 'weak' my alleged discussion of evolutionary biology. But I don't in fact discuss it. I never have. I am not qualified to do so and cheerfully recognise that. All I discuss is the much simpler question of certainty versus uncertainty. Even the most dogmatic evolutionists concede that they have no idea how the process they believe in began, and most sensible evolutionists realise that there are problems with the later stages of the theory which are not easily solved (hence such concepts as 'punctuated equilibrium' and 'saltation'). If, as I so often say, the theory were settled and proven by its predictive ability, then it would not have at least two contending schools of thought about how the process actually takes place. It doesn't take a biologist to see that there is room for thought here, space which Mr 'Thinking' seems anxious to fill with sneers. I refer him, as I have often referred the increasingly bilious Wesley Crosland, to the recent thoughts of the atheist philosopher Thomas Nagel on 'Intelligent Design'. Professor Nagel loves thought and dispute, and adheres to reason for its own sake, because he knows we're lost without it.
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Re: The Bad Hitchens on Evolution...

Post by cowiz » Wed Mar 03, 2010 6:58 pm

His brother should have given him more kickings when they were growing up
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Post by Rum » Wed Mar 03, 2010 7:05 pm

The debate between the two a couple of years ago was embarrassing. Christopher wiped the floor with his brother and made him look like a half wit...which I actually believe he is. :coffee:
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Re: The Bad Hitchens on Evolution...

Post by cowiz » Wed Mar 03, 2010 7:05 pm

Rum wrote:The debate between the two a couple of years ago was embarrassing. Peter wiped the floor with his brother and made him look like a half wit...which I actually believe he is. :coffee:
Don't you mean Chris wiped the floor with Peter?
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Re: The Bad Hitchens on Evolution...

Post by Rum » Wed Mar 03, 2010 7:06 pm

pawiz wrote:
Rum wrote:The debate between the two a couple of years ago was embarrassing. Peter wiped the floor with his brother and made him look like a half wit...which I actually believe he is. :coffee:
Don't you mean Chris wiped the floor with Peter?
yes I do - I have edited it. I am tired.....long day. :yawn:

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Re: The Bad Hitchens on Evolution...

Post by cowiz » Wed Mar 03, 2010 7:08 pm

Rum wrote:
pawiz wrote:
Rum wrote:The debate between the two a couple of years ago was embarrassing. Peter wiped the floor with his brother and made him look like a half wit...which I actually believe he is. :coffee:
Don't you mean Chris wiped the floor with Peter?
yes I do - I have edited it. I am tired.....long day. :yawn:
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Re: The Bad Hitchens on Evolution...

Post by Rum » Wed Mar 03, 2010 7:08 pm

Might as well post the Youtube cos you lazy twats won't be arsed. Posting a link cos there are loads of parts. Its worth watching.

http://www.youtube.com/watch#playnext=1 ... 4eT0fFcqEs
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Post by Animavore » Wed Mar 03, 2010 7:09 pm

Rum wrote:
pawiz wrote:
Rum wrote:The debate between the two a couple of years ago was embarrassing. Peter wiped the floor with his brother and made him look like a half wit...which I actually believe he is. :coffee:
Don't you mean Chris wiped the floor with Peter?
yes I do - I have edited it. I am tired.....long day. :yawn:
Oh phew. I was just about to come down on you like a ton of bricks there.

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Post by RuleBritannia » Wed Mar 03, 2010 7:11 pm

I HATE the word "evolutionist(s)", it needs to be erased from peoples vocabulary.
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Post by ficklefiend » Wed Mar 03, 2010 7:24 pm

Ah, the evil twin.

They should keep him chained in the attic where he belongs.
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Post by AshtonBlack » Wed Mar 03, 2010 7:37 pm

ficklefiend wrote:Ah, the evil twin.

They should keep him chained in the attic where he belongs.
All he needs now a goatee and he IS the evil twin.

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Post by Hyrax » Wed Mar 03, 2010 10:19 pm

Reminds me of Dinesh D'souza rebuking Dawkins for commenting on subjects (ie. theology/philosophy) in which he is not an authority and then going on to claim that Christian metaphysics is the basis for all science. As you may have guessed, Dinesh is not a scientist :what:
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Post by Horwood Beer-Master » Thu Mar 04, 2010 2:43 pm

pawiz wrote:His brother should have given him more buggerings when they were at boarding school.
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Post by Gareth1984 » Thu Mar 04, 2010 6:44 pm

What the fuck is Peter talking about when he brings up people equating christianity with holocaust denial the only time I recall anyone doing any sort of comparison was when Dawkins compared holocaust denail to evolution denial, however Dawkins did not equate Christianty to holocaust denial and the comparison was in regards to the fact that both positions deny reality, rather than comparing the behaviour of creationists to holocaust deniers. The article is full of other such similar straw man.

I also find it funny how he says that he doesn't discuss evolution as he isn't qualified only to then discuss evolution in the next couple of sentances. He also makes the fallacious argument that because scientists are still debating some aspects of evolution that there must be problems with the theory as an whole.
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Post by lofuji » Mon Mar 08, 2010 12:55 am

Clinton Huxley wrote:Now look here, Britain is perfectly capable of producing total loons, an example of which I present here:-

I give you Mr Peter Hitchens
He may be a "total loon", but the real problem is that he almost certainly has a large following, given that he writes for the Mail on Sunday, which, together with its sister paper the Daily Mail, is the main refuge for members of the Loony Right in the UK. Whether it's sex education, asylum seekers, illegal drugs or any number of other issues, he writes what his audience wants to read/hear. I know quite a few Mail readers, and they all spout the same sort of opinions as this cretin, which makes him dangerous.
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