Apology from Richard Dawkins (Yes Really).

[Heresiarch]

Richard wouldn't do that. He's too fearful/paranoid/protective/prudent of dear RDFRS to endorse publicly a place where people have bondage and visible bumcracks in their avatars, and people talk about other members saving RD.net with a blowjob.

You forget that not everyone wants to see images of bondage and bumcracks

There are probably people out there who don't like cheese too. There are probably even some people who don't like cheese, images of bondage and images of bumcracks.

[Elessarina]

I suspect they're in the grave minority.

It's generally the opposite. You don't usually see pictures like that everywhere and I am not sure what the age minimum is for using RDF.. is there one? is it 13?

[lordpasternack]

Tell me, do you usually swallow?

I swallow several times in any ordinary given day...

[Valden]

Lol for fucks sake, I'm having a pissing match with someone over the verbal abuse Josh has gotten from here on PZ's blog.

http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2010 ... _whole.php

Something tells me he's a Fluffy (someone who's extremely politically correct and thinks any naughty language is automatically bad and exaggerates it to make it sound worse then what it really is.)

[Reverend Blair]

I dunno...reminds me a lot of the apologies politicians issue when they their poll numbers suddenly plummet over some issue they've made a serious gaffe on.

[Tigger]

Tell me, do you usually swallow?

I swallow several times in any ordinary given day...

It's that water bottle. I should have taken it off you.

[Ayaan]

I suspect they're in the grave minority.

It's generally the opposite. You don't usually see pictures like that everywhere and I am not sure what the age minimum is for using RDF.. is there one? is it 13?

The youngest person I recall was 13 - of course not everyone put their age or mentioned it in their posts. When we knew we had a poster who was a minor, we did try to keep an eye on them - not because we thought they would be disruptive, but to protect them as best we could. Children don't always think of the consequences of posting very personal info online.

[klr]

Inevitably ...

I dunno...reminds me a lot of the apologies politicians issue when they their poll numbers suddenly plummet over some issue they've made a serious gaffe on.

As these things go, I think he was a hell of a lot more forthcoming and candid than your average politician.

[eXcommunicate]

For some reason I feel too embarrassed to read it.

[klr]

For some reason I feel too embarrassed to read it.

Show some guts man. It's lucky for you Clinton Huxley isn't on-line right now.

[eXcommunicate]

For some reason I feel too embarrassed to read it.

Show some guts man. It's lucky for you Clinton Huxley isn't on-line right now.

Wut?

I read the bloody thing, but it's an embarrassment that it had to come to this. For all parties.

[klr]

For some reason I feel too embarrassed to read it.

Show some guts man. It's lucky for you Clinton Huxley isn't on-line right now.

Wut?

I read the bloody thing, but it's an embarrassment that it had to come to this.

True. Ultimately, it has nothing to do with RD's overreaction in the "Outrage" piece. The root causes are much deeper and more fundamental. I hope he's finally waking up to those.

[Reverend Blair]

As these things go, I think he was a hell of a lot more forthcoming and candid than your average politician.

Well, we'll have to disagree on that.

I accept the apology and I'm glad he did it, but much of the trust and respect that used to be there has been lost for me. That kind of thing takes a long time to rebuild.

[klr]

As these things go, I think he was a hell of a lot more forthcoming and candid than your average politician.

Well, we'll have to disagree on that.

I accept the apology and I'm glad he did it, but much of the trust and respect that used to be there has been lost for me. That kind of thing takes a long time to rebuild.

You must have a better class of politician over there, that's all I can say. Seriously.

[Harmless Eccentric]

Yes, it would be fun if he told us exactly what he said to Josh in private about his fucking-up of this transition.

But that isn't what a good leader would do. A good leader would rake him over the coals privately, then publicly take responsibility himself for what was done in his name and under his instructions. Dawkins did B. I think there's a fair chance that he did A as well, and that he and Josh had a long serious conversation which we will never hear.

It sounds like Dawkins made time to read what people have been saying- and it sounds like he's read the threads here, as well. Truly, if he wants to take his web site in a different direction, I have no real problem with that. All I really wanted was some evidence that he understood what had happened and had thought about it in a serious way, which it seems like he has now done.

I don't know whether I'll use the new rdnet or not. How could I know? I haven't seen it yet. But I'm considerably less pissed-off at Dawkins (though not necessarily at Josh) than I was yesterday.