response to emerging independent science on the 9/11 attacks

[Ameri Boi]

The Klingons did it.

The Romulans orchestrated it with use of Klingon aides

[cursuswalker]

While we're about it, what about the Dambusters and their so-called "bouncing" bomb"??

In the past year, in response to emerging independent science on the Dambusters raid, nine corporate, seven public, and two independent media outlets aired analytic programs investigating the official account.

Increasingly, the issue is treated as a scientific controversy worthy of debate, rather than as a "conspiracy theory" ignoring science and common sense.

This essay presents these media analyses in the form of 18 case studies.

Eight countries – Britain , Canada , Denmark , France , the Netherlands , New Zealand , Norway and Russia – have allowed their publicly-owned broadcasting stations to air the full spectrum of evidence challenging the truth of the official account of the Dambusters.

This more open approach taken in the international media – I could also have included the Japanese media – might be a sign that worldwide public and corporate media organizations are positioning themselves, and preparing their audiences, for a possible revelation of the truth of the claim that forces within Nazi Germany were complicit in the attacks – a revelation that would call into question the publicly given rationale for the military operations in Europe and the Far East.

The evidence now being explored in the international media may pave the way for the UK media to take an in-depth look at the implications of what is now known about the Dambusters, and to re-examine the country's foreign and domestic policies in the light of this knowledge.

[JimC]

OooooKaayyy

Could have sworn I saw at least one plane flying into a tower.

Of course you SAW them, everyone SAW them... but they weren't really there. Or at least, they weren't really PLANES. They were actually super-advanced holograms programmed to coincide with the first round of explosives the Reptilian Overlords used for the controlled demolition of the World Trade Center.

You fell for that? The Towers were never destroyed, they're still there.......

No no no! In actual fact they were never there in the FIRST place!

Good Lord! I bet our Reptilian Overlords aren't even Reptiles! Could they be.....Amphibian UnderLords?!?

Dammit do you have to give away all our secrets!

(and it's only treefrogs, BTW - toads are too fucking dumb, and salamanders still have that stupid bloody tail...)

[Thumpalumpacus]

The evidence now being explored in the international media may pave the way for the US media to take an in-depth look at the implications of what is now known about 9/11, and to re-examine the country's foreign and domestic policies in the light of this knowledge.

Might you do us a favor and enumerate some of this "evidence"?

Brings to mind a childhood joke:

"How do you keep a jackass in suspense?"
"I dunno, how?"
"I'll tell you tomorrow."

[Conny]

There are two topics I consider too stupid to discuss;

1. Creationism
2. 9/11 conspiracies.

Then don't, just bloody stay out of it. Others might want to.

as to #1. That has been pretty much established with enough evidence that it is a false idea.
and time ( and main stream coverage ) will tell as to #2

[NineOneFour]

a long but worth while analysis: The Truth About 9/11
by Elizabeth Woodworth
in Countercurrents.org http://countercurrents.org/woodworth250210.htm25 February, 2010

Abstract

In the past year, in response to emerging independent science on the 9/11 attacks, nine corporate, seven public, and two independent media outlets aired analytic programs investigating the official account.

Increasingly, the issue is treated as a scientific controversy worthy of debate, rather than as a "conspiracy theory" ignoring science and common sense.

This essay presents these media analyses in the form of 18 case studies.

Eight countries – Britain , Canada , Denmark , France , the Netherlands , New Zealand , Norway and Russia – have allowed their publicly-owned broadcasting stations to air the full spectrum of evidence challenging the truth of the official account of 9/11.

This more open approach taken in the international media – I could also have included the Japanese media – might be a sign that worldwide public and corporate media organizations are positioning themselves, and preparing their audiences, for a possible revelation of the truth of the claim that forces within the US government were complicit in the attacks – a revelation that would call into question the publicly given rationale for the military operations in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Pakistan.

The evidence now being explored in the international media may pave the way for the US media to take an in-depth look at the implications of what is now known about 9/11, and to re-examine the country's foreign and domestic policies in the light of this knowledge.

Utter bullshit. You are crediting the American government with competence. That right there tells me you are wrong.

[NineOneFour]

There are two topics I consider too stupid to discuss;

1. Creationism
2. 9/11 conspiracies.

Seconded.

[NineOneFour]

There are two topics I consider too stupid to discuss;

1. Creationism
2. 9/11 conspiracies.

Then don't, just bloody stay out of it. Others might want to.

as to #1. That has been pretty much established with enough evidence that it is a false idea.
and time ( and main stream coverage ) will tell as to #2

No, actually reason tells us #2 is a stupid idea.

[Conny]

Utter bullshit. You are crediting the American government with competence. That right there tells me you are wrong.

No, I am not crediting anyone with anything. Wrong assumption.
And if an inside job, not by "the" American government but by other nefarious businessmen, planning a false flag event in order to get the USAgovernment involved. A good way to up their armament sales and getting a hold of the opium drug trade.

Have you followed the money trail?
There is plenty pointing to this. Follow the money trail.

[tattuchu]

So let's leave out the "conspiracy theory" terminology for a moment; that's just inflammatory and shuts down inquiry. What I'd like to know is, what exactly is being discussed here? What is being proposed? That the 9/11 attacks were perpetrated or orchestrated by our own government, or that it was somehow an inside job, as opposed to an attack by foreign radicals? Hmmm, I don't know. I mean, there's a lot of fishy shit about the events of that day, but it doesn't seem logical to me that it could be planned to provide a convenient rationale to invade Iraq. Al Qaeda/Osama bin Laden took credit for the attacks, right? And we didn't take issue with that. But we all know that Al Qaeda and Iraq are unrelated, so how does one lead to the other? Bush had a hell of a time convincing people there was a connection at the time, but nobody believes that to be the truth now. We know Bush wanted to invade Iraq from the start. But if he wanted to provide a rationale for it, the 9/11 attacks would have been a very poor way to go about it.

[Virus]

Once you go down the dark path of conspiracy, you'll never be satisfied. No matter what real investigations and commissions say, no matter how many times Al-Qaeda admit to it, you'll just think it's part of the cover up. You'll spend the rest of your life chasing a phantom. Just give it up man.

Everyone else; don't encourage him. The more you debate him, the more he thinks there's something to debate.

[NineOneFour]

Utter bullshit. You are crediting the American government with competence. That right there tells me you are wrong.

No, I am not crediting anyone with anything. Wrong assumption.
And if an inside job, not by "the" American government but by other nefarious businessmen, planning a false flag event in order to get the USAgovernment involved. A good way to up their armament sales and getting a hold of the opium drug trade.

Have you followed the money trail?
There is plenty pointing to this. Follow the money trail.

Ludicrous. I'll be the first to point the finger at corporate douchebags, but this was Al Qaeda, pure and simple.

You'd be better off spending your time doing something else.

Actually, scratch that, you'd be better off spending your time doing ANYTHING else.

[Conny]

Ludicrous. I'll be the first to point the finger at corporate douchebags, but this was Al Qaeda, pure and simple.

Have you read how the "AlQaeda" got started , how it was funded? BBC had a special doc on that. An eye opener.

You'd be better off spending your time doing something else.

Actually, scratch that, you'd be better off spending your time doing ANYTHING else.

First of all, stop telling me what to do.
If you prefer to live in ignorance, go ahead, but I will and i have, read enough, researched plenty and interviewed enough people to know better.

[Rum]

Utter tosh. Nuff said. Shut up please and say no more..or say it somewhere else.

[NineOneFour]

Ludicrous. I'll be the first to point the finger at corporate douchebags, but this was Al Qaeda, pure and simple.

Have you read how the "AlQaeda" got started , how it was funded? BBC had a special doc on that. An eye opener.

They were funded by the CIA and American Defense Department. Tell me something I don't know.

You'd be better off spending your time doing something else.

Actually, scratch that, you'd be better off spending your time doing ANYTHING else.

First of all, stop telling me what to do.
If you prefer to live in ignorance, go ahead, but I will and i have, read enough, researched plenty and interviewed enough people to know better.

Uh, huh. I'm pretty sure I'm not the one living in ignorance...